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Empty Pockets said:
this thread is hilarious
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It's become hilarious, lol. Didn't mean for it to become a "this vs. that" thread, but I guess it has turned into it. That's not really what I wanted to convey.

The original point was not as much " Gibson has it more than PRS!", but rather " Now on top of understanding PRS guitars, I totally get why people like Gibsons!".
 
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blueman335 said:
they were designed to be cheap to build. Leo...put a lot of effort into cutting corners... 90% of the guitarists I hear that play SSS Strats sound tinny and shrill...It's much easier to get a good tone with a Gibson
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WHAT?!?!!!???

I never knew you felt this way!
 
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misterwhizzy said:
Bill, I have to take exception with this. It's like saying, "My car can run over nails better than yours!" It's not supposed to happen. It doesn't make one a better instrument.
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Let me put it this way....I was at a gig about ten years ago and one of the people we were playing for approached us as we were leaving the stage on break....he tripped on my cable and my Strat fell out of the stand, face down, on a concrete floor. I picked it up and super glued the nut back together...finished the gig.

On another occasion my friend borrowed my Tele and through some very weird circumstances it got ran over by a car while in a soft gig bag. It lost a little paint and I had to adjust the truss rod...but survived pretty much unscathed.

I like your car analogy.....A fender is built more like a WW II Jeep...no frills and tough.

How many busted headstocks have you seen on Fender style guitars versus Gibson style guitars?

Phil....Sorry about the hijack and I am done ranting.....I am very happy you dig your SG and I hope it continues to have the magic for you....it is a great thing to find "that guitar"!
 
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This thread is a waste of time becuz everyone knows the best made, the best looking, and the best sounding guitar is Gibson's ES335.

:naughty:

sprinkle that on your cereal. :14:
 
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I hardly ever see anything other than local bands these days and if I walk into a pub/club and see a Strat on the guitar stand I know I'm not likely to enjoy myself. They never sound good, ever. If I see a Gibson I figure the guitarist is halfway to getting a good sound. Bridge pickup Gibson = fat, punchy, warm. Bridge pickup Strat = thin, shrill, screechy. There's another thread with vids of Eric Clapton playing a 335 and it is just SO much better than his Strat sound. Although I've been playing and gigging for 35 years I haven't owned a great many guitars (but I've played hundreds). A guitar has to speak to me and Strats never do, nor do PRS's and I've spent a fair amount of time with some really expensive ones. First guitar I've bought in 15 years is a Gibson Firebird Studio that just has IT in spades. I wouldn't trade it for a PRS costing ten times as much. I'd like to say that I can appreciate why some people like the sound of Strats but I honestly can't. Fender is a disease, Gibson is the cure.
 
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richard parker said:
I hardly ever see anything other than local bands these days and if I walk into a pub/club and see a Strat on the guitar stand I know I'm not likely to enjoy myself. They never sound good, ever. If I see a Gibson I figure the guitarist is halfway to getting a good sound. Bridge pickup Gibson = fat, punchy, warm. Bridge pickup Strat = thin, shrill, screechy. There's another thread with vids of Eric Clapton playing a 335 and it is just SO much better than his Strat sound. Although I've been playing and gigging for 35 years I haven't owned a great many guitars (but I've played hundreds). A guitar has to speak to me and Strats never do, nor do PRS's and I've spent a fair amount of time with some really expensive ones. First guitar I've bought in 15 years is a Gibson Firebird Studio that just has IT in spades. I wouldn't trade it for a PRS costing ten times as much. I'd like to say that I can appreciate why some people like the sound of Strats but I honestly can't. Fender is a disease, Gibson is the cure.
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Thank you for your opinion.
 
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I think its a good idea to have a diverse group of axes, something different for every situation, different inspirations. I have a pretty diverse batch right now... HSS Mike Lipe Virtuoso, PRS Mccarty, vintage Gibson SG, customized Ibanez RG1570... I want a 7 stringer, ES335 type and an LP to round out the heard next and then who knows from there...
 
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Many people bash Strats, and say LPs are gods guitars. You simply cant get that cool inbetween tone on an LP/type like you can with a fender on songs like lenny, little wing and what not. different tools for different jobs. People say strats are thin, it's all in the setup/rig. a strat with 9 gauge strings thorugh a blues jr and a bad is gonna sound thin no matter who you are, simple math. put on 10s or 11s and get a close back 212 and a marshall head and you've got a thick tone. all guitars can sound thin or thick and all vary from one to another and by user.
 
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richard parker said:
Blahblahblah...Fender is a disease, Gibson is the cure.
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Let's consider a world where Fenders never existed...

Without Fender, Gibson would never have made the first LP or the SG/V/Explorer/etc. They'd only be making fat ass hollow bodies and banjos/mandolins.

Without Fender, the electric bass wouldn't have been a major force in the development of music as we know it today. Without the electric solid body bass, the volume levels would never have gotten as high as they have.

Without Fender, the amps that make LPs sound best would not exist.

Without Fender, Rock and Roll itself might not exist.

You and BM335 seeing a pattern, here?


Phil...glad you're loving the SG. :friday:
 
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without fender or gibson someone else would have eventually come up with great electric guitars and amps. and that statement is definitely *not* meant to take anything away from the genuis of les paul or leo fender.
 
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guitfiddle said:
Let's consider a world where Fenders never existed...Without Fender, Gibson would never have made the first LP or the SG/V/Explorer/etc. They'd only be making fat ass hollow bodies and banjos/mandolins.

Without Fender, the electric bass wouldn't have been a major force in the development of music as we know it today. Without the electric solid body bass, the volume levels would never have gotten as high as they have.

Without Fender, the amps that make LPs sound best would not exist. Without Fender, Rock and Roll itself might not exist.
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Leo didn't invent solid body guitars, he popularized them. Other solids existed, and Les Paul was promoting the idea long before the Tele debuted. A solid body bass would have followed from that. There were guitar amplifiers in existence as Leo was making his. This is low tech stuff that many people were working on and the developments would have come regardless. The only thing different would have been who and when, and many developments were happening concurrently. Maybe the Gold Top Les Paul would have come out a year or two later without the Tele.

In the mid 1950's, most rock n roll and blues were played on Gibsons and similar brands (think Chuck Berry, Bill Haley, Ike Turner, BB King, Albert King, T Bone Walker, Otis Rush, Howlin' Wolf, etc), and country music was big on twangy Fenders. When you look at the Bitish invasion that dominated American rock n roll in the early & mid 1960's, there were a lot of Gibsons, especially 335's. Rock n roll was taking over and Fender guitars were not leading the charge. It wasn't until Hendrix that the Stat was shown to be a heavy rock n roll instrument. From 1950 to the mid '60's, Fender did as much or more for country than rock n roll. He helped in the creation of good music on one hand, and on the other was an integral part of the development of the most insidious and devsatating genre known to man: country. A mixed blessing at best.
 
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Blueman335 said:
Rock n roll was taking over and Fender guitars were not leading the charge.
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Buddy Holly led the charge for the masses, and he used a Strat.

Anyway, the point is that Leo made the P-bass. That, above all of the solid body guitar designs ever thought up by ANY company, was THE foundation of Rock and Roll, so, yeah, Fender was leading the charge.

/highjack
 
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all you pussies with your short-scale guitars, light strings and screaming P90 feedback crack me up.

:opcorn:
 
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and seriously, WTF is sooo good about SGs?! they sound like a duck
 
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Without Fender, Gibson would never have sold the piss out of all those Les Pauls when people heard Led Zeppelin I
 
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P.S. to the OP- glad you are enjoing your SG bro! Over the years they have become my fave Gibson tone.
 
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