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Interesting read. Thoughts?
https://joebennett.net/2014/10/13/guitarists-stop-hurting-the-audience-at-small-gigs/
https://joebennett.net/2014/10/13/guitarists-stop-hurting-the-audience-at-small-gigs/
Guitarists: Stop hurting the audience at small gigs
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GilmourD
Burritotoneologist
Re: Guitarists: Stop hurting the audience at small gigs
I once played a gig where the band that went on before us was the problem. Small stage (my tubby arse could barely fit on the stage). The bassist of that band had a full stack with two 4x10 cabinets. He also turned it up so much that the entire crowd went OUTSIDE to the parking lot where we watched the rearview mirrors of all the parked cars rattle and still had to shout to converse.
That night I was running my PODxt Live through the house PA. My other guitarist ran a Flextone III XL with the XLR outs to the board and my bassist had a Fender Rumble 100 with the same setup. Everybody was happy.
I once played a gig where the band that went on before us was the problem. Small stage (my tubby arse could barely fit on the stage). The bassist of that band had a full stack with two 4x10 cabinets. He also turned it up so much that the entire crowd went OUTSIDE to the parking lot where we watched the rearview mirrors of all the parked cars rattle and still had to shout to converse.
That night I was running my PODxt Live through the house PA. My other guitarist ran a Flextone III XL with the XLR outs to the board and my bassist had a Fender Rumble 100 with the same setup. Everybody was happy.
crusty philtrum
Vintageologist
Re: Guitarists: Stop hurting the audience at small gigs
STOP hurting them, you say ?
Hmmm, this is going to cause me to have to completely re-think what live playing is all about.
STOP hurting them, you say ?
Hmmm, this is going to cause me to have to completely re-think what live playing is all about.
Rand-O-Monium
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Re: Guitarists: Stop hurting the audience at small gigs
Great comments!!!
Great comments!!!
Wattage
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Funkfingers
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Re: Guitarists: Stop hurting the audience at small gigs
I have a Fender HR DeVille 410. I would like to see an angled stand that can reliably support its weight - assuming that I can even be bothered to risk crippling myself lifting the amp that high off the floor.
For me, the ol' Fender tilt-back legs would be a better solution.
I have a Fender HR DeVille 410. I would like to see an angled stand that can reliably support its weight - assuming that I can even be bothered to risk crippling myself lifting the amp that high off the floor.
For me, the ol' Fender tilt-back legs would be a better solution.
Leon Of Late
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Re: Guitarists: Stop hurting the audience at small gigs
I have an amp stand and some of them will hold 100 pounds or more. Mine supported a JCM 800 4212 with no problem. I like the sound a lot better than it sitting on the floor. Mine is on a stand at home all the time.
I have an amp stand and some of them will hold 100 pounds or more. Mine supported a JCM 800 4212 with no problem. I like the sound a lot better than it sitting on the floor. Mine is on a stand at home all the time.
BriGuy1968
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Re: Guitarists: Stop hurting the audience at small gigs
I have been using an amp stand pretty religiously for the past 5 years or so, and I discovered that I hear my guitar much better without some sound guy whining about too much stage volume!
I have been using an amp stand pretty religiously for the past 5 years or so, and I discovered that I hear my guitar much better without some sound guy whining about too much stage volume!
Lake Placid Blues
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Re: Guitarists: Stop hurting the audience at small gigs
This is a more better amp stand:
http://www.standback.net/
Why? Because it leaves the amp still in contact with the floor. Amp stands that lift the amp completely off the floor can cause the tone to sound thin.
To the general problem: venues often bring a lot of these kinds of problems on themselves by forcing musicians to play on tiny stages.
This is a more better amp stand:
http://www.standback.net/
Why? Because it leaves the amp still in contact with the floor. Amp stands that lift the amp completely off the floor can cause the tone to sound thin.
To the general problem: venues often bring a lot of these kinds of problems on themselves by forcing musicians to play on tiny stages.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Guitarists: Stop hurting the audience at small gigs
No kidding. Some are pitiful for a band and it's gear to try to fit on. Then I see some big band (some of which are pretty lackluster these days)playing in a stadium, and their stage is about an acre. Life isn't fair.
No kidding. Some are pitiful for a band and it's gear to try to fit on. Then I see some big band (some of which are pretty lackluster these days)playing in a stadium, and their stage is about an acre. Life isn't fair.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Guitarists: Stop hurting the audience at small gigs
You do come up with some good ones.
You do come up with some good ones.
johnthomas
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Re: Guitarists: Stop hurting the audience at small gigs
I like that the original opinion article shows one of the myriad ways that STAGE volume gets out of hand.
Please remember that our goal is to provide a good experience for ALL involved.
For myself, this means I use an angle iron amp stand exactly like the one pictured.
It also meant that I learned how to mix sound properly early in my career. Be aware that others do not share the guitarists' hunger for pure earbleeding tone above all other considerations. IF you have not tried singing louder than your guitar, you probably need to experience this...it will likely cause you to rethink what LOUD really means.
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I like that the original opinion article shows one of the myriad ways that STAGE volume gets out of hand.
Please remember that our goal is to provide a good experience for ALL involved.
For myself, this means I use an angle iron amp stand exactly like the one pictured.
It also meant that I learned how to mix sound properly early in my career. Be aware that others do not share the guitarists' hunger for pure earbleeding tone above all other considerations. IF you have not tried singing louder than your guitar, you probably need to experience this...it will likely cause you to rethink what LOUD really means.
peace
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