humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
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King IzzO)))
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Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
Regardless, that guitar is ****ing ugly. Not being able to see the humbucker tabs doesn't make it less so.
Regardless, that guitar is ****ing ugly. Not being able to see the humbucker tabs doesn't make it less so.
RorySquier
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Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
I can't tell if this microphone
is single-coil or humbucking
underneath this foam? Dang!
A pickup IS a microphone for all intents and purposes. It's not a microphone in practical terms, but still... it's a mic
Maybe he cut off the legs and drills a tiny hole between the bobbins in the baseplate and used 2 little screws to fix them to the body, maybe even with the polepieces acting as other anchor points. I really like this look, though.
I can't tell if this microphone
is single-coil or humbucking
underneath this foam? Dang!
Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
It's so easy to ridicule my post, but you just demonstrate a clear unfamiliarity with the matter. I suggest looking up the similarities.
I can't tell if this microphone
is single-coil or humbucking
underneath this foam? Dang!
It's so easy to ridicule my post, but you just demonstrate a clear unfamiliarity with the matter. I suggest looking up the similarities.
ratherdashing
Kablamminator
Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
I would be more interested in that mounting for a single coil (P90's notwithstanding), as opposed to a humbucker.
I think humbuckers look good with mounting rings, but I've never seen an acceptable looking single coil mount that doesn't involve it going through a pickguard (or Tele bridge).
I would be more interested in that mounting for a single coil (P90's notwithstanding), as opposed to a humbucker.
I think humbuckers look good with mounting rings, but I've never seen an acceptable looking single coil mount that doesn't involve it going through a pickguard (or Tele bridge).
Agileguy_101
Master of his Domain
Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
I think you'd need custom bobbins made. I dunno who'd be willing to do single coils like that - sounds like a PITA.
It'd look really, really nice though. That's why I don't want a rear routed SSS strat - I think they look ugly without the pickguard to hide the bottom part of the bobbin.
I think you'd need custom bobbins made. I dunno who'd be willing to do single coils like that - sounds like a PITA.
It'd look really, really nice though. That's why I don't want a rear routed SSS strat - I think they look ugly without the pickguard to hide the bottom part of the bobbin.
RorySquier
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Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
I wasn't ridiculing your post! I happen to agree with it. I'm only adding my dry, twisted humour, that's all.:stooges: Don't be so sensitive, my friend.:crying::friday:
I wasn't ridiculing your post! I happen to agree with it. I'm only adding my dry, twisted humour, that's all.:stooges: Don't be so sensitive, my friend.:crying::friday:
jumble jumble
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Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
I think we're just arguing semantics here. We all know how mics and pickups work, after all. But you can't use a guitar pickup to turn changes in sound pressure into an electric signal, which is exactly what a microphone does. It's more like the other way around - a microphone is a guitar pickup with an extra bit added on. A guitar pickup turns disturbance of a magnetic field into voltage changes. A microphone changes sound waves into magnetic disturbances, and then from then on, yes, they work in the same way.
So I would say that saying a pickup is basically a mic isn't quite right, as a guitar pickup is like a broken mic. Or alternatively, we could say that a guitar pickup is a microphone, and so is a turntable stylus, and so is an earphone (you can plug an earphone into a mic socket and use it to record voice!). But then if I said "has anyone got a microphone I can borrow" and someone gave me a Blackout, saying it was "basically a microphone", I think we all agree that person would be being a bit difficult.
The primary job of a microphone is to convert sound waves into electricity. Not only is this not what magnetic guitar pickups do, but a majority of them are built in such a way as to specifically prevent them from doing so.
I don't really see the value in insisting that a pickup is a microphone, unless it is to avoid admitting being wrong on the internet, which I will agree is a noble cause. After all, nobody would want to be the first.
Yeah, let's say my "intent" or "purpose" is recording some vocals... oh snap.
I think we're just arguing semantics here. We all know how mics and pickups work, after all. But you can't use a guitar pickup to turn changes in sound pressure into an electric signal, which is exactly what a microphone does. It's more like the other way around - a microphone is a guitar pickup with an extra bit added on. A guitar pickup turns disturbance of a magnetic field into voltage changes. A microphone changes sound waves into magnetic disturbances, and then from then on, yes, they work in the same way.
