Full Shred/Jazz vs 81/60

[neosadist]

Re: Full Shred/Jazz vs 81/60

Do you primarily shred, or play metal? I'd say look at both. The thing about active pickups that I'd not appreciate is having to change batteries. But it's up to your preference. Notice that Metallica use the EMG active set, while Dave Mustain uses the JB/Jazz combo, while most other ESP models come with the '59/JB combo. I say just pick a theme or sound and go with it.

 

[SpiderVenom]

Re: Full Shred/Jazz vs 81/60

Do you primarily shred, or play metal? I'd say look at both. The thing about active pickups that I'd not appreciate is having to change batteries. But it's up to your preference. Notice that Metallica use the EMG active set, while Dave Mustain uses the JB/Jazz combo, while most other ESP models come with the '59/JB combo. I say just pick a theme or sound and go with it.

About 50/50 (shred/metal rhythm). Half the problem is that there's almost too much to choose from. I probably prefer Metallica rhythm, although in Rust in Peace the lead tone sounds better to me. The Full Shred seems very nice, but maybe would lack a little bass. I have a while to decide, but I like to have decisions made in advance :laugh2:

Edit: The reason they cost a lot more for me is that most of my parts are coming from Warmoth, but the EMGs have to come elsewhere, which means a separate shipping bill.

Edit 2: Eureka! After listening to some songs again, I know what sound I'm after. For rhythm, Metallica's The Thing That Should Not Be. For lead, the tone used on the main solo in Megadeth's The Punishment Due. I know I'll never get the exact tone, but those are the basic sounds I'm after.

Edit 3: Yet another thought. Whatever I get, it has to do a basic rock tone too, for playing at my church. I guess the 60 would cover that.

 

[neosadist]

Re: Full Shred/Jazz vs 81/60

Edit 3: Yet another thought. Whatever I get, it has to do a basic rock tone too, for playing at my church. I guess the 60 would cover that.

Cool, I play at church too, although mostly I need versatility more than shred sound. I just run my ESP LTD EC-100QM through a Boss ME50 and I get what I need. We have more of a "vineyard" sound here. Anyways, I'd say Jazz/JB, or '59/JB, like the ESP models with Seymour Duncan pickups. I've never seen a church where there's continuous shred music going on. Nothing wrong with that, just giving my experience. I guess it's all up to what you play. But at least for once I've met a church guitarist in here! Even then, to be honest, you can run effects "just right" to cover most "shred" styles adequately, if you play them in church. Unless you're always playing that stuff in church, like a dedicated church metal band, I'd say go with versatility, consider having a separate guitar for church, etc. Just me.

 

[SpiderVenom]

Re: Full Shred/Jazz vs 81/60

Cool, I play at church too, although mostly I need versatility more than shred sound. I just run my ESP LTD EC-100QM through a Boss ME50 and I get what I need. We have more of a "vineyard" sound here. Anyways, I'd say Jazz/JB, or '59/JB, like the ESP models with Seymour Duncan pickups. I've never seen a church where there's continuous shred music going on. Nothing wrong with that, just giving my experience. I guess it's all up to what you play. But at least for once I've met a church guitarist in here! Even then, to be honest, you can run effects "just right" to cover most "shred" styles adequately, if you play them in church. Unless you're always playing that stuff in church, like a dedicated church metal band, I'd say go with versatility, consider having a separate guitar for church, etc. Just me.

Our church has used quite a few different tones. Currently it's a kind of brightish rock sound, but I think the volume could do with a boost (in relation to the other instruments). Not really much shredding goes on, but there are a lot of lead fills wound into the music. I myself don't play onstage yet (not from lack of ability :laugh2: ), but simply because my current guitar is awful.

 

[neosadist]

Re: Full Shred/Jazz vs 81/60

Our church has used quite a few different tones. Currently it's a kind of brightish rock sound, but I think the volume could do with a boost (in relation to the other instruments). Not really much shredding goes on, but there are a lot of lead fills wound into the music. I myself don't play onstage yet (not from lack of ability :laugh2: ), but simply because my current guitar awful.

Yeah I've noticed that a lot of "lead" guitar in church music is more effects than anything. Not like I want to shred, I'm actually straying away from that side of things until later.