Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

[Sirion]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

Which tone? Breaking The Chains? Tooth and Nail? Under Lock and Key? BftA? They're all pretty different from one another, the first and last being the closest, even if not exact.

George made a mention of the pickup this is based on in the REH video of 1990, so it was certainly used on Wicked Sensation (in my opinion his best tones), and probably Back for the Attack. Possibly Under Lock and Key? This is based on the name alone, although I wouldn't consider it impossible to name a pickup after a song it wasn't used on.

 

[maestroberetta]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

I read somewhere about a story that Maricela Juarez wound a special pickup George in 1987 maybe that pickup was used in the BFTA recording and it sure is the Dokkenbucker. watch these videos [VIDEO] /www.seymourduncan.com/forum/showthread.php?260590-Dokken-Bucker"]http://https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?260590-Dokken-Bucker[/URL] https://forum.seymourduncan.com/...-Dokken-Bucker http://www.woodytone.com/2009/11/10/...-mirrors-gear/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kwAEMLrLFU

 

[Sirion]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

The WoodTone link is broken, but I've included it below:

http://www.woodytone.com/2009/11/10/george-lynchs-woody-smoke-mirrors-gear/

Note that he speaks of a particular humbucker. We cannot, at the moment, say for certain whether he had more of these made, if this is the one the Hunter pickup is based on, or if it was used on any recordings. It does, however, tell us that George was experimenting with alternative windings no later than the Aerosmith tour in 1987; my video clip is from that tour, and given the number of guitars George go through there, it seems reasonable to assume that at least one of them had such a pickup in it. It might be noteworthy that the guitar he used in the REH video was not used until 1988, according to his old website:

https://web.archive.org/web/20050111193952/http://www.georgelynch.com:80/guitars/purpletiger.html

I hope somebody can weigh in with more detail on the matter later.

 

[maestroberetta]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

The WoodTone link is broken, but I've included it below:

http://www.woodytone.com/2009/11/10/george-lynchs-woody-smoke-mirrors-gear/

Note that he speaks of a particular humbucker. We cannot, at the moment, say for certain whether he had more of these made, if this is the one the Hunter pickup is based on, or if it was used on any recordings. It does, however, tell us that George was experimenting with alternative windings no later than the Aerosmith tour in 1987; my video clip is from that tour, and given the number of guitars George go through there, it seems reasonable to assume that at least one of them had such a pickup in it. It might be noteworthy that the guitar he used in the REH video was not used until 1988, according to his old website:

https://web.archive.org/web/20050111193952/http://www.georgelynch.com:80/guitars/purpletiger.html

I hope somebody can weigh in with more detail on the matter later.

thanks a lot for repost the link , the video I posted is a part of a VHS tape called guitar bible 1988 when he talks about his pickup he says it's a duncan distortion with some modifications. and in this other video https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=eD1NZfW7C04 he also talks about this pickup I think


ps sorry for my poor english

 

[ntotoro]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

George made a mention of the pickup this is based on in the REH video of 1990, so it was certainly used on Wicked Sensation (in my opinion his best tones), and probably Back for the Attack. Possibly Under Lock and Key? This is based on the name alone, although I wouldn't consider it impossible to name a pickup after a song it wasn't used on.

I was always trying to figure out what pickups he was using in the REH video. During the "lesson" portion it looking like he was using a Parallel Axis or something and his tone is totally different than when he's jamming away in the studio on the orange quilt ESP. He really never moves his hand away from the pickup clearly enough during those shots to see if he's using a Demon or something that looks more "traditional," but it sounds Demon-ish to me.

"Wicked Sensation" is totally Demon, to my ears.

 

[Sirion]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

I have gotten the impression that the Screamin' Demon was slightly later? At least, this is what his web page used to say about the blue, white and red Kamikaze:

https://web.archive.org/web/2005011...orgelynch.com:80/guitars/flourescentkaze.html

"In 1992, Lynch took a more radical approach at making a variation of his Kamikaze design.

"This is also one of the first ESP guitars Lynch was to receive with the final version of the Duncan Screamin' Demon pickup."

The phrasing is annoyingly vague: "one of the first" and "the final version". That being said, this was 1992, so I suspect he would not have had prototypes ready three years prior for Wicked Sensation. In fact, it seems that Sacred Grove is the first album we can conclusively say that Lynch would have had access to it for.

In the end, we are probably hearing multiple things. For the S/T Lynch Mob, George brought 17 guitars into the studio, and I think it is safe to say that they must have had an assortment of pickups in them!

 

[ntotoro]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

Yeah, I'm sure there were several prototypes over that time... and I think he used a JB for a cup of coffee or two before the Demon became "official."

Just wish I could get a clear shot of the bridge pickup on the orange quilt ESP, at least for the time period during the REH video.

 

[maestroberetta]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

I really wish I had a video of George talking about his new pickup, a promotional video or a review

 

[Sirion]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

Hopeully we'll get something, but I suspect that they will go light on advertising for a custom shop pickup.

 

[punchlinechar]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

Is George actually going to use this signature product?

 

[Sirion]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

If it is like what he used in 87–90, then who cares?

 

[ntotoro]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

Is George actually going to use this signature product?

He'll use it... and about 87 others... :jester:

Seriously, though, if it sounds and "feels" like the DD I bought back in '88, I'll order one.

 

[maestroberetta]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

anyone know why dokkenbucker changed its name?

 

[Riley]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

anyone know why dokkenbucker changed its name?

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but as far as I know the Dokkenbucker was never an official product from the custom shop, maybe more of a 'secret menu' item.

Since this is an official signature model, I think George, and the custom shop, wanted to give it a name that hadn't already been floating around.

I'll chat with MJ and Derek today and see if there's any more to the story, and report back later.

 

[Masta' C]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

Heck yeah, please do!

 

[Sirion]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

Please do!

 

[Riley]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

So, per MJ and Derek, the Hunter is based on a custom shop pickup that MJ sent to George in the mid-eighties, similar to an under-wound SH-6. This pickup became known as the "Dokkenbucker" colloquially when somebody would order one through the custom shop, but was never an official signature product, and as far as I know George (and the other members of Dokken) never signed off on that name.

When we were talking with George about launching a new signature model, it was that original pickup from the eighties he wanted to replicate. The decision to use a new name was natural (and probably necessary).

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

So, per MJ and Derek, the Hunter is based on a custom shop pickup that MJ sent to George in the mid-eighties, similar to an under-wound SH-6. This pickup became known as the "Dokkenbucker" colloquially when somebody would order one through the custom shop, but was never an official signature product, and as far as I know George (and the other members of Dokken) never signed off on that name.

When we were talking with George about launching a new signature model, it was that original pickup from the eighties he wanted to replicate. The decision to use a new name was natural (and probably necessary).

Ah, so this is essentially an underwound single thick ceramic SH-6 with a well placed dash of Custom Shop magic?

 

[Demanic]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

Ah, so this is essentially an underwound single thick ceramic SH-6 with a well placed dash of Custom Shop magic?

You enunciating that makes me think that it probably sounds pretty dang good.

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[Chistopher]

Re: Introducing from the Custom Shop: The George Lynch Hunter

You enunciating that makes me think that it probably sounds pretty dang good.

That it does. I'm hoping to get one as soon as I find another guitar to mess around with.