I want to cry: first Blackface experience

[Pierre]

A super reverb. The owner said it was a 68. I played it today with a US Texas Tele and I'll be Frenched if I'd never played as good in my life. The clean sound was just so nice...Absolutely unbelievable.

I hear that Silverface Super Reverbs are pretty much the same..? Is it that true?

 

[Rich_S]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

Early silverface Fenders are. Actually, if it's a 68, it should be first-year sleverface with the aluminum trim around the speaker grill, but maybe there were some left-over blackfaces in 68.

Later silverface Fenders had changes to the circuit (which can be undone by "blackfacing"), and changes to the cabinet (chip board, non-floating baffles) which are harder to fix.

 

[Pierre]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

That's what I thought. I told him it'd be pre 67 or 67 and he said 68 were the last year.
But wow either way it sounded absolutely brilliant. And that was at low volume too!

The amp was not as loud as I'd have expected to be either! But the clean sound is just the best I ever heard. So rich...

 

[jeremy]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

63-67 for the black

if its that old it probably needs filter caps which might influence the volume

a super is a beautiful thing, to get it to break up it needs to be turned up pretty good and typically thatll be pretty loud.

 

[Bludave]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

Early silverface Fenders are. Actually, if it's a 68, it should be first-year sleverface with the aluminum trim around the speaker grill, but maybe there were some left-over blackfaces in 68.

Later silverface Fenders had changes to the circuit (which can be undone by "blackfacing"), and changes to the cabinet (chip board, non-floating baffles) which are harder to fix.

I have a drip edge Super from '68. I have a matching Deluxe too. I agree the early silvers are as good and in certain cases better than some BF Fenders I have played. As long as they don't have a Master Volume your good to go. Blacfacing these silvers is always a good thing to do.

 

[Bludave]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

63-67 for the black

if its that old it probably needs filter caps which might influence the volume

a super is a beautiful thing, to get it to break up it needs to be turned up pretty good and typically thatll be pretty loud.

:dance::dance:

 

[Gunny47]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

A Super will probably be my next amp, vintage too. I have an eye on 2 66s and a 65, theyre just sick amps!

 

[CapoFirstFret]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

I'm thinking about snagging a second super and have a sick as hell stage setup (even when I'm only playing into one) but on those shows where I play into two amps, man that'd be SO SICK!

 

[Scott_F]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

It's just a classic circuit. Hard to go wrong.

 

[Curly]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

definitely one of the best club amps ever, and equally as good with humbuckers as single coils

 

[TheArchitect]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

A super reverb. The owner said it was a 68. I played it today with a US Texas Tele and I'll be Frenched if I'd never played as good in my life. The clean sound was just so nice...Absolutely unbelievable.

I hear that Silverface Super Reverbs are pretty much the same..? Is it that true?

The early silverfaces probably are. A 68 silverface is a possibility. One indicator would include the word "amp" on the face plate as in "Super Reverb Amp" vs "Super Reverb". These are all general guidelines. They changed circuits at different times on different amps. Only way to really know is open it up and look

 

[jeremy]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

usually 68 and 69 supers are still good years

 

[mad dog]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

With the SR in good tune, and the right tubes and speakers, you should have no problems being heard. If it sounds right to you, then that's the one. Who knows, it might need caps. Also, some of those wonderful CTS alnicos are getting pretty tired now. None of this is major stuff. They're great amps.

 

[CapoFirstFret]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

I've got a 1970/1971 Super Reverb that sounds like GOD and I'd love to have another one, and then blackface them, and then put them on stage together, and just look at them and wash myself in the aura of amazing tone producing machines. Then I'd plug them in, and play in stereo with some tremolo and a healthy dose of reverb...then i would die because no one should know what God's voice sounds like on earth, and unfortunately, that's exactly what two Blackface Super Reverbs in stereo would sound like

 

[75lespaul]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

I've got a 1970/1971 Super Reverb that sounds like GOD and I'd love to have another one, and then blackface them, and then put them on stage together, and just look at them and wash myself in the aura of amazing tone producing machines. Then I'd plug them in, and play in stereo with some tremolo and a healthy dose of reverb...then i would die because no one should know what God's voice sounds like on earth, and unfortunately, that's exactly what two Blackface Super Reverbs in stereo would sound like

ditto :friday:

 

[Pierre]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

I wish there was a simple head version of the Super...
Just the 2 inputs, no vibrato... 3 band EQ, master volume, preamp volume... This way if you want the vintage way of doing things, whack the MV and use the preamp volume as the old style Volume... and connect it to any cabs...:32:

It's a fairly simple circuit if you break it down to one channel without effect right?

 

[ES350]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

I wish there was a simple head version of the Super...
Just the 2 inputs, no vibrato... 3 band EQ, master volume, preamp volume... This way if you want the vintage way of doing things, whack the MV and use the preamp volume as the old style Volume... and connect it to any cabs...:32:

It's a fairly simple circuit if you break it down to one channel without effect right?

That and more has all been done bezillion times with all kinds of BF/SF Fenders over the last 40 years and the upshot is----tadaaaa---
those circuits sound best, for what they do best, relatively unmolested.

 

[Scott_F]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

That and more has all been done bezillion times with all kinds of BF/SF Fenders over the last 40 years and the upshot is----tadaaaa---
those circuits sound best, for what they do best, relatively unmolested.

Word. Everyone wants to make them better ,but most tweaks screw it up. My favorite tweaks are adding a deep switch and also a switch to take the tone stack out of the path (acts as a boost). but, that's about it.

 

[Pierre]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

Oh I thought a simple MV wouldn't matter much to the sound...? Especially when you have it on 10 you'd have no resistance from the pot so it'd be like not having it at all? Otherwise I just want the vibrato channel channel, but without the vibrato basically.

 

[TimmyPage]

Re: I want to cry: first Blackface experience

Last time I tried one, I had the same response.. I needed it.. I would have killed the shop owners for it.