Hmmm.. Rectoverb 50, Rectoverb 25, or other... ?

[Boogie Bill]

Re: Hmmm.. Rectoverb 50, Rectoverb 25, or other... ?

I agree with Dave. Since you have the little amp, the bigger amp will carry you through almost any other situation with the music you play. I prefer the Recto-Verb over the Solo 50. That said, you might want to look into a 25--35 watt amp like the Mini-Recto Reverb COMBO or the Mark V:35...an amp you can just pickup and take to a jam. Most of the blues-rock jams I go to, players are using the ubiquitous Fender Deluxe Reverb, Blues Jr., etc., though somebody will occasionally bring a 1/2 or 1/4 stack or 212 combo. I can step-down my Mark III or IV combos to as low as 15-watts if we are playing quietly or go to a full 85-watts of power if it starts turning into "Volume Wars". Even my DC-3 or the Mark V:35 combos can get really loud when I need it. I have never felt out-gunned with any of those amps.

I also have the Mark V:25 head with the two 112 Recto cabs. It's a great little stack. Back in the day when I had my hard rock band in Seattle, I could have used this little stack on about 75% of the club gigs we did, and been perfectly fine, even for clean rhythm parts.

It helps to have a variety of amps, not only to match size and power to the venue, but for when you start crossing over to other genres.

Bill

 

[NYcibbyRyder]

Re: Hmmm.. Rectoverb 50, Rectoverb 25, or other... ?

What do you think about the 1x12 combo vs a Head and 2x12 cab? I know the Rectoverb Combo is 90 lbs. vs the 41 lb head and 61 lb cab. Sounds like I'd rather carry them separately. I haven't thought of the Mark series yet.


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[NYcibbyRyder]

Re: Hmmm.. Rectoverb 50, Rectoverb 25, or other... ?

I agree with Dave. Since you have the little amp, the bigger amp will carry you through almost any other situation with the music you play. I prefer the Recto-Verb over the Solo 50. That said, you might want to look into a 25--35 watt amp like the Mini-Recto Reverb COMBO or the Mark V:35...an amp you can just pickup and take to a jam. Most of the blues-rock jams I go to, players are using the ubiquitous Fender Deluxe Reverb, Blues Jr., etc., though somebody will occasionally bring a 1/2 or 1/4 stack or 212 combo. I can step-down my Mark III or IV combos to as low as 15-watts if we are playing quietly or go to a full 85-watts of power if it starts turning into "Volume Wars". Even my DC-3 or the Mark V:35 combos can get really loud when I need it. I have never felt out-gunned with any of those amps.

Bill

This also brings me back to my original post. Rectoverb 25 vs Rectoverb 50 lol.



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[some_dude]

Re: Hmmm.. Rectoverb 50, Rectoverb 25, or other... ?

This also brings me back to my original post. Rectoverb 25 vs Rectoverb 50 lol.

I picked up the Rectoverb 25 combo thinking it was just a low powered Recto. I mostly wanted it because it was light and self contained... far more grab than a head/cab or a 100 lb combo. With it I can carry my entire rig in one trip to the car.

The amp is pretty cool. It's definitely a Rectifier, but the EL84 power section gives it a different vibe. More old school and saggy, more mids/less bass, more compression on the power amp side of things. Great crunch tones and I love playing lead on it. The reverb circuit on a Rectoverb tends to darken the response somewhat. The Mini-Recto will be more aggressive whereas the ROV:25 will be a little smoother.

The Dual Rectifiers on the other hand have a relentless percussive thump when you pound on the low E string. It's the sound you've heard in all the recordings, only it's far more ferocious in person. The problem is that it takes a certain amount of volume to achieve. Rectos are capable of sounding good at low-to-moderate volumes if you know how to EQ them, but as that master volume goes above 12:00 it turns into a raging sledgehammer.

I've never played a 50w Recto before, but if it's anything like the 100w amps on half power then there's no significant change and volume but it drops some low end and makes the midrange more prominent. Potentially better for rock IMO.

But you've got to be realistic about your playing situation. A Dual Recto turned up past half on the master volume will knock the pictures off the walls of the apartment next to the apartment that's next to you, as well as kill small animals and blue screen of death any PC that happens to be near it.

 

[NYcibbyRyder]

Re: Hmmm.. Rectoverb 50, Rectoverb 25, or other... ?

