Hey! Talk to me about the Marshall MX212

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Or whatever it's called. How is it? Good? Bad? Ugly?

I'm tryna get a decently priced cab that I can swap speakers in later since Mr. Hovercraft isn't taking any custom orders at the moment. (Meaning that my cab has been put on hold :( ...)

I know the seventy 80's aren't beloved speakers not anything but I'm just wanting some opinions.
 
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Seventy/80's? Honestly, if you're already got something to use and you're not planning on replacing those speakers ASAP, it's probably not worth your time.

That said, I know nothing about the cabinet of which you speak. I have experience with the Seventy/80's (they were in my first cab) and I wouldn't recommend them to anybody.
 
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Good to know. I'll most likely just buy some swamp thangs and wire these cabs up. Then when I finally get my hover cab I'll drop some V30s in there... Maybe
 
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That's a plan. I have a swamp thang in my Showman cab. I used it in my doom band and it was fantastic. I bet it would be a perfect match for your amp.
 
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Agileguy_101 said:
That's a plan. I have a swamp thang in my Showman cab. I used it in my doom band and it was fantastic. I bet it would be a perfect match for your amp.
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I'm sure they'd be awesome. Strangely enough, I'm not really a "Doomy" player. I use some of that technique but I'm definitely more hard rock/ "desert rock". (it is pretty much the same **** anyway, amirite?)
 
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Big Flannel said:
I'm sure they'd be awesome. Strangely enough, I'm not really a "Doomy" player. I use some of that technique but I'm definitely more hard rock/ "desert rock". (it is pretty much the same **** anyway, amirite?)
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I look at the difference between stoner/doom and desert rock as the difference between Kyuss and pre-Era Vulgaris Queens of the Stone Age.

So yeah, they're both Josh Homme.
 
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Do yourself a favor and save up for a better cab.

Speakers are #1 but the build of the cab is significant. I have a friend with an excellent Fender Prosonic head and the matching 4x12 Fender cab in a way too sexy lizard green with V30s... When he got his black Orange 4x12 with the same speakers he couldn't put the Fender up for sale fast enough.... But nobody will buy it because of used Orange, Mesa, and 1960 cabs being ridiculously cheap right now.

Also I think there's a ******bag on this forum who, upon being enlightened to the significant tonal changes of adding a PPC412 to his Fender Sunn model T 412 quickly snapped up a Sunn 2x15, a green 4x12 and an Emperor 2x12 because cabs are simply way more important than every other thing.

Don't waste your awesome head on a cheap cab. I would rather play a Micro Terror through a good cab.
 
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Honestly, its a 20w amp. Just find a closeback 2x12. You aren't going to blow a speaker. Get an empty 2x12 from Seismic Audio and put a pair of decent 30w speakers in it.
 
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A sweet, handwired 20w head into a cheap compromise of a cab&speaker. Like pouring gourmet coffee into a half-full cup of dunkin donuts. Like using 50yearold whiskey in a weak whiskey coke.
 
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Arguably its a better choice than the Marshall. Any Carvin cabs around you? Stupidly underpriced normally. Preferably find an orange 2x12 imo
 
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Whoawhoawhoa, I was just following by example and exhausting all terrible and inexpensive options first.

I'm not buying the MX. I'm going to install new speakers in the cabs I got and wait for my Hovercab.
 
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jon the art guy said:
Honestly, its a 20w amp. Just find a closeback 2x12. You aren't going to blow a speaker. Get an empty 2x12 from Seismic Audio and put a pair of decent 30w speakers in it.
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I'm not concerned at blowing a speaker or volume really as of right now.
 
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You shouldn't upgrade those god-awful cabs man. No speaker or anything is going to make them sound good.Just go to ebay or CL and find something nice and get it.If you have to play out or something I will let you borrow the 1922 or 115.Under 500 for a new cab the Avatar 2x12 is a good deal still.
 
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Oldish thread, but my two-cents: MDF cabs will compromise the tone of even the best speakers. They might not sound TERRIBLE, but won't sound as good as they would in a baltic birch ply or solid wood box (dimensions and all else being equal). Also, going to be extra heavy, with no redeeming virtues to compensate. That Marshall 2X12 weighs 52#, I think. (I only looked it up to compare with a cab that I have on hand.) By comparison, mine is made of solid, edge-joined rock maple, including the soundboard, with acoustic damping foam inside. IT weighs 57#, but sounds better than any other 2X12 I've used.

Oinkus said:
You shouldn't upgrade those god-awful cabs man. No speaker or anything is going to make them sound good.Just go to ebay or CL and find something nice and get it.If you have to play out or something I will let you borrow the 1922 or 115.Under 500 for a new cab the Avatar 2x12 is a good deal still.
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If that's Marshall's cheaper 2x12 you're asking about, I wouldn't bother.

If it's the more expensive Lead 1936 model, the cab is great. I even like the stock speakers, Celestion G12T-75.

I have 2 of them. The older JCM900 series version I own is very warm and has a nice low-midrange growl. The newer one, I bought recently and the previous owner said he never pushed it, so I'm guessing the speakers aren't broken in yet. It's brighter sounding. The 2 cabs actually seem to blend really nicely for a thick tone, but I'm hoping with time the speakers in the newer cab start to sound more like the old one... mind you with 20 or so years of use on the older cab, the newer one has some catching up to do.
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Bollocks.. ..I'll take some flak for this, but I'm going to say it anyway :bigthumb:

I've played through a lot of nice sounding cheap cabs & also have a few of my own (Bugera/Laney). MDF is the accoustic equivalent of foam-stuffing a ply cab anyway. The reason the foam's in there is to deaden resonance, which is what MDF already does (minus the foam.)

Yeah, it's not going to be as road-worthy but if all your're doing is sitting at home & jamming on the couch it's not going to make a difference tone-wise (certainly not anything that some minor EQ'ing from the amp won't fix)..

When it comes to hi-fi speakers/floor-standers, as a rule...everything is MDF (or even deader stuff like metal/molded fiberglass), no matter how "high end". Anything that resonates more (ply/pine/other hardwoods are a big no-no...)

This looks like an MG cab..(or the like. .) ..does'nt sound too bad.


****ty speakers, bad design, inadequate bracing, stuff like that can be a problem (but there are plenty cheap cabs constructed just fine/solid enough to gig..& lots of cheap speakers actually sound great..)

I've got ply cabs too & play through a Marshall 1960b at rehearsal & most of our gigs....there's no difference worth griping about. Most time's I barely need to tweak amp settings switching between them ..
 
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There are nice inexpensive cabs, but if you can afford the Lead 1936 it is way better. I've tried both. Maybe it's the speakers that make the difference I hear, but the less expensive Marshall 2x12 is definitely not as good sounding.

I had a Line 6 cab I brought home from the pawn shop for $160 last year. It sounded great. I took a look inside and it turned out to be plywood. Crappy speakers but the cab seemed to make up for it.
 
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Not saying it (1936) isn't..but the reason, despite what manufacturers would like you to think, is'nt ply vs MDF though. It's going to be about cab design/dimensions/thickness/baffle-type & stuff like that. MDF is is actually technically superior to ply (void-free/baltic birch, whatever..) for cab building due to it's extra density & comparative lack of resonance. The reason ply was originally used for guitar cabs is because it's all that was available at the time, strong & most of all...cheap, not for it's acoustic properties or you would'nt be stuffing it with dampening material/foam (the reason why that stuff is almost never stuffed into hi-fi speakers) ..that's what I'm saying.

I would still take a ply cab out on tour though...but eh, at home...a good MDF cab actually sounds great :bigthumb:

Some myths are profitable to perpetuate though :lmao:
 
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