Gibson Guitars Prices

[twoheadedboy]

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It's quite true. As long as people are willing to pay for the prestige of Gibson, they will continue to rape consumers. If people stopped paying for the prestige of Gibson, Gibson would be forced to accomidate to meet the decreased demand. The problem is that it would take a really long time for Gibson to suffer enough to lower it's prices.

 

[Scott_F]

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Different strokes for different folks, The fact of the matter is, some of the Asian Les Pauls are built better than the new Gibson guitars being made today, for a lot less money. I am glad that you have that much money to spend on new Gibsons Scott.

Hey, when I'm posing in front of my dog and the mirror, only a *real Gibson* will do! Haha! :laugh2:


Oh and someone please point me to an Asian Les Paul that sounds as good, uses same or better materials and has as good of workmanship as any of my three, one of which was just recently made. I want to see and play one myself.

 

[casblah]

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I think the gloves are off...

 

[Scott_F]

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Just for kicks, I'll add this.

If I was on a budget and I wanted to grab a bit of great humbucker tone, I'd buy another Godin. I was and still am shocked at how much guitar you can get for the money. US and Canadian made to boot. Funky shape. If you can deal with the slightly warped Les Paul shape, you'll have a serious guitar that you don't have to change a thing on. (I'm referring to the P90 version that comes with Duncans, not sure what pups come on the regular LG's)

 

[Scott_F]

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I think the gloves are off...

Not at all, it's all in the best of spirits. If they are out there, I sincerely want to try one.

I think Heritage does it the best when it comes to copying Gibson, but they should be good at it, right? That being said, their quality is about the same as what is coming out of the Gibson Custom Shop. But, you can't buy 3 Heritages for the price of a Gibson.

I have played some excellent Asian guitars, no doubt. I'm not knocking them. That Japanese ESP strat I had was top notch stuff. I hear marvelous things about Tokai's, but have never had a chance to play one. I looked at the Michael kelly stuff at NAMM this year and some of it was excellent workmanship, some of them had fret ends that could cut your fingers.

I'm not really trying to knock anyone's choice in any guitar made on this planet. I used to be a pretty strong Anti-Gibson person, mostly because the only ones I ever played were at GC or Mars. They were so beaten up, maladjusted, nasty strings, you name it. I thought the same as many of you expressing here. Not worth a third of what they were asking.

Then I got my hands on a brand spankin' new one. My paws were the first to touch it. Fresh strings. Good set up. It was then, and only then, that the reality of it all hit me. Shame of the mass retailers for letting their showroom stock get in that shape.

Funny with all the mess Gibson is making for the small dealers, they are so screwing themselves. Those small dealers are the only ones that still care enough to present the product properly. Now, they are all getting cut off at the knees. It's enough to make me not want to buy a new one ever again. (seriously) But that has nothing to do with workmanship and tone.

It's all good fellas. Y'all all play better than I do anyway. I certainly will never make a dime off of music. I'm just a hobbyist with expensive tastes. But man, deep down where it counts, when I hit a chord on one of my Les Pauls, rumbling out of this Two Rock amp, I get a hit of endorphins or something. No other combination does this for me. But that's just me. And I have tried to find some less expensive alternatives to the Les Paul, but no endorphin rush when I play them.

What's a huge hit of endorphins worth to you? At my age, I'll take them where ever I can get them! :dance:

 

[Stratcat]

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Hey, when I'm posing in front of my dog and the mirror, only a *real Gibson* will do! Haha! :laugh2:


Oh and someone please point me to an Asian Les Paul that sounds as good, uses same or better materials and has as good of workmanship as any of my three, one of which was just recently made. I want to see and play one myself.

God bless you my friend. :smoker:

 

[Guitarist]

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If I can remember correctly, we already had this discussion and the overwhelming conclusion was something like, "**** Gibson."

 

[Stratcat]

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If I can remember correctly, we already had this discussion and the overwhelming conclusion was something like, "**** Gibson."

You are correct. :smoker:

 

[Quencho092]

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I've got three Historic Reissue Les Pauls right now. I'mmaking up for your boycott.

I've yet to play any guitar, I mean ANY guitar, including my much beloved old PRS McCarty that I sold to T4D, that stacks up to any of my Reissues. I wanted the PRS to be a Gibson in tone and it's not. So I sold it and bougth more Gibsons.

When you find that tone that tickles you inside, you hang onto it. For me, it's nothing but a Les Paul these days.

Tonight I went out and played my old beat to crap MIM Strat and a rather recent Hwy 1 Tele. Should sell them both as they don't do it for me any longer. Just don't do anything for me. It's amazing.

I've got a Godin LGp90 at my office and it's a great little guitar, but it's there in case someone breaks in and steals it, I've not lost much.

You guys keep on boycotting Gibson. I'll keep buying them. You can have my fair share of the Asian guitars. I don't want any of them.

Yo scott,

How would you compare the quality and tone of your godly RI's to the 1000 or less gibson line up? And how does it feel to be the kind of buyer that convinces Gibson that they could sell their guitars at high enough prices to cut a big profit and make it more than difficult for an aspiring or gigging musician to afford one? :laugh2: :laugh2:

I wanted one, but the fender strat was a much better deal for me at the time, i fell in love with it, sold the pickups for 160 bucks, got surfers in it, and i don't mind having it beat up from gigs and jams over time. I don't loathe Gibson quality, i just wished their 1000 dollar models didnt have those rectangular edged frets that cut away at your hands. If only they made a decent model lower than 1000 that I wouldn't have fret dress and swap pickups on. I got my am deluxe strat for 920 (got a discout cause it had a few scratches), 100 dollar rebate from fender, 160 dollars from pickups sale (people actually like SCN's!) -220 for surfers-end cost for a modded deluxe american strat w/ surfers-880. Closest deal from Gibson-SG special-900 bucks w/ sad pups and less than good fretwork.

