in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

Re: in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

a polarity tester might come in handy, but you don't need it.

when swapping the mags:
the narrow ends and the top and bottom should repel, the sides should attract.
if you mess this up in a humbucker it's not usually a big deal, as there's usually only 1 mag in there; if you do get it backwards, it and your other p/up will be out of phase together but only when they're both at the same volume; the same effect as using green for hot instead of black (and using black as ground). IMO an LP is a good guitar to do this with, as you have a volume control for each p/up.

i don't have a hair-dryer and YMMV, but i heat up the p/up's baseplate at each end and in the middle with the solder iron to melt the wax again, push it all together and tighten the bobbin screws. you can usually tell when it's heated up (10 seconds max) as the baseplate gets shiny

what does "out of phase" mean? how does an out of phase pickup sound different? never really understood it
 
Re: in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

it's like a 'hollowed-out' sound, and kind of thin; i really like it.
2 humbuckers out of phase with each other will still be hum-cancelling, and you can tweak one of the vol knobs to turn it off if you don't like it. it's much more pronounced when the 2 pickups' output is matched, too
 
Re: in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

is it possible to have such a hot pickup in the bridge like the dirty fingers and such a low output pickup like the A2P in the neck and still have a balanced sound? or would the output level between the two just be too much?

Dirty Fingers(bridge)- 3 ceramic magnets, 17.1k (i think)
A2Pro (neck)- 1 A2 magnet, 7.6k
 
Re: in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

hmm... not sure if there'd be too big a difference in volume...

you could fit them, they'd still work individually but might not blend that well; when one's that much hotter than the other, the 'both pickups on in parallel' position's sound is dominated by only one p/up...
but working around that is something else individual vol controls are good for ; ]
 
Re: in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

hmm... not sure if there'd be too big a difference in volume...

you could fit them, they'd still work individually but might not blend that well; when one's that much hotter than the other, the 'both pickups on in parallel' position's sound is dominated by only one p/up...
but working around that is something else individual vol controls are good for ; ]

ya i dont use the middle toggle position all that much. Im just talking about if Im playing with gain on in the bridge spot (dirty fingers) and then I switch to the neck (A2P). Since the DF is so hot, it wont require much gain to play rock as the A2P will. I know John Sykes played a DF in the bridge on his LP and a gibson ttop in the neck and it seemed to work for him.........:scratchch
 
Re: in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

Height has a huge effect on output and volume, lower the bridge and raise the neck until it is right.
Problem solved...
 
Re: in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

Height has a huge effect on output and volume, lower the bridge and raise the neck until it is right.
Problem solved...

tweaking is paramount; was just wondering if the DF's going to shout the A2P down altogether, p/ups with 3 ceramic mags generally have a lot of output...
 
Re: in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

tweaking is paramount; was just wondering if the DF's going to shout the A2P down altogether, p/ups with 3 ceramic mags generally have a lot of output...

Could be, but I assume if you had the the neck as high or higher than the bridge i can't imagine it completely overpower it...
 
Re: in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

Hold on.

You have a 496R?

@ about 9k and a ceramic magnet, this makes a great, hotter neck pickup.
It was designed to balance with the 500T, which is similar to the dirty fingers.

Try that first, since you already own it.
 
Re: in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

Height has a huge effect on output and volume, lower the bridge and raise the neck until it is right.
Problem solved...

Yes.

I have an A2Pro neck in a Jackson, along with a single coil in the middle and a Bill Lawrence USA 500XL bridge which is very hot.
It all meshes perfectly.

I also have a guitar with a Distortion bridge and two Fender single coils. Again, no issues with volume, it works perfectly if setup properly.

I posted a thread about this myth a while back, and people agreed with me - it's a myth.
 
Re: in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

so after dropping a gibson dirty fingers pickup in the bridge of my LP classic, I have found that the A2Pro i left in the neck in not hot enough to be paired with the DF. I need to find a hotter neck pickup that has similar tone to the A2Pro, just with more output (If there is one). I dont want to go with the '59 because I played one in my friends LP and it was WAY too dark and bassy. What I like about the A2Pro is that it has bass, but very little of it so it's not over powering. I like my neck pups a tadf on the brighter side. I dont play metal, just 80's hard rock and soft rock.....GN'R, Whitesnake, Van Halen type stuff.

thanks
chris

Hi Chris, I tried an Amber Classic Rock Humbucker with Alnico V magnets in my ´76 LP Custom and was totally satiesfied. Especially for your choice of music a great deal! This PU seriously delivers all that great classic rock tones! Together with good punchy neck PU you might also compete with a Strat when playing Hendrix stuff (no joke!).
Wolfgang Amber was the former CEO of Gibson/Germany, now creating a great line of PUs . Try:
www.amberpickups.com
Regards, Harry
 
Re: in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

Yes.

I have an A2Pro neck in a Jackson, along with a single coil in the middle and a Bill Lawrence USA 500XL bridge which is very hot.
It all meshes perfectly.

I also have a guitar with a Distortion bridge and two Fender single coils. Again, no issues with volume, it works perfectly if setup properly.

I posted a thread about this myth a while back, and people agreed with me - it's a myth.

that's good to know, they're good examples
 
Re: in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

is it possible to have such a hot pickup in the bridge like the dirty fingers and such a low output pickup like the A2P in the neck and still have a balanced sound? or would the output level between the two just be too much?

Dirty Fingers(bridge)- 3 ceramic magnets, 17.1k (i think)
A2Pro (neck)- 1 A2 magnet, 7.6k

Yes it is possible to have these two pickups balance just fine. It's all about how you have the height and polepieces adjusted. There's greater string motion at the neck pickup and thus a greater disturbance in the magnetic field so it's better to have lower output in the neck.

Don't be overly concerned about the 17k spec, it's a thinner gauge of wire so the DCR is a bit misleading. If it's 43 gauge, it would be roughly equivalent to a 12k pickup with 42 gauge. If it's 44 gauge, the 42 equivalent would be even lower, like 10k or so.
 
Re: in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

Yes it is possible to have these two pickups balance just fine. It's all about how you have the height and polepieces adjusted. There's greater string motion at the neck pickup and thus a greater disturbance in the magnetic field so it's better to have lower output in the neck.

Don't be overly concerned about the 17k spec, it's a thinner gauge of wire so the DCR is a bit misleading. If it's 43 gauge, it would be roughly equivalent to a 12k pickup with 42 gauge. If it's 44 gauge, the 42 equivalent would be even lower, like 10k or so.

what gauge wire does the dirty fingers have? Does the A2P have 42 gauge?
 
Re: in need of a hotter neck pickup. (LP content)

A2P's 42 AFAIK
don't know about the fingers
 
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