i'm sooooo angry

[spacecaptain21]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

I know how that feels bro. There are always ways to explain though.

1.) Don't be a jerk about it. If you scream and kick and whine about the fact that you want something, or get really flippent and pissed off, you're far less likely to get the amp. I'm not saying you ARE doing these things, just something to watch out for.

2.) If you bought it with your money, I don't really see the say that she has in it. Your money, not hers. If it was a gift from your parents then maybe she has a little bit of a point. That may sound inpolite, but it's really the truth.

Another stance to take is that a better amp that you'll enjoy more will make you play more, thus get better. Music is a GOOD thing in almost every case; what parent doesn't wanna see their kid shine or excel at something? May sound like some really far-streched logic, but it IS the truth.

+1 to JeffB too. Step into a room of intelligent players with a JCM, you're far more likely to get more respect then with the Nomad (Says the guy with the Peavey!!). Sad, but true.

Hope that helps your situation. I know that it ain't easy. Best of luck.

 

[75lespaul]

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If you did use your own money (which I don't think was clarified), why don't you ask her VERY nicely to just read these posts?

If that doesn't work, you could just break down and cry. I did that once with my mom. Got the ****e beat out of me. Maybe it'll work for you though. She felt so good after she whupped my azz that I got what I wanted, hee hee. (true story?). :laugh2:

 

[SoCalSteve]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

they are all great ideas i did try to talk to her, all she does gets angry and just says "nope, i'm not even going to talk with you". what right do you have to dictate what kind of gear i get when you know hardly anything about guitars, resale value or tone. i hate it when she's close-minded like this

I don't know what your deal is, if you go to school or work or whatever but try writing her a letter and give it to her to read when you're going somewhere for a few hours. It will give her time to dwell on it when you're not around and she might soften up. Give it a try.

 

[cream123]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

I don't know what your deal is, if you go to school or work or whatever but try writing her a letter and give it to her to read when you're going somewhere for a few hours. It will give her time to dwell on it when you're not around and she might soften up. Give it a try.

actually that is exactly what i'm gonna do. i've got it all typed up, i've got "testimonials" by olin music and by part of jeffb's
yes i did buy it with my own money and i'm not old enough to have a job, people frown upon breaking child labor laws

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[Erlend_G]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

Isn't it kinda cheesy to give your mom and dad a letter with testimonials from the internet?

 

[Erlend_G]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

Anyway, i understand what you mean. I've gone trough almost the same stuff with my mom, when i bought a EBS NEO-212 bass cab for about $2000... luckily i managed to return it to the shop later, but my mom weren't happy at all.

I learnt a lesson though... from that day i've never bought anything unless i were completely happy with it!

I wish you good luck,
-Erlend

 

[pinto79]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

Good luck man. Any JCM800 is better than any Mesa. Hands down. If you can make this happen, I predict many tonefull days ahead.

 

[cream123]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

Isn't it kinda cheesy to give your mom and dad a letter with testimonials from the internet?

not when they are credible people like jeffb and olin music
hey whatever works ya know.

i also edited the letter a bit, i didn't think it was to the point.

i'm not "soooooo angry" anymore, i still haven't gotten her to agree though

 

[lpmarshall]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

I've had both the Nomad and the 2210, and I'd recommend the 2210 anyday. Best of luck with the whole situation.

 

[cream123]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

thanks for all the nice words and ideas my mom's at wally world right now getting paper and i've got it all made up, im gonna make a cover and staple it up booklet style .

 

[cream123]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

well i just put the packet/letter on her bed with the cover that has a pic of the amp, the price, the name, and the words: PLEASE DON’T RIP THIIS UP!
BE OPEN-MINDED AND SLEEP ON IT!

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

Yes, return the Nomad before the store won't allow it. Parlay the money into the Marshall. The Nomad series is one of Mesa's flops. It has a strange midrange quality to it, and the amp has so much compression that it doesn't have an open natural sound to it. A huge number of Nomad buyers either returned them to Mesa or sold them soon after buying them.

True story - I got an advance from a management co. one time, and thought I'd buy a Nomad 100 head, since it looked great on paper. I brought it into my rehearsal room, and as soon as the band played one set, they all looked at it, and said "return it, that thing sounds terrible compared to your regular amps."
The regular amps were a Marshall and Blues Pearl Deluxe Reverb copy.

 

[ratherdashing]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

Good luck man. Any JCM800 is better than any Mesa. Hands down.

I would put the Mark II and Mark III up against any JCM800 any day!

 

[Scott_F]

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Somewhere in all this, I wonder what Mom's side of this tale is....

 

[OlinMusic]

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Yeah, what is mom's side?

As much as mom has a side - when I think of my parents, that are more impressed that I do research and invest wisely than anything else. That's the best lifelong lesson anyone can ever learn - RICH DAD POOR DAD, ANYONE? (Cream, feel free to reference that book)

 

[cream123]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

i see where she is coming from and chops you're probably right, i am a tidge spoiled as far as amps go. mom's side is that i should realize the consequences of my decisions before i make the dicision. well a 1000 dollar amp is neither the time nor the place. i don't just recieve these things out of the blue, i save up my iwn money this one took me close to a year and i'm not gonna let that go in vain
also, is there a 50 watt version of this same amp, i learned that i DON'T need 100 watts

 

[sosomething]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

Easy, bro! Different people, different backgrounds! Logic still applies - just because you didn't have a lot of money growing up doesn't mean someone else isn't entitled to a little rational thinking.

Oh well?! You just struck a nerve kiddo. You aren't old enough to have a job and you own a Mesa? I couldn't afford my own guitar until I was 18 and working full time, and it was used! I bought a used Marshall AVT275 about a month later. About a month after that, I was able to afford a case. Only this year was I able to buy my first amp head! I was borrowing other band members gear and renting my own when I needed to.

I don't know how old you are, but when I was under the legal working age I was laying down drywall and working construction in a house I lived in with no kitchen at the time!

You worked construction at an age where you had no bills and no monetary obligations and you couldn't afford an amp head until age 21? What did they pay you with, candy?

You're lucky to have a mom that would even allow you to play guitar, let alone buy an amp like that. Who cares if it was your money? Do you live at home? Are you under 18? Then you have no rights when it comes to ownership of anything.

He's lucky to be allowed to play guitar? Where are we, Cambodia?? Unless a parent has serious psychological issues I would think that any kid would be encouraged to pursue a musical instrument. I too am curious about the mother's side of things but, as the story has been presented to me, I don't see anything wrong with letting the guy invest his gear money any way he sees fit. I'd be proud of him for doing the research and knowing the better investment, even if it meant I had to drive him back to the music store.

Writing a letter? I'd love to hear your mom's side of it. I'm seeing this as you asked her to drive you to the store after convicing her that you needed the amp and that you wouldn't play it too loud. Then you have the gall to ask her to drive you back across town because the amp you were so sure was "it" wasn't after all.

I'd hate to be your kid when you finally get as grown up as you think you are.

 

[cream123]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

i was gonna say somethingalong those lines
i just didn't want to get any1 angry

 

[El Dorado]

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[/QUOTE] I'd hate to be your kid when you finally get as grown up as you think you are.[/QUOTE]

Ditto that. Kids should be encouraged to play an instrument. I worked as a teenager too, but my parents giving me a place to live was not a privelage. Parents are required by law, and if you don't agree you shouldn't be havin kids.

 

[cream123]

Re: i'm sooooo angry

this might take a few days for her to decide, keep posting but i will make another thread about it later