I have a serious idea about basswood-bridge/fulcrum stability-permanent quick fix

[SJ318]

Hi,
Getting a Squire deluxe because it is basswood w/a TWO-POINT fulcrum. My back needs light guitars. Chambered is not light enough once the electronics are added.
Issue.... basswood is soft of course and I was warned about the studs shifting from spring/string tension.
my fix idea... around the threaded stud that is already inside the basswood, I see no reason, including tone, why I can't strengthen the whole area with brand new super glue which I know for a fact will soak into the wood far enough before it hardens. Quite far actually. and with the guitar in a stand so headstock is closet to the ceiling, reinforce the exposed FRONT part of the wood where the stud is close to, where it is cut so the bridge pickup (SC or HB) can sit in the guitar, just let that part get some fresh super glue to soak in.
Regular types of glue are great for neck joining but don't have the ability to soak in far enough. * Why would that not work? I see no reason it would not work. And as the wood is all part of one big body the spread of sound vibration should still follow it's normal path throughout the guitar as it normally would, just like vibrations travel from glued in neck to body-Gibson,etc.
If I am wrong tell me why. Feel free to poke fun if I am wrong. I welcome it-if I am wrong. This I propose could be used on hard tail basswood tele's plate screw holes for the same reason. To refresh, the salient point is that only super glue can soak in fast enough and far enough before it dries. Pulling the stud out and painting the inside of the stud hole is just a giant messy pain. No?
Steve Buffington

 

[dominus]

Re: I have a serious idea about basswood-bridge/fulcrum stability-permanent quick fix

Get an anchor:

 

[SJ318]

Re: I have a serious idea about basswood-bridge/fulcrum stability-permanent quick fix

Hey, dominus,
That is very cool. Never seen one before. It fits all squires & strats I hope? It looks as though it would not interfere with the 2 point plate, but do you need to take any wood off the guitar? I am just now looking at my own Warmoth strat and the front of my plate on a down push would most definetly hit the bar. I would have to remove wood so the connecting bar sat a little lower. Cool idea. I will look it up and it must be on youtube by now (ugh).
But my point about the super glue still remains unanswered, unresponded to. However, I must thank you for taking the time to respond as I appreciate that you put thought into it.
Thank you
Steve

 

[Pierre]

Re: I have a serious idea about basswood-bridge/fulcrum stability-permanent quick fix

I've never heard of this being an issue on Basswood guitar. I've only had one (a Charvel M4) and it's certainly never had anything like this happen. It wasn't a 'light' guitar either although there heavier ones.
I simply wouldn't worry about it; can't let speculations ruin the fun of guitar shopping

 

[KeeperOS]

Re: I have a serious idea about basswood-bridge/fulcrum stability-permanent quick fix

Pretty much all Ibanez RGs are Basswood, don't believe I've ever heard of them having issues with their (Floyd) posts. Their Wizard necks now, that's a different thing...

 

[dominus]

Re: I have a serious idea about basswood-bridge/fulcrum stability-permanent quick fix

Hey, dominus,
That is very cool. Never seen one before. It fits all squires & strats I hope? It looks as though it would not interfere with the 2 point plate, but do you need to take any wood off the guitar? I am just now looking at my own Warmoth strat and the front of my plate on a down push would most definetly hit the bar. I would have to remove wood so the connecting bar sat a little lower. Cool idea. I will look it up and it must be on youtube by now (ugh).
But my point about the super glue still remains unanswered, unresponded to. However, I must thank you for taking the time to respond as I appreciate that you put thought into it.

Actually, it's for a Floyd and it looks like it wouldn't work. I thought the spacing on the inserts would be the same but it's WAY off. (I just checked one of those anchors against a Squier Standard.)

Do you absolutely have to have a two point trem? GFS has Paulownia bodies that end up being about a pound and a half, but that's much softer than basswood and I can't see using a two point system on them.

 

[AlexR]

Re: I have a serious idea about basswood-bridge/fulcrum stability-permanent quick fix

Yeah, there are a lot of basswood shredsticks floating about that don't seem to have those issues.

I'm assuming the body isn't finished...I mean its the wood around the bridge inserts you want to be doing this to, and you won't get any meaningful result unless you apply the glue to the wood within 1/16 of the insert and let it soak down from the top of the guitar.

 

[SJ318]

Re: I have a serious idea about basswood-bridge/fulcrum stability-permanent quick fix

Acually,
It is a Squire Deluxe w/a basswood body, and the 2point fulcrum. I very much like the way they work, the stud notch and the sharp 2 point holes on the plate move so precicely together, very easy to get both points the same or equal with the plate holes. So Alex, I already bought it last week, I know Beck uses a 2point trem w/abasswood body, but have no idea if his is strengthed at the studs. Did not know there many basswood guitars at all out there. That makes me sort of a dumb sh*t as that is what I am after!
Dominus-I am completely with you on the lighter body you mentioned. Basswood is as soft as I dare go. Also, to all, please forgive my constant use of Jeff Beck as a trem player example all the time, but for me he is as wild on the bar as anyone but tastefull EVEN when doing a dive bomb. So that's why I always use him. Old guys know him, and I think even young guys must know him from his frequent guesting on Claton's Crossroads events!
So, i guess no thoughts on my original post, so unless any one cares to address that, I thank you all for chiming in.
Much appreciated,
SJB

 

[daan]

Re: I have a serious idea about basswood-bridge/fulcrum stability-permanent quick fix

You could always just dowel the 2-point holes shut and convert it to a 6-screw vintage style. And I've had basswood guitars that didn't have issues, but I have had soft plywood bodies have bridge posts shift. You also could drill out a bigger area where the studs go, glue in something harder (maple?) and re-drill the 2-point studs back in the stock location. Or just play it the way it is, until something breaks, which is kinda unlikely unless you're REALLY abusing your trem. The. You're gonna want a Floyd anyway...


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[SJ318]

Re: I have a serious idea about basswood-bridge/fulcrum stability-permanent quick fix

Thanks daan,
Not a floyd kinda guy. Glad to hear everyone telling me basswood is tough enough.
But I must say, about your last comment, I can only repeat what my ex-wife woud say: Charmed, I'm sure.
I'm just glad we both know you meant it as a sign of respect.
S buffington