WARRENLEELYNCH
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Re: Gonna try DiMarzio ?
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what amp/guitar do you useRACER X said:
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StrykeBack
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Re: Gonna try DiMarzio ?
I was planning on doing this set with my Ibanez SZ but its mohagonay and peopel have said the air norton might be too dark. I'm definitely sticking with the AIR zone in the bridge but what dimarzio should I put in the neck? tech support at dimarzio recommened the bridge model of the air classic flipped around. My guitar tech said he put virtual vintage pafs in the neck matched with the air zone in the guitars he built...
What do you guys think?
I was planning on doing this set with my Ibanez SZ but its mohagonay and peopel have said the air norton might be too dark. I'm definitely sticking with the AIR zone in the bridge but what dimarzio should I put in the neck? tech support at dimarzio recommened the bridge model of the air classic flipped around. My guitar tech said he put virtual vintage pafs in the neck matched with the air zone in the guitars he built...
What do you guys think?
lennartengel
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Re: Gonna try DiMarzio ?
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StrykeBack
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yeah, I'm definitely going with the air zone in the bridge, its just finding the right neck pickup to match this really well. the Air zone is supposed to have a lot of balls to its sound because of its low end so i'm thinking of either the Virtual PAF, since peopel say it can get chimey and yet be very warm and tight, or dimarzios techs say that the bridge model of the air classic its it will also have that open sound to it. Anybody have any experience with either of those or know of a better pickup to match the air zone? Had an air norton ordered but people think it will be way too dark.
yeah, I'm definitely going with the air zone in the bridge, its just finding the right neck pickup to match this really well. the Air zone is supposed to have a lot of balls to its sound because of its low end so i'm thinking of either the Virtual PAF, since peopel say it can get chimey and yet be very warm and tight, or dimarzios techs say that the bridge model of the air classic its it will also have that open sound to it. Anybody have any experience with either of those or know of a better pickup to match the air zone? Had an air norton ordered but people think it will be way too dark.
Majestic
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Re: Gonna try DiMarzio ?
I believe used the PAF Pro II, NOT the stock PAF Pro. He leans pretty heavily towards Ceramic magnets, as far as I can tell, with his rare use of the Breed being the exception.
The EVO will definitely sound very aggressive in a brighter guitar with a Floyd.
I've got one in an old Charvel with a stop-tail Vintage trem, and it's nowhere NEAR as offensive as it was in the Ibanez I used to own. In fact, I really dig it for occasional "mean" tones. In the Floyd-equipped Ibanez, it was flat-out lethal. Offensive & annoying, but lethal!
I believe used the PAF Pro II, NOT the stock PAF Pro. He leans pretty heavily towards Ceramic magnets, as far as I can tell, with his rare use of the Breed being the exception.
The EVO will definitely sound very aggressive in a brighter guitar with a Floyd.
I've got one in an old Charvel with a stop-tail Vintage trem, and it's nowhere NEAR as offensive as it was in the Ibanez I used to own. In fact, I really dig it for occasional "mean" tones. In the Floyd-equipped Ibanez, it was flat-out lethal. Offensive & annoying, but lethal!
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HeadBanginologist
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wow
alot of people who left this place are in this thread
Mattt was banned
RACERX left
warren lee lynch died
wow, pretty weird
wow
alot of people who left this place are in this thread
Mattt was banned
RACERX left
warren lee lynch died
wow, pretty weird
StrykeBack
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Re: Gonna try DiMarzio ?
I think I'm going to go with something that I know will work. my guitar tech is the designer of those high end Baker guitars and he said that they used the virtual PAF in the neck and the air zone in the bridge and their guitars were "lespaul killers". Which if I ever aquire a mesa boogie dual rectifier i would then have almost the identical setup of the guitarist of Pillar ( www.pillarmusic.com ) Which is my favorite distortion tone right now. Dimarzios tech support is extremely quick. I sent them an email at about 3 am last night, this morning i had an email waiting for me, which i responsed to and then they quickly replied within 10 minutes of my sending them. They were trying to say that the older air classic bridge model would sound warm and chimey in the neck, more so then the virtual paf, but it wouldn't match the air zone as well....So I've decided that I shouldn't compromise on tones and instead get 2 guitars : )
This ibanez SZ will be for the heavy palm muting distortion and gibsonish work while after seeing coldplay's live dvd I have a new respect for a telecaster, chimey and yet thicker then a strat. G&L tribute here i come
Thanks guys for some of your replys...the last guy noted that a bunch of the key thread people of this forum are now gone, which might explain the lack of interest.
Don't supposed anybody could give any good remarks of the virtual paf could they?
I think I'm going to go with something that I know will work. my guitar tech is the designer of those high end Baker guitars and he said that they used the virtual PAF in the neck and the air zone in the bridge and their guitars were "lespaul killers". Which if I ever aquire a mesa boogie dual rectifier i would then have almost the identical setup of the guitarist of Pillar ( www.pillarmusic.com ) Which is my favorite distortion tone right now. Dimarzios tech support is extremely quick. I sent them an email at about 3 am last night, this morning i had an email waiting for me, which i responsed to and then they quickly replied within 10 minutes of my sending them. They were trying to say that the older air classic bridge model would sound warm and chimey in the neck, more so then the virtual paf, but it wouldn't match the air zone as well....So I've decided that I shouldn't compromise on tones and instead get 2 guitars : )
This ibanez SZ will be for the heavy palm muting distortion and gibsonish work while after seeing coldplay's live dvd I have a new respect for a telecaster, chimey and yet thicker then a strat. G&L tribute here i come
Thanks guys for some of your replys...the last guy noted that a bunch of the key thread people of this forum are now gone, which might explain the lack of interest.
Don't supposed anybody could give any good remarks of the virtual paf could they?
Re: Gonna try DiMarzio ?
My friend uses an evo in his ibanez guitars, they sound very piercing and cut through the mix really well, far too much treble for my taste and not enough chunk or big mids I reckon they have a sound totally opposite to that typical big lespaul sound.
On the other hand I us a paf pro and a breed bridge in my sg the paf pro is a good allround pickup for both bridge and neck. Its my fav dimarzio and it is fairly transparent and creamy at the same time. The breed is great if you’ve got a thin bridge sound or want to beef it up with more punchy mids and a tighter and bigger bottom end, very huge sounding pickup with enough trebles to cut through, very underated. I found with dimarzios you have to put them in the right guitar, and have them set exactly at the right height for them to sound good. But once you get the sound its great.
My friend uses an evo in his ibanez guitars, they sound very piercing and cut through the mix really well, far too much treble for my taste and not enough chunk or big mids I reckon they have a sound totally opposite to that typical big lespaul sound.
On the other hand I us a paf pro and a breed bridge in my sg the paf pro is a good allround pickup for both bridge and neck. Its my fav dimarzio and it is fairly transparent and creamy at the same time. The breed is great if you’ve got a thin bridge sound or want to beef it up with more punchy mids and a tighter and bigger bottom end, very huge sounding pickup with enough trebles to cut through, very underated. I found with dimarzios you have to put them in the right guitar, and have them set exactly at the right height for them to sound good. But once you get the sound its great.
StrykeBack
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Re: Gonna try DiMarzio ?
which type of ibanez guitar though? most of the ibanez shredders are made of really thin wood. My SZ is all mohagany with string through...either way I just put in an order for the air zone fspacing and the virtual paf for the neck. Gene baker had this setup in his les paul type guitars and loved it...so since he will be instaling them I figure he's probably right on with these.
which type of ibanez guitar though? most of the ibanez shredders are made of really thin wood. My SZ is all mohagany with string through...either way I just put in an order for the air zone fspacing and the virtual paf for the neck. Gene baker had this setup in his les paul type guitars and loved it...so since he will be instaling them I figure he's probably right on with these.
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Skarekrough
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I've found the Evo's tend to have their real character and sound come through when you back off the gain to about half of what you typically use. If you listen to Vai and try and dial in his sound you might be surprised how often you're finding yourself turning the Gain knob down, and the Evos reflect this.
The Tone Zones...however...
I've found the Evo's tend to have their real character and sound come through when you back off the gain to about half of what you typically use. If you listen to Vai and try and dial in his sound you might be surprised how often you're finding yourself turning the Gain knob down, and the Evos reflect this.
The Tone Zones...however...
papersoul
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Yes, if I ever get another Wolfgang.....I'll get the AirZone with Air Norton or a Rio Grande BBQ/Texas. The only thing is that the you really can't adjust the pickups in a Wolfgang so the hotter stock pickups work well at those lower heights.
walt said:
Yes, if I ever get another Wolfgang.....I'll get the AirZone with Air Norton or a Rio Grande BBQ/Texas. The only thing is that the you really can't adjust the pickups in a Wolfgang so the hotter stock pickups work well at those lower heights.
Gearjoneser
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Yeah, I was just gonna comment on that.
Lee was banned
Matt just got tired of arguing
DelastCaffeine left after some controversy about him potentially committing suicide.
Racer X turned out to be a mental case who claimed to have accidentally cut his fingers off with a Skillsaw, as well as having multiple personalities.
WarrenLeeLynch was a reputable and cool forum member who unfortunately passed away from heart complications at a young age of 35, or something.
Trippy thread! :smack:
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Yeah, I was just gonna comment on that.
Lee was banned
Matt just got tired of arguing
DelastCaffeine left after some controversy about him potentially committing suicide.
Racer X turned out to be a mental case who claimed to have accidentally cut his fingers off with a Skillsaw, as well as having multiple personalities.
WarrenLeeLynch was a reputable and cool forum member who unfortunately passed away from heart complications at a young age of 35, or something.
Trippy thread! :smack:
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rinse_master
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Re: Gonna try DiMarzio ?
Even more trippy when you consider the subject of the thead? (maybe it's just me :question: )Gearjoneser said:
guitarshredder
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Re: Gonna try DiMarzio ?
I agree... :blackeye: :burnout: :question: :saeek:
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I agree... :blackeye: :burnout: :question: :saeek:
Re: Gonna try DiMarzio ?
Also i dont see why its such a big deal, liking or not liking dimarzios or duncans theyre just different companies. I reckon whatever makes u happy with your tone. people only say they like a certain pup betta than the otha according to their TASTE.
In this world the greatest shall be least.
Also i dont see why its such a big deal, liking or not liking dimarzios or duncans theyre just different companies. I reckon whatever makes u happy with your tone. people only say they like a certain pup betta than the otha according to their TASTE.
In this world the greatest shall be least.
Re: Gonna try DiMarzio ?
I plan to put a AirZone in my mahogany guitar.
Paf Pro, Air Classic, Virtual PAF... they're all good. But you could consider the PAF Joe too. It has a more vintage vibe than the Paf Pro (no high-mid spike), is a very very good all around PU with a great sensitivity.
The PAF Pro is good: clear, versatile, good splitting tone... but a bit modern.
The Virtual PAF neck is excellent if you are looking for the PAF sound. The bass is clearer and treble are less thin than usual PAF. They called this the "3D tone". Better clarity than the usual PAF or Gibson neck PU. But very vintage and no bite (round warm tone... the biting one is the Virtual PAF bridge). Beautifull clean, and good for creamy solo (but no rythm stuff).
The PAF Joe can do it all. Good harmonics like a Fred. If you pick hard, it bites. Very inspiring. It has a bit more mids than a PAF Pro. It can do high gain stuff pretty well. Good bass, it can do jazz thing too.
Clarity of Paf Pro + sensitivity and harmonics of the Fred + middle of the road (vintage/modern) vibe = PAF Joe.
The splitting tone has more mids than the PAF Pro but I love it.
Ced777
I plan to put a AirZone in my mahogany guitar.
Paf Pro, Air Classic, Virtual PAF... they're all good. But you could consider the PAF Joe too. It has a more vintage vibe than the Paf Pro (no high-mid spike), is a very very good all around PU with a great sensitivity.
The PAF Pro is good: clear, versatile, good splitting tone... but a bit modern.
The Virtual PAF neck is excellent if you are looking for the PAF sound. The bass is clearer and treble are less thin than usual PAF. They called this the "3D tone". Better clarity than the usual PAF or Gibson neck PU. But very vintage and no bite (round warm tone... the biting one is the Virtual PAF bridge). Beautifull clean, and good for creamy solo (but no rythm stuff).
The PAF Joe can do it all. Good harmonics like a Fred. If you pick hard, it bites. Very inspiring. It has a bit more mids than a PAF Pro. It can do high gain stuff pretty well. Good bass, it can do jazz thing too.
Clarity of Paf Pro + sensitivity and harmonics of the Fred + middle of the road (vintage/modern) vibe = PAF Joe.
The splitting tone has more mids than the PAF Pro but I love it.
Ced777
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