Holy sht that was the best thing I've read ever. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] you definitely have a point. The 25w would probably be best for my apt. I don't mind carrying weight so that doesn't bother me. But 90lbs.... Eeee. My only issue with that is I'd want it to be bone crushing if I ever went out to jam. I guess im worried the recto 25 won't have enough low end. I know the Dual would definitely be too much for pretty much anything besides a larger gig should I ever play one. I do play more metal than rock so there's that. I've had my Schecter in Drop c so long I finally threw in a set of skinny top heavy bottoms and am thinking of getting it set up for 12 gauge and leaving it in lower tunings permanently. I have my Ibanez also for e standard and drop d so I'm not too worried.


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[some_dude]

Re: Hmmm.. Rectoverb 50, Rectoverb 25, or other... ?

I do play more metal than rock so there's that.

If you choose the ROV:25 I recommend the head/cab.

Here's a couple of quick clips. Quality sucks, but they should give you an idea of the difference. The combo is more mid forward and open sounding. The closed back cab has stronger top and bottom end response. If you plan on doing a lot of palm muting you'll probably find the closed back cab more satisfying.

Edit: there'll be a second video posted shortly. Apparently one of the admins has been f*cking with the settings so I can only post one at a time.

 

[some_dude]

Re: Hmmm.. Rectoverb 50, Rectoverb 25, or other... ?

 

[Boogie Bill]

Re: Hmmm.. Rectoverb 50, Rectoverb 25, or other... ?

There's a third option over combo vs. head+cab, and that is a combo with an extension speaker. I use a Mesa 112 EVM Thiele cab with all of my combos. The Thiele provides a lot of tight, low-end punch and projection for the combo. The Thiele is a ported enclosure; the port tuned for maximum low-end without unwanted distortion. The combo sits nicely on top, putting the controls closer to eye level. You have a 212 rig, yet the stage footprint is only slightly larger than a Princeton Reverb. Need to grab and go? Just take the combo. Pub gig? No problemo fitting the entire rig into a Prius.

This is how I use my Mesa combos with my band--on top of a Thiele. But, you could also do a rig with a 112 combo and a 212 Horizontal or Vertical Recto. Looks a little weird perhaps, but it works quite well. I have a Hor. Recto that I use with my 212 Maverick combo...again, it add tremendous low-end THUMP to the combo.

Another reason I like this kind of rig is that i get the projection with the Thiele, but I also get the airy spaciousness of an open back cab. That can be really helpful on small stages. This amp has a lot to offer.

Bill

 

[NYcibbyRyder]

Hmmm.. Rectoverb 50, Rectoverb 25, or other... ?

Heres my setup now. My main reason for selling the combos is that the recto weighs 90lbs which sucks to carry, and the HT5r's speaker sucks. So I figure if I sell the combos, buy a 212 recto cab and buy the same amps in Head versions I could kill 2 birds. Then I started reading about the recto 25, and here I am.

 

[NYcibbyRyder]

Re: Hmmm.. Rectoverb 50, Rectoverb 25, or other... ?

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[NYcibbyRyder]

Hmmm.. Rectoverb 50, Rectoverb 25, or other... ?

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[NYcibbyRyder]

Hmmm.. Rectoverb 50, Rectoverb 25, or other... ?

There's a third option over combo vs. head+cab, and that is a combo with an extension speaker. I use a Mesa 112 EVM Thiele cab with all of my combos. The Thiele provides a lot of tight, low-end punch and projection for the combo. The Thiele is a ported enclosure; the port tuned for maximum low-end without unwanted distortion. The combo sits nicely on top, putting the controls closer to eye level. You have a 212 rig, yet the stage footprint is only slightly larger than a Princeton Reverb. Need to grab and go? Just take the combo. Pub gig? No problemo fitting the entire rig into a Prius.

This is how I use my Mesa combos with my band--on top of a Thiele. But, you could also do a rig with a 112 combo and a 212 Horizontal or Vertical Recto. Looks a little weird perhaps, but it works quite well. I have a Hor. Recto that I use with my 212 Maverick combo...again, it add tremendous low-end THUMP to the combo.

Another reason I like this kind of rig is that i get the projection with the Thiele, but I also get the airy spaciousness of an open back cab. That can be really helpful on small stages. This amp has a lot to offer.

Bill

That's a pretty awesome idea.... then I could just plug the HT5r into the 1x12 extension as a Head/cab, but I'd still have a 90lb bastard to haul around if I went to a jam


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[Kruspe]

Re: Hmmm.. Rectoverb 50, Rectoverb 25, or other... ?

How about used cab clone or some loadbox for silence practice ? I use two notes torpedo, it's expensive but it's killer, worth every penny. You can find cheaper options, just plug you power output to it and play to headphones.
Or power attenuator..

 

[NYcibbyRyder]

Re: Hmmm.. Rectoverb 50, Rectoverb 25, or other... ?

What about Rectoverb 50 vs tremoverb?


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