 

[SingleCutDude]

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I have issues with Gibson these days . . .

Specifically, my issue with Gibson is that they have both insane pricing AND poor quality control. If they're going to charge a lot, fine, but it just bothers me that I can go into stores and pickup $3,000 Gibsons that look like they came from the seconds pile down at the Hamer factory . . .

Gibson seems to be riding on a name. I mean, don't get me wrong, some of the new Gibsons you can find are very nice guitars, but then, a lot aren't. An example of how little Gibson seems to care: The NAMM show. Every manufacturer makes up a great booth, makes sure the colours compliment their guitars, etc. Not Gibson. Gibson is the only booth around where you'll find institutional white-grey slat wall with guitar hanging on it. I guess they pretty much know that they could punch a distributor in the face, and somebody would still buy their guitars based on the name . . .

. . . And even though some of their guitars are still nice, I almost have a moral objection to buying them. People who DONT know guitars are getting taken . . . I mean someone is buying those lesser Gibsons, and it ain't the pros who can tell a lemon from a gem.

 

[Georgeatt]

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If you have money and dont care about how you spend it, the Gibson may be for you. But as far as tone, craftmanship, and quality - these qualities could be had for less, sometimes much less. For years I wanted a carved jazz arch-top from Gibson but could not afford the six to ten grand they cost. Now I see a company like Eastman (yep, the one from China) come along and produce a better one for $1800 and suddenly the average person is able to buy one. Before ponting the accusatory finger for not buying American, I think Gibson should share the blame for charging such a fortune.

 

[Scott_F]

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Yo scott,

How would you compare the quality and tone of your godly RI's to the 1000 or less gibson line up? And how does it feel to be the kind of buyer that convinces Gibson that they could sell their guitars at high enough prices to cut a big profit and make it more than difficult for an aspiring or gigging musician to afford one? :laugh2: :laugh2:

Well, it feels pretty good actually, almost godly. Keep in mind, it took me 43 years to get to this point.

I've not played any sub 1000 gibsons that hadn't gotten a fair share of boogers wiped on them, so difficult to comment.

I think it's pretty funny that no one blasts PRS for their selling prices or blasts Gretsch or Heritage or Hamer.

I called up Jay Wolfe to get a quote on a Hamer. Nice guitar. Price? $1950. That's cool, charge what they want. It's a free world!

I"m not trying to convert anyone to buy a Gibson. Just wanting to point out that they seriously float my boat. I've gone through a lot of guitars to get to this point. Just my two cents.

 

[JOLLY]

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Has anyone else ever noticed this? All the guys here that own/play Gibsons never "bash" any other guitar makers, but everyone here that doesn't own/play Gibsons always bash Gibson? I just think yall are jealous.

 

[JOLLY]

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I probably shouldn't have said everyone, but "the majority".

 

[B2D]

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Gibsons are like Bentleys.

are they worth the price? probably not.
are they of good quality? definitely
is there a demand for them? yes
would you like to own one? yes

Are they worth the price? Hell no! I'd rather pay under $1000 for a good-looklin Edwards or even an ESP EC1000.

Are they of good quality? Not recently. LC and I picked out two Gibson LPs out of 10 in a boutique shop at random a few months ago... one was neck heavy and had zero sustain, and the other one had faulty electronics! These guitars were DAYS old!

Is there a demand for them? Yes, among blind loyalists and people who don't know any better.

Would I like to own one? What the f*** do YOU think?

 

[JeffB]

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Yes, among blind loyalists and people who don't know any better

I had avoided this thread like the plague..but this comment is just so assinine....

I wouldn't argue that Gibson does not have any qc issues, but not everyone who buys one doesn't know their @$$ from a hole in the wall.

 

[deftgala]

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funny that some will pay $3k+ for a Gibson and change the pickups. For that price, you should be able to get the guitar you want and not have to replace anything.

+1... it would be nice to see Duncan pickups factory-installed in a LP at the gibson head office.

 

[B2D]

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I wouldn't argue that Gibson does not have any qc issues, but not everyone who buys one doesn't know their @$$ from a hole in the wall.

Look, Gibson does make the occasional nice guitar but lets face it... their track record hasn't been very good at all as of late. If you wanna go spend your money on them, fine. I can think of a lot more places to get more bang for the buck.

And if you happen to like Gibsons thats fine too. I'm fairly indifferent about them as guitars per se, it's the company letting ridiculous mistakes (like that sharpie line that was on TC's ES335 and the bad electronics in the one i tried) slip through that gets on my nerves. frankly I'm amazed that TC went ahead and bought another one after he got burned TWICE. If that happens with me I look elsewhere for what I need out of a peice of gear.

As for the prices... well personally it's just a matter of doing some homework but there ain't no way in hell I'm paying $2K for an LP standard.

I had avoided this thread like the plague.

Apparently not.

 

[deftgala]

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Has anyone else ever noticed this? All the guys here that own/play Gibsons never "bash" any other guitar makers, but everyone here that doesn't own/play Gibsons always bash Gibson? I just think yall are jealous.

I own a '95 Les Paul Studio and I have never run into any problem with it at all. The only thing I've ever done was the occasional set-up, but even then... it never really needed it.

I think Gibson Les Pauls (all guitars, actually) are like women -> first, you gotta have the courage to approach her and pick her up. After that, you gotta know how to touch her to make her say the things you want to hear

 

[B2D]

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I think Gibson Les Pauls (all guitars, actually) are like women -> first, you gotta have the courage to approach her and pick her up. After that, you gotta know how to touch her to make her say the things you want to hear

I don't need to romance my Strats, they're dirty little sluts when you get right down to it. :naughty: