Edgecrusher
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Re: Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
Me and you are on the same page as to what a 59/C neck pickup should be.
Me and you are on the same page as to what a 59/C neck pickup should be.
Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
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Re: Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
Suhr pickups. Easy to do a direct comparison because the DS pickups are exactly the same as the SS pickups, just with a double row of screws instead of the usual arrangement. I've tried the SSV and DSV neck, SSV and DSV bridge and SSV+ and DSV+ bridge and it all cases I've preferred the SS versions. They seems to have a sharper attack and more "attitude". I'm also one of those people who can hear a difference between covered and uncovered humbuckers (and prefers uncovered), for whatever it's worth. And also, I just like the look of screws and slugs much more than the double screw look
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Austin
Suhr pickups. Easy to do a direct comparison because the DS pickups are exactly the same as the SS pickups, just with a double row of screws instead of the usual arrangement. I've tried the SSV and DSV neck, SSV and DSV bridge and SSV+ and DSV+ bridge and it all cases I've preferred the SS versions. They seems to have a sharper attack and more "attitude". I'm also one of those people who can hear a difference between covered and uncovered humbuckers (and prefers uncovered), for whatever it's worth. And also, I just like the look of screws and slugs much more than the double screw look
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LtKojak
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Re: Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
There are only three Perpetual Burn p'ups for sale in Italy, all in Internet shops, so I doubt they're even here.
Frank, is the PB wound with AWG 42 or AWG 43 wire?
Inquiring minds would like to know. :cool2:
There are only three Perpetual Burn p'ups for sale in Italy, all in Internet shops, so I doubt they're even here.
Frank, is the PB wound with AWG 42 or AWG 43 wire?
Inquiring minds would like to know. :cool2:
dominus
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Re: Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
Man, you're on the wrong forum.
I think that was one of the things Kojak is pushing for. The Fuglybucker ended up being a set. I think he wants to come up with a neck pickup that would match the 59/C, and a new bridge pickup that would also work with the new neck pickup. (Since there's no neck pickup match for the Custom, people would often pair it with the 59 or Jazz, even though there's 59 sets and the JB/Jazz set.) For people that just want a new neck pickup, it works, and there's a new bridge pickup for people that may want to try that. Then there's a new set as well. Might interest more people that way.
Man, you're on the wrong forum.
I think that was one of the things Kojak is pushing for. The Fuglybucker ended up being a set. I think he wants to come up with a neck pickup that would match the 59/C, and a new bridge pickup that would also work with the new neck pickup. (Since there's no neck pickup match for the Custom, people would often pair it with the 59 or Jazz, even though there's 59 sets and the JB/Jazz set.) For people that just want a new neck pickup, it works, and there's a new bridge pickup for people that may want to try that. Then there's a new set as well. Might interest more people that way.
LtKojak
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Re: Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
Erm... I ve said "twelve screws", NOT specifically all filister.
jtougas
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Re: Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
Burning Pearl? Perpetual Pearl? Burning Gates (Perpetual Burning Gates is too long, Marketing will nix it...)
Burning Pearl? Perpetual Pearl? Burning Gates (Perpetual Burning Gates is too long, Marketing will nix it...)
Falloffthebonetone
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Re: Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
We could even do bass side hex and treble side fili too, or even the other way around. Maybe even harken back to the Z idea where we have 3 fili and 3 hex each side and,each coil has it reversed, similar to how the Wide Range works but that slugs and filisters. We can even let the Custom Shop decide which set of screws sounds the best or closest to the tone we are asking for.
We could even do bass side hex and treble side fili too, or even the other way around. Maybe even harken back to the Z idea where we have 3 fili and 3 hex each side and,each coil has it reversed, similar to how the Wide Range works but that slugs and filisters. We can even let the Custom Shop decide which set of screws sounds the best or closest to the tone we are asking for.
frankfalbo
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Re: Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
Perpetual Burn development did not begin until after I'd left the company. So I am not speaking as a former employee confirming the spec, nor have I taken one apart as a consumer for measurement. Based on what I know about wire and bobbin size, you can not fit that amount of 42 regardless of the insulation thickness. I believe it's 43, like an underwound Custom coil, or overwound Demon coil. You can see in photos that it's not Plain Enamel. It has the color of a Poly wire. Some photos make it appear more reddish which can mean thicker build coating, but you can order the red tint or clear in single build or heavy build.
