JB is driving me NUTS!
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blueman335
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Edgecrusher
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Hey skippy why you cherry pick? Quote his whole post as in
Hey skippy why you cherry pick? Quote his whole post as in
Edgecrusher
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A statement that could be made about ANY pickup? Gee where did you hear that... FFS... ive never seen someone grasp so hard
A statement that could be made about ANY pickup? Gee where did you hear that... FFS... ive never seen someone grasp so hard
blueman335
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It's called quoting the highlights. Yes, he used JB's in mahogany guitars (which was my point), but as he also said, half of them were a big disappointment, fizzy tones (unless you like that sound). You forgot to quote the 'love/hate' with thing with JB's he mentioned. You seem to miss the parts where JB lovers say they have some unexpected problems when they put them in mahogany. It's something I've rarely seen said about JB's in brighter woods; they have a very high success rate in those guitars. It's almost like there's some kind of a connection there. If only mankind could unravel that. We'll get our best minds working on it.
It's called quoting the highlights. Yes, he used JB's in mahogany guitars (which was my point), but as he also said, half of them were a big disappointment, fizzy tones (unless you like that sound). You forgot to quote the 'love/hate' with thing with JB's he mentioned. You seem to miss the parts where JB lovers say they have some unexpected problems when they put them in mahogany. It's something I've rarely seen said about JB's in brighter woods; they have a very high success rate in those guitars. It's almost like there's some kind of a connection there. If only mankind could unravel that. We'll get our best minds working on it.
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The way I see it, if a pickup doesn't work for me, in my guitars, for the music I want to play, that means nobody should ever use it, and that it should be discontinued immediately.
The way I see it, if a pickup doesn't work for me, in my guitars, for the music I want to play, that means nobody should ever use it, and that it should be discontinued immediately.
Edgecrusher
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Sorry but you really do have an issue with reading comprehension dont you. B2D said
But keep grasping your doing wonderful...
Sorry but you really do have an issue with reading comprehension dont you. B2D said
Not Countfunkula who I was quoting.
But keep grasping your doing wonderful...
Noisembryo
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OP is still around, of course he is
Ok, been thinking and reading about the magnets, pots, caps etc. One thing I didn't take into consideration is that my pickups have gold covers and guitar looks really nice with them. My local store has all pickups you mentioned but they are not covered (except seth's). So in order to get gold covers which cost more than regular ones I have to order them and pay for shipping which in the end totals to more than I anticipated. Besides I'm in the market for this nice analog boutique overdrive/fuzz which cost roughly the same as new set of pickups...
So before I completely remove them I'm willing to experiment and see what happens. If all that fails I'll just get another set.
My idea is to make JB less hot and make it sound more vintage/PAF-ish. If I put roughcast A2 magnet in it will that get me close? I also read about "half-air" mode on this site about sticking piece of rubber between slugs and the magnet which is supposed to lower the output further down. Does it make sense to make this mod along putting roughcast A2?
For a '59 I'm thinking about polished A4 or A2, don't really know which one will make it less boomy and add more "singing sweetness" if you know what I mean.
OP is still around, of course he is
Ok, been thinking and reading about the magnets, pots, caps etc. One thing I didn't take into consideration is that my pickups have gold covers and guitar looks really nice with them. My local store has all pickups you mentioned but they are not covered (except seth's). So in order to get gold covers which cost more than regular ones I have to order them and pay for shipping which in the end totals to more than I anticipated. Besides I'm in the market for this nice analog boutique overdrive/fuzz which cost roughly the same as new set of pickups...
So before I completely remove them I'm willing to experiment and see what happens. If all that fails I'll just get another set.
My idea is to make JB less hot and make it sound more vintage/PAF-ish. If I put roughcast A2 magnet in it will that get me close? I also read about "half-air" mode on this site about sticking piece of rubber between slugs and the magnet which is supposed to lower the output further down. Does it make sense to make this mod along putting roughcast A2?
For a '59 I'm thinking about polished A4 or A2, don't really know which one will make it less boomy and add more "singing sweetness" if you know what I mean.
Edgecrusher
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A2 is a pretty big tonal shift for a JB... I wouldnt call it vintage but it moves it in that direction. It gets spongier and softens the highs a ton and removes the mid spike. You just might like it. I would try that before half air mods and stuff. Its a quick simple change and if you dont like it you can swap it back, for 6 bucks its worth a shot. But at the end of the you are probably better off with a different pickup the mods just might make the JB usuable for you.
The 59 is a pickup that doesnt agree with me no matter what i do with it so take my advice with a big grain of salt. An A4 will even out the eq some while an a2 will pull back the highs and lows and push the mids out. As a side note many of the original PAFs came with A4's I would be inclined to go that route first.
A2 is a pretty big tonal shift for a JB... I wouldnt call it vintage but it moves it in that direction. It gets spongier and softens the highs a ton and removes the mid spike. You just might like it. I would try that before half air mods and stuff. Its a quick simple change and if you dont like it you can swap it back, for 6 bucks its worth a shot. But at the end of the you are probably better off with a different pickup the mods just might make the JB usuable for you.
The 59 is a pickup that doesnt agree with me no matter what i do with it so take my advice with a big grain of salt. An A4 will even out the eq some while an a2 will pull back the highs and lows and push the mids out. As a side note many of the original PAFs came with A4's I would be inclined to go that route first.
darthphineas
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Or maybe just go with a different brand altogether. At some point, you have to wonder if it's worth doing all the mods to something that doesn't suit you. Given, of course, that you don't due diligence with the amp and with your own playing.
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Or maybe just go with a different brand altogether. At some point, you have to wonder if it's worth doing all the mods to something that doesn't suit you. Given, of course, that you don't due diligence with the amp and with your own playing.
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blueman335
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Edgecrusher: In the statement: "I have a love/hate relationship with that pickup" it's implied that it's: "because it sounds good in specific guitars for specific things." Why would someone have a 'love/hate' relationship with a PU if they didn't love it in something, somewhere? This concept seems to be eluding you. Have you suffered a sharp blow to the head recently?
Edgecrusher: In the statement: "I have a love/hate relationship with that pickup" it's implied that it's: "because it sounds good in specific guitars for specific things." Why would someone have a 'love/hate' relationship with a PU if they didn't love it in something, somewhere? This concept seems to be eluding you. