Gretsch filtertron winding theory

[idsnowdog]

Re: Gretsch filtertron winding theory

TV Jones and GFS make standard humbucker sized filtertron copies that aren't bad looking. I was under the impression that filtertrons were parallel rather than series. I sent an email to TV Jones to see if he could clear up what type of hum cancelling the filterton uses. Go to EBAY\musical instruments\guitar\parts & accessories\pickups\GFS pickups. Good sounding sound clips.

I have always lusted after a filtertron guitar. I think I might get an agile LP or 335 copy and put a set of the GFS hot nashvilles in.

Snowdog

 

[Zhangliqun]

Re: Gretsch filtertron winding theory

The metal half-covers/partial-covers (whatever you want to call them) on the filtertrons would have an effect only if the metal in them is magnetic, sort of like the base plate and surround bridge on a Telecaster.

The effect is a "meatier" tone, which, if these metal half-covers ARE magnetic (i.e., steel), probably accounts for why a 5k pickup like the filtertron sounds stronger than a 5k "should".

For a Strat you can get a pretty good "jangle" from a righteous vintage-wound Strat pu, and either Duncan or Fralin will do the trick for you there.

 

[jerry68]

Re: Gretsch filtertron winding theory

This is like a trainwreck. It makes me physically ill to witness each new post, yet I can't look away.

I am new here. I recently rediscovered a winding (sewing) machine I had used in the 90's and some notes, and thought I'd start winding again. I discovered this forum and immediately realized that I had to join if for nothing more then the humor in the "walters" threads...

 

[Rev Donzo]

Re: Gretsch filtertron winding theory

i gave up -- and put poor old Walters on my Egnore list! --

Sorry Walters, Bro -- I like ya! -- but i cannot answer 25 questions a night -- only to learn -- you did not learn -- that proved I wasted time-- Times about all we have -- I prefer not to waste it when I can.

take and wind up a Strat with wire 43- or 44 - and you'll get alot of that sound your after!

take it up to 6-7K

put some flat top fender mustang covers on em -- and paint on the Toaster top look!

 

[walters]

Re: Gretsch filtertron winding theory

I'm sorry Rev but i understand thanks for the help before

Thanks guys for the help thanks Zhangliqun and Al Heeley for helping
clear things up for me

 

[Al Heeley]

Re: Gretsch filtertron winding theory

I had a brainwave last night; if you take a standard single coil strat pickup and suspend it inside the chamber of a toaster while it is on, the combination of the linear array of high field currrent and the heat will actually cause a partial degaussing of the pole pieces within the pickup, which, as we all know, will suitably alter the dynamic frequency resonse of the subsequent magnetic flux. This will further drop down the low and mid-range tones from the pickup and give it a much brighter, jangly sound.
In fact, that must be why Rickenbacker call them 'Toaster' pickups.

You know, I might just be onto something here.

 

[Rev Donzo]

Re: Gretsch filtertron winding theory

subsequent

is that a spanish word?
sounds spanish..

 

[walters]

Re: Gretsch filtertron winding theory

if you take a standard single coil strat pickup and suspend it inside the chamber of a toaster while it is on, the combination of the linear array of high field currrent and the heat will actually cause a partial degaussing of the pole pieces within the pickup, which, as we all know, will suitably alter the dynamic frequency resonse of the subsequent magnetic flux. This will further drop down the low and mid-range tones from the pickup and give it a much brighter, jangly sound.


Nice i like this idea alot

1.) Degaussing the pole pieces

How do i change the dynamic frequency resonse the magnetic flux?

I thought Twang and jangly was the Midrange? we want more Midrange to get more twang and jangly i thought

 

[Al Heeley]

Re: Gretsch filtertron winding theory

is that a spanish word?
sounds spanish..

Heh, no, it's part of the ENGLISH language. You know, that language you stole from us and made uniquely your own while you were being nasty to all those prarie bisons?

 

[Al Heeley]

Re: Gretsch filtertron winding theory

I think degaussing involves puttng a magnet inside a coil of wire and then passing rapidly fluctuating (english word) strong AC current through the coil to weaken the magnetism. In effect it confuses the alignment of the magnetic zones within the metal matrix, and pre-'ages' the pups to take the edge off the bright tonal end.

 

[gripweed]

Re: Gretsch filtertron winding theory

if you take a standard single coil strat pickup and suspend it inside the chamber of a toaster while it is on, the combination of the linear array of high field currrent and the heat will actually cause a partial degaussing of the pole pieces within the pickup, which, as we all know, will suitably alter the dynamic frequency resonse of the subsequent magnetic flux. This will further drop down the low and mid-range tones from the pickup and give it a much brighter, jangly sound.


Nice i like this idea alot

1.) Degaussing the pole pieces

How do i change the dynamic frequency resonse the magnetic flux?

I thought Twang and jangly was the Midrange? we want more Midrange to get more twang and jangly i thought

Walters, please don't stick anything in a toaster! I'd really hate to see you get zapped. It won't do anything to the pickup.

 

[Guest]

Re: Gretsch filtertron winding theory

Dude, even I think that's a bad idea. Get away from the computer and just play a little. That ought to cool you down a bit.

 

[Al Heeley]

Re: Gretsch filtertron winding theory

I'm beginning to suspect this is all a massive wind up......:chairfall