Point is, assuming the Perpetual Burn is not a hybrid (which has never been discussed as far as I know) you'd be getting a ~6k 43AWG Poly coil up against the fretboard and a good PAF coil (PAF's are 42 Plain Enamel for those that don't know) in the slug position. It's pretty much THE taylor made 59/C hybrid neck recipe, if you were looking for similar deltas.
The A2 recommendation is simply an opinion. You guys can do what you want. But I think it'll be the right mix for the neck to balance with the bridge. There's no rule that says neck/bridge sets have to both be A5 or both A2.
The "Burning Gates" would excel in both 24 and 22 fret guitars. You guys would probably love it.
This would be "educated speculation"
Perpetual Burn development did not begin until after I'd left the company. So I am not speaking as a former employee confirming the spec, nor have I taken one apart as a consumer for measurement. Based on what I know about wire and bobbin size, you can not fit that amount of 42 regardless of the insulation thickness. I believe it's 43, like an underwound Custom coil, or overwound Demon coil. You can see in photos that it's not Plain Enamel. It has the color of a Poly wire. Some photos make it appear more reddish which can mean thicker build coating, but you can order the red tint or clear in single build or heavy build.
Point is, assuming the Perpetual Burn is not a hybrid (which has never been discussed as far as I know) you'd be getting a ~6k 43AWG Poly coil up against the fretboard and a good PAF coil (PAF's are 42 Plain Enamel for those that don't know) in the slug position. It's pretty much THE taylor made 59/C hybrid neck recipe, if you were looking for similar deltas.
The A2 recommendation is simply an opinion. You guys can do what you want. But I think it'll be the right mix for the neck to balance with the bridge. There's no rule that says neck/bridge sets have to both be A5 or both A2.
The "Burning Gates" would excel in both 24 and 22 fret guitars. You guys would probably love it.
Falloffthebonetone
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Re: Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
Burning Gates is now sealed. Same with Demon Lover.
Burning Gates is now sealed. Same with Demon Lover.
LtKojak
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Re: Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
Thank you for the insight, Frank. The idea of an underwound Custom coil is great! Or an overwound Demon coil, if we decide to go the hexhead screw route... which is looking better by the minute, if you ask me.
GilmourD
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Re: Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
LOL
Isn't that basically what I said? :chairfall
LOL
Demanic
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GilmourD
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Re: Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
As said above, if this is going to be a match for the 59/C hybrid, wouldn't that dictate that it would have the same slug/screw setup, since that does affect tone and as such would have the same characteristics?
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As said above, if this is going to be a match for the 59/C hybrid, wouldn't that dictate that it would have the same slug/screw setup, since that does affect tone and as such would have the same characteristics?
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Masta' C
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Re: Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
Shhhh....quiet you and your logical deductions. They have no place in a forum designed pickup.
This is going to turn into a Screamin' Demon/Fuglybucker hybrid with half an A9 and half an A3, staggered slug/hex poles and only available in bright pink!
Shhhh....quiet you and your logical deductions. They have no place in a forum designed pickup.
This is going to turn into a Screamin' Demon/Fuglybucker hybrid with half an A9 and half an A3, staggered slug/hex poles and only available in bright pink!
DreX
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Re: Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
IMO you need to get this sorted out:
Some people are advocating a "neck '59/Custom", and some people are apparently throwing that out the window in favor of completely different hybrid. If the pickup is to be a "neck '59/Custom", then there shouldn't be much to discuss, that would all best be left to the Custom Shop since they must have extensive experience in simply making neck compliments to to bridge pickups and vice versa. Changing the slug/screw config, deciding on the magnet type etc. would make their job harder, maybe even impossible.
IMO you need to get this sorted out:
Some people are advocating a "neck '59/Custom", and some people are apparently throwing that out the window in favor of completely different hybrid. If the pickup is to be a "neck '59/Custom", then there shouldn't be much to discuss, that would all best be left to the Custom Shop since they must have extensive experience in simply making neck compliments to to bridge pickups and vice versa. Changing the slug/screw config, deciding on the magnet type etc. would make their job harder, maybe even impossible.
Edgecrusher
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Re: Forum p'up v. 2.0: aka "Hy-Bro" 2015
I agree... If this is suppose to be a 59/C neck there is not really anything to discuss. We shouldnt be chasing circles around double screws as it makes no sense for a 59/c neck
I agree... If this is suppose to be a 59/C neck there is not really anything to discuss. We shouldnt be chasing circles around double screws as it makes no sense for a 59/c neck
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