guitarSQUIRELL
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Has anyone ever put a ceramic coating on a guitar for a finish?
GUITAR FINISHES
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guitarSQUIRELL
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I have guns that have this coating on them and I have them in my car door most of the time. It don't flake off at all.
I have guns that have this coating on them and I have them in my car door most of the time. It don't flake off at all.
BriGuy1968
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Ceramic microspheres are sometimes used in interior wall and trim paints, like this one that the company I work for manufactures:
https://www.olearypaint.com/shop/product_ceramic.php
It makes an outstanding wall/trim paint in terms of washability/scrubbability/stain resistance, but in my expert opinion (as a guy who has been selling coatings for 27 years), it would be awful as a finish for a guitar. Painting walls, trim, doors, windows, and even furniture simply doesn't require a coating with the hardness that something like a guitar (which can be exposed to near constant handling) requires.
That being said, if you're talking about the glaze that is used as a finish for ceramics (pottery, etc.), I have to agree with the other guys that have already chimed in... WAY too brittle and prone to cracking. Even if you were hoping for a cracked look, that stuff is as sharp as shards of glass and you'd end up slicing the hell out of your fingers, hands, clothes, etc. when the edges started pulling away from the substrate after the cracks occurred.
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Ceramic microspheres are sometimes used in interior wall and trim paints, like this one that the company I work for manufactures:
https://www.olearypaint.com/shop/product_ceramic.php
It makes an outstanding wall/trim paint in terms of washability/scrubbability/stain resistance, but in my expert opinion (as a guy who has been selling coatings for 27 years), it would be awful as a finish for a guitar. Painting walls, trim, doors, windows, and even furniture simply doesn't require a coating with the hardness that something like a guitar (which can be exposed to near constant handling) requires.
That being said, if you're talking about the glaze that is used as a finish for ceramics (pottery, etc.), I have to agree with the other guys that have already chimed in... WAY too brittle and prone to cracking. Even if you were hoping for a cracked look, that stuff is as sharp as shards of glass and you'd end up slicing the hell out of your fingers, hands, clothes, etc. when the edges started pulling away from the substrate after the cracks occurred.
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Edgecrusher
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For years i have had headers and chassis powder coated and ceramic coated and can tell you that you will not be able to do those types of finish on a guitar body.
The application process is electrostatic and requires the object to be grounded. Then requires curing at 390 degrees. Neither of the conditions are compatible with a guitar body.
For years i have had headers and chassis powder coated and ceramic coated and can tell you that you will not be able to do those types of finish on a guitar body.
The application process is electrostatic and requires the object to be grounded. Then requires curing at 390 degrees. Neither of the conditions are compatible with a guitar body.
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treyhaislip
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If you were doing if for a guitar to hang up on a wall then I guess I could see it being done but as mentioned by others...really not a wise thing to do if you are planning on playing the guitar.
If you were doing if for a guitar to hang up on a wall then I guess I could see it being done but as mentioned by others...really not a wise thing to do if you are planning on playing the guitar.
Edgecrusher
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For even that use... why? It doesnt look unique compared to matte or satin finished paint so what would the purpose be?
Good chance the process to apply it would ruin the body, The curing temps are high enough to char the wood and melt the glue. Wood is a poor conductor an would be problematic to the application process.
Really not sure why people want to reinvent the wheel. We have guitar finishes already what advantage would there be in ceramic coating it even if it was technically possible. Some of the new poly finishes are damn hard and resist cracking and scratching very well. Is the idea to protect your guitar incase some nut rushes out of the crowd with an angle grinder and you are forced to use your guitar as a shield?
I could maybe see it if they looked unique but the dont.
For even that use... why? It doesnt look unique compared to matte or satin finished paint so what would the purpose be?
Good chance the process to apply it would ruin the body, The curing temps are high enough to char the wood and melt the glue. Wood is a poor conductor an would be problematic to the application process.
Really not sure why people want to reinvent the wheel. We have guitar finishes already what advantage would there be in ceramic coating it even if it was technically possible. Some of the new poly finishes are damn hard and resist cracking and scratching very well. Is the idea to protect your guitar incase some nut rushes out of the crowd with an angle grinder and you are forced to use your guitar as a shield?
I could maybe see it if they looked unique but the dont.
guitarSQUIRELL
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guitarSQUIRELL
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The stuff that I have is an air cure formula from Cerakote that you use an HVLP spray gun with so, no harsh temperatures required. I stripped down my guitar earlier on and primered it with a flat primer coating from rust oleum. It's gonna be unique in its own way with the symbol of the PUNISHER ghosted in the coating on the front and the headstock. With black DR strings and hardware. Like I said, it's just a project guitar to have something to do after work.
The stuff that I have is an air cure formula from Cerakote that you use an HVLP spray gun with so, no harsh temperatures required. I stripped down my guitar earlier on and primered it with a flat primer coating from rust oleum. It's gonna be unique in its own way with the symbol of the PUNISHER ghosted in the coating on the front and the headstock. With black DR strings and hardware. Like I said, it's just a project guitar to have something to do after work.
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Edgecrusher
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and what will it do that paint wont?
and what will it do that paint wont?
zenmindbeginner
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This.
The Cerakote stuff has a low temp curing option for wood or plastic that is still too high at 150 degrees.
Edgecrusher already mentioned the fact that the GLUE will start plasticizing at 140 degrees... the wood will also expand
It's usually difficult to paint metal... requires a lot of surface preparation and specialized coatings. Cerakote is a specialized coating designed for metal.
The OP used Rustoleum as a primer? Just continue in that vein with the Krylon stuff you get at the same place you bought the Rustoleum. Krylon makes a bunch of faux metal, stone and whatnot finishes that you can use without any special curing procedures.
This.
The Cerakote stuff has a low temp curing option for wood or plastic that is still too high at 150 degrees.
Edgecrusher already mentioned the fact that the GLUE will start plasticizing at 140 degrees... the wood will also expand
It's usually difficult to paint metal... requires a lot of surface preparation and specialized coatings. Cerakote is a specialized coating designed for metal.
The OP used Rustoleum as a primer? Just continue in that vein with the Krylon stuff you get at the same place you bought the Rustoleum. Krylon makes a bunch of faux metal, stone and whatnot finishes that you can use without any special curing procedures.
crusty philtrum
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Just bolt a Strat neck to a toilet bowl.
Just bolt a Strat neck to a toilet bowl.
treyhaislip
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I guess I was thinking it could potentially have a cool look/piece of art kinda thing, I personally don't think it would turn out the same way a matte or satin finish would and I've seen some crazy stuff done in the name of art...
Still don't think its the best thing to do, but if the dude wants to give it a try it's his guitar.
I guess I was thinking it could potentially have a cool look/piece of art kinda thing, I personally don't think it would turn out the same way a matte or satin finish would and I've seen some crazy stuff done in the name of art...
Still don't think its the best thing to do, but if the dude wants to give it a try it's his guitar.
guitarSQUIRELL
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Im gonna do it and once its done ill post pictures....My friend and i did his wooden grips on his pistol with this stuff and it hasnt flaked or anything yet and its solid
Im gonna do it and once its done ill post pictures....My friend and i did his wooden grips on his pistol with this stuff and it hasnt flaked or anything yet and its solid
treyhaislip
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Sweet! I will be very interested to see how it turns out. Could you post a pic/link for the stuff you are using?
Sweet! I will be very interested to see how it turns out. Could you post a pic/link for the stuff you are using?
guitarSQUIRELL
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Im using a coating called cerakote.....made by cerakote.......www.cerakote.com is where the guy gets it..... My guitar is a genea pig for a new application hes doing...so we will see how it goes...
Im using a coating called cerakote.....made by cerakote.......www.cerakote.com is where the guy gets it..... My guitar is a genea pig for a new application hes doing...so we will see how it goes...
Demanic
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Better yet, a urinal.
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treyhaislip
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That actually looks awesome! I was thinking along the lines of a ceramic glaze you would find on like a mug or something...but that stuff is completely different from what I was thinking.
That actually looks awesome! I was thinking along the lines of a ceramic glaze you would find on like a mug or something...but that stuff is completely different from what I was thinking.