So I would say that saying a pickup is basically a mic isn't quite right, as a guitar pickup is like a broken mic. Or alternatively, we could say that a guitar pickup is a microphone, and so is a turntable stylus, and so is an earphone (you can plug an earphone into a mic socket and use it to record voice!). But then if I said "has anyone got a microphone I can borrow" and someone gave me a Blackout, saying it was "basically a microphone", I think we all agree that person would be being a bit difficult.
The primary job of a microphone is to convert sound waves into electricity. Not only is this not what magnetic guitar pickups do, but a majority of them are built in such a way as to specifically prevent them from doing so.
I don't really see the value in insisting that a pickup is a microphone, unless it is to avoid admitting being wrong on the internet, which I will agree is a noble cause. After all, nobody would want to be the first.
Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
Oh, please. If you're going to correct someone, do it well. A microphone doesn't 'detect' or react to changes in sound pressure, but in changes in AIR PRESSURE.
Ok. and conversly, a pickup IS a microphone. It works the same. It's like saying a diesel engine isn't an engine because it reacts differently with the fuel than a petrol engine. Or a motorboat isn't a real boat because the means of propellant aren't muscle power or wind.
Oh, please. If you're going to correct someone, do it well. A microphone doesn't 'detect' or react to changes in sound pressure, but in changes in AIR PRESSURE.
Ok. and conversly, a pickup IS a microphone. It works the same. It's like saying a diesel engine isn't an engine because it reacts differently with the fuel than a petrol engine. Or a motorboat isn't a real boat because the means of propellant aren't muscle power or wind.
jumble jumble
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Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
mi·cro·phone
n.
An instrument that converts sound waves into an electric current, usually fed into an amplifier, a recorder, or a broadcast transmitter.
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Because, you know, underwater microphones are still microphones?
Let me get this straight: I have to admit that a guitar pickup "is a" microphone, even though speaking into a guitar pickup has no effect - but if I mention "sound waves" you're going to correct me on that and insist I talk about changes in air pressure instead? Even though microphones can be made to pick up sound waves through any medium, so it wouldn't even be correct to limit it to air pressure?
I mean, if I have to accept "a guitar pickup is basically a microphone", can't you manage to accept "a sound wave is basically a change in air pressure"? That's what sound is - the word "sound" is just shorthand for that concept. "Sound is a mechanical wave that is an oscillation of pressure transmitted through a solid, liquid, or gas, composed of frequencies within the range of hearing." There's no way of pickiing up "sound" that doesn't involve picking up compression waves because they are exactly the same thing.
[Actually the only reason I didn't say "changes in air pressure" was because I didn't want some smart-ass to come along and point out that you can get underwater microphones.]
Not to mention the fact that now you've described what a microphone does - picking up compression waves in some medium, usually air - you've basically proved that a pickup isn't a microphone, because it doesn't do that. It picks up magnetic field disturbances.
Your analogy is flawed. It's more like you're saying a rowboat is basically a motorboat, because they both float and carry people.
By all means, though, carry on insisting that a magnetic pickup is a microphone. Because they "work the same". A condenser microphone doesn't work like a guitar pickup. Carbon mics don't work like guitar pickups. Piezoelectric microphones don't work like guitar pickups. See also: fiber optic microphones, laser microphones.
If we're deciding that what makes something a "microphone" is the use of electromagnetic induction, then all those types of microphones I just listed are now no longer "microphones" but something else. Gets awkward. Can we not agree that a microphone turns pressure waves into and electric signal, and a pickup turns magnetic field disturbances into the same?
Or to put it another way, a guitar pickup shares some characteristics with some types of microphone, without actually being a microphone. Like how a rowboat shares some characteristics with a motorboat, without actually being a motorboat.
That's brilliant, you're correcting me by saying microphones don't pick up sound, but air pressure changes. Let's see:
mi·cro·phone
n.
An instrument that converts sound waves into an electric current, usually fed into an amplifier, a recorder, or a broadcast transmitter.
---
Because, you know, underwater microphones are still microphones?
Let me get this straight: I have to admit that a guitar pickup "is a" microphone, even though speaking into a guitar pickup has no effect - but if I mention "sound waves" you're going to correct me on that and insist I talk about changes in air pressure instead? Even though microphones can be made to pick up sound waves through any medium, so it wouldn't even be correct to limit it to air pressure?
