George L Cable...the best???

[Mincer]

It is *always* at a gig when you find out they don't work (this goes for regular cables, too).

On pedalboards, make sure the pedals are far enough apart that you can unplug them and bypass a pedal if you are between sets without ripping the pedalboard apart.

 

[NegativeEase]

Im doing the technical testing side of this subject with a You Tuber you all know.

I will let you know when it comes out -Probably Winter is when we will get to it -but it will cover all the usual suspects measured scientifically and then blind tests with some well known ears.

 

[beaubrummels]

I'm very interested in this. Seems like there's lots of snake oil in the marketing out there. Would be nice to have some concrete facts.

 

[esandes]

So basically, you got nothin'. You just read it on the internet. Got it. Good to know. Good luck with those Evidence cables. I'm sure as cables they work just fine. The directional business is just "giving you the business."

Ignore list +1. you have nothin' that I need.

 

[ehdwuld]

Im doing the technical testing side of this subject with a You Tuber you all know.

I will let you know when it comes out -Probably Winter is when we will get to it -but it will cover all the usual suspects measured scientifically and then blind tests with some well known ears.

do you work at Andertons? with Rob and Pete?

 

[NegativeEase]

do you work at Andertons? with Rob and Pete?

No sir! I dont do You Tube videos regularly at all -Im helping conceptualize and perform tests on a couple developing episodes for others

 

[Powdered Toast Man]

It's hilarious to me that guitarists will sneer at things like quick connect clips inside of amps - instead demanding all hand wired construction with soldered eyelet boards. And they'll also want to make sure every connection inside their guitar is soldered and secure. But for your pedal patch cables? Get that nasty tone sucking solder out of here! I want my signal entirely reliant on friction screw down connection!

 

[NegativeEase]

It's hilarious to me that guitarists will sneer at things like quick connect clips inside of amps - instead demanding all hand wired construction with soldered eyelet boards. And they'll also want to make sure every connection inside their guitar is soldered and secure. But for your pedal patch cables? Get that nasty tone sucking solder out of here! I want my signal entirely reliant on friction screw down connection!

So it's interesting you mention this, as Solder is not a mechanical connection metal to metal of course -its a transitional substrate making a connection between the 2 conductors. High end mechanical connections are actually better if they are certain standard (Wire Wrap on a post being the best, with Punch down somewhere behind) and a mechanical connection then soldered is likely the best overall. My criticism of mechanical connections like screw downs you see in guitar patch systems is the they are tension based in one vector (unlike a wire wrap system or punch down) and much like a Molex capture will fail overtime without a secondary system or maintenence. So if your up for retensioning and checking on occasion -they make a great option -and Im sure they are getting better all of the time.

-me personally, I'm not doing anything for a live show where there isnt an element of mechanical connection and solder so I dont have to think about it.

 

[Artie]

My main cable is George L. But I solder. I don't trust plug-'n-play.

 

[beaubrummels]

So it's interesting you mention this, as Solder is not a mechanical connection metal to metal of course -its a transitional substrate making a connection between the 2 conductors. High end mechanical connections are actually better if they are certain standard (Wire Wrap on a post being the best, with Punch down somewhere behind) and a mechanical connection then soldered is likely the best overall. My criticism of mechanical connections like screw downs you see in guitar patch systems is the they are tension based in one vector (unlike a wire wrap system or punch down) and much like a Molex capture will fail overtime without a secondary system or maintenence. So if your up for retensioning and checking on occasion -they make a great option -and Im sure they are getting better all of the time.

-me personally, I'm not doing anything for a live show where there isnt an element of mechanical connection and solder so I dont have to think about it.

With punch down you got me thinking, not about patch cables, but quick wiring inside my guitars. A punch down strip would be smaller (at least in height) and faster to use than the Liberator-style screw terminal strips I've used in the past.

 

[ehdwuld]

My main cable is George L. But I solder. I don't trust plug-'n-play.

You solder the George L ?
Can we get a bit more detail?

 

[Artie]

You solder the George L ?
Can we get a bit more detail?

I bought the unterminated George L cable, but used either Switchcraft or Neutrik ends, which I solder normally.

 

[ehdwuld]

That sounds way better than what i had imagined

 

[Artie]

One of the problems I have with calling any audio cable directional, is that AC itself is not directional. The electrons don't flow in any direction. They vibrate back and forth at whatever the current frequency is at the moment.

 

[NegativeEase]

One of the problems I have with calling any audio cable directional, is that AC itself is not directional. The electrons don't flow in any direction. They vibrate back and forth at whatever the current frequency is at the moment.

Directional cables are just shield lifted at one end -no big deal.

 

[Artie]

Directional cables are just shield lifted at one end -no big deal.

I get that. But I think there are some "audio" people who don't. :smokin: