Virtual Kevorkian
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Re: Higher Wattage Greenbacks?
That's actually one of the very rigs I'm looking into.
That's actually one of the very rigs I'm looking into.
Higher Wattage Greenbacks?
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Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: Higher Wattage Greenbacks?
They can stand a 1959 Marshall top...which has a huge lowend....
Just heard some highgainers that made them fart out like there was no end to it, but if your amp is tight enough...well it might just work out in a cool way!!
Nah maybe they just suit your playing style then....
They can stand a 1959 Marshall top...which has a huge lowend....
Just heard some highgainers that made them fart out like there was no end to it, but if your amp is tight enough...well it might just work out in a cool way!!
Virtual Kevorkian
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Re: Higher Wattage Greenbacks?
I can imagine them farting out with a Recto, definitely, but I'll be using it with amps along the lines of 5150, Mark IV, DSL, etc.
I can imagine them farting out with a Recto, definitely, but I'll be using it with amps along the lines of 5150, Mark IV, DSL, etc.
Virtual Kevorkian
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Re: Higher Wattage Greenbacks?
Alright guys, tell me if this would work...
I had this idea of getting two 8ohm Greenbacks, and two 8ohm, 50 watt resistors. I'd wire them up in series-parallel, like a standard 4x12, for a total of 150 watts @ 8ohms. I'd build some kind of housing/headtsink for the resistors, but they'd be inside the cabinet.
In theory, I think this would work, but can anyone a bit more tech savvy let me know if I'm overlooking something?
Alright guys, tell me if this would work...
I had this idea of getting two 8ohm Greenbacks, and two 8ohm, 50 watt resistors. I'd wire them up in series-parallel, like a standard 4x12, for a total of 150 watts @ 8ohms. I'd build some kind of housing/headtsink for the resistors, but they'd be inside the cabinet.
In theory, I think this would work, but can anyone a bit more tech savvy let me know if I'm overlooking something?
Re: Higher Wattage Greenbacks?
Question. What's special about the G12-65's? I've read of a lot of people using them but I don't know anything about them.
Do they work best for certain amps or certain styles of music. or are they just an all around good multi-purpose speaker?
Question. What's special about the G12-65's? I've read of a lot of people using them but I don't know anything about them.
Do they work best for certain amps or certain styles of music. or are they just an all around good multi-purpose speaker?
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Higher Wattage Greenbacks?
G12-65's use a very similar cone/magnet structure to a greenbak but have a 65 watt voice coil thus making them the closest to the tone of a greenback but at a higher wattage than 25 watts. The only other appeal to them IMO would be that until recently they were out of production and kind of hard to get and now the only ones you can get are in the herritage series and cost around $170 each. Another big thing about them is that a lot of the Dumble clone builders (Fuchs, Two Rock, etc) suggest them in the cabs to match their heads...all of these things add a bit of hype around them.
G12-65's use a very similar cone/magnet structure to a greenbak but have a 65 watt voice coil thus making them the closest to the tone of a greenback but at a higher wattage than 25 watts. The only other appeal to them IMO would be that until recently they were out of production and kind of hard to get and now the only ones you can get are in the herritage series and cost around $170 each. Another big thing about them is that a lot of the Dumble clone builders (Fuchs, Two Rock, etc) suggest them in the cabs to match their heads...all of these things add a bit of hype around them.
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: Higher Wattage Greenbacks?
I know that impedance and resistance are NOT the same thing, but I cannot tell you with any certainty if this would work.
I'm *guessing* that it would not work, because if it did, you wouldn't see guys who know this stuff worrying about matching impedances. They'd just make an impedance matching device, consisting of a few resistors and a switch.
But, like I said, this is just my slightly educated guess.
I know that impedance and resistance are NOT the same thing, but I cannot tell you with any certainty if this would work.
I'm *guessing* that it would not work, because if it did, you wouldn't see guys who know this stuff worrying about matching impedances. They'd just make an impedance matching device, consisting of a few resistors and a switch.
But, like I said, this is just my slightly educated guess.
PUCKBOY99
Irish Flagologist
Re: Higher Wattage Greenbacks?
Yeah, a little of both I'd say.
I've got them in a 2x12 & have run a fair amount of amps thru them & haven't had a bad experience yet.
They're fantastic with the Fuchs, but I once had a '77 Marshall combo w/a pair in them & IT sounded fantastic.
In short, they're great all around speakers, but still give that Greenback tone...if that makes any sense.
Cleans can stay pretty clean & the dirt has a nice clarity to it.
I dunno....I always thought they were more 12H30-like in that sense.
Yeah, a little of both I'd say.
I've got them in a 2x12 & have run a fair amount of amps thru them & haven't had a bad experience yet.
They're fantastic with the Fuchs, but I once had a '77 Marshall combo w/a pair in them & IT sounded fantastic.
In short, they're great all around speakers, but still give that Greenback tone...if that makes any sense.
Cleans can stay pretty clean & the dirt has a nice clarity to it.
I dunno....I always thought they were more 12H30-like in that sense.
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the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Higher Wattage Greenbacks?
You have to try the Reinhardt speakers...they are a cross between the G12-65 and the G12-H30...ghreat speakers Luke has a VERY similar set in his Marshall 4x12 and loves them!
You have to try the Reinhardt speakers...they are a cross between the G12-65 and the G12-H30...ghreat speakers Luke has a VERY similar set in his Marshall 4x12 and loves them!
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: Higher Wattage Greenbacks?
By "Reinhardt", do you mean Bogner?
By "Reinhardt", do you mean Bogner?
Rich_T
Kyuss_Rockologist
Re: Higher Wattage Greenbacks?
I've been rocking a 4x12 with 25 watt greenbacks for a good six months now, they take my fully cranked 2203 pushed hard by a rat and a fulltone fulldrive 2, they don't fart! I use some pretty agressive tones!
Greenbacks for that kind of music??
They will fart out on him faster than B_Bent will change...something
I've been rocking a 4x12 with 25 watt greenbacks for a good six months now, they take my fully cranked 2203 pushed hard by a rat and a fulltone fulldrive 2, they don't fart! I use some pretty agressive tones!
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Higher Wattage Greenbacks?
No, Bogners name is Reinhold (im not sure thats spelled right but what the hey...)
Im talking abotu Bob Reinhardt...terry, his speakers are made for him by Weber and are a cross between a G12-65 and a G12H-30...sound killer!
No, Bogners name is Reinhold (im not sure thats spelled right but what the hey...)
Im talking abotu Bob Reinhardt...terry, his speakers are made for him by Weber and are a cross between a G12-65 and a G12H-30...sound killer!
Hot _Grits
Buttery Toneologist
Re: Higher Wattage Greenbacks?
Nope, not the gold, another speaker. forgot to ask my friend. i'll get onto it...
Nope, not the gold, another speaker. forgot to ask my friend. i'll get onto it...
Dr.Mavashi
neonderthalotonalogist
Re: Higher Wattage Greenbacks?
Celestion Classic Lead 80's - is that an 80 watt speaker? and how do they hold up for heavy hi gain stuff?
Celestion Classic Lead 80's - is that an 80 watt speaker? and how do they hold up for heavy hi gain stuff?
PUCKBOY99
Irish Flagologist
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