I mean, if I have to accept "a guitar pickup is basically a microphone", can't you manage to accept "a sound wave is basically a change in air pressure"? That's what sound is - the word "sound" is just shorthand for that concept. "Sound is a mechanical wave that is an oscillation of pressure transmitted through a solid, liquid, or gas, composed of frequencies within the range of hearing." There's no way of pickiing up "sound" that doesn't involve picking up compression waves because they are exactly the same thing.
[Actually the only reason I didn't say "changes in air pressure" was because I didn't want some smart-ass to come along and point out that you can get underwater microphones.]
Not to mention the fact that now you've described what a microphone does - picking up compression waves in some medium, usually air - you've basically proved that a pickup isn't a microphone, because it doesn't do that. It picks up magnetic field disturbances.
Your analogy is flawed. It's more like you're saying a rowboat is basically a motorboat, because they both float and carry people.
By all means, though, carry on insisting that a magnetic pickup is a microphone. Because they "work the same". A condenser microphone doesn't work like a guitar pickup. Carbon mics don't work like guitar pickups. Piezoelectric microphones don't work like guitar pickups. See also: fiber optic microphones, laser microphones.
If we're deciding that what makes something a "microphone" is the use of electromagnetic induction, then all those types of microphones I just listed are now no longer "microphones" but something else. Gets awkward. Can we not agree that a microphone turns pressure waves into and electric signal, and a pickup turns magnetic field disturbances into the same?
Or to put it another way, a guitar pickup shares some characteristics with some types of microphone, without actually being a microphone. Like how a rowboat shares some characteristics with a motorboat, without actually being a motorboat.
jumble jumble
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Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
Are you saying condenser microphones DO work like guitar pickups?
Or are you just incapable of showing any of my points to be wrong?
EDIT: When you resort to calling me names rather than engaging with my points, you've lost the argument.
EDIT AGAIN: I just want to sum up on what we agree on.
1. A microphone is a device for converting pressure waves (sound) into an electrical signal.
2. A guitar pickup is not a device for converting pressure waves (sound) into an electrical signal.
If we just leave it at that, maybe we can all be happy.
Are you saying condenser microphones DO work like guitar pickups?
Or are you just incapable of showing any of my points to be wrong?
EDIT: When you resort to calling me names rather than engaging with my points, you've lost the argument.
EDIT AGAIN: I just want to sum up on what we agree on.
1. A microphone is a device for converting pressure waves (sound) into an electrical signal.
2. A guitar pickup is not a device for converting pressure waves (sound) into an electrical signal.
If we just leave it at that, maybe we can all be happy.
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RorySquier
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Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
I think jumble jumble & orpheo both have some good points. It's only when you get into the details of a guitar pick up and microphone, you see more of the differences. Hell, there are even differences amongst guitar pick ups themselves. And there are different types of microphones also like condenser, etc. You guys can get into the knit-picking of it all, but I have a suggestion for both of you fellows, and that's a nice cup of...
I think jumble jumble & orpheo both have some good points. It's only when you get into the details of a guitar pick up and microphone, you see more of the differences. Hell, there are even differences amongst guitar pick ups themselves. And there are different types of microphones also like condenser, etc. You guys can get into the knit-picking of it all, but I have a suggestion for both of you fellows, and that's a nice cup of...
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Edgecrusher
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Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
Did you read what he said? I cant see where anything he said is incorrect. Why be a knob to him?
Did you read what he said? I cant see where anything he said is incorrect. Why be a knob to him?
stevie_bees
Cat In The Hatministrator
Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
Can we agree that they're both electroacoustic transducers???
Can we agree that they're both electroacoustic transducers???
ratherdashing
Kablamminator
Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
This is easily the dumbest argument I've ever seen on here, and that's saying a lot.
Besides, you're both wrong. Microphones detect the unearthly screams of ancient ghosts and transform them into electrical impulses. The ghosts just happen to be singing and playing exactly what you are.
This is easily the dumbest argument I've ever seen on here, and that's saying a lot.
Besides, you're both wrong. Microphones detect the unearthly screams of ancient ghosts and transform them into electrical impulses. The ghosts just happen to be singing and playing exactly what you are.
RorySquier
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Re: humbucker mounting: how did he do it? (Roman content)
I ain't afraid of no ghost!: popworm:
I ain't afraid of no ghost!: popworm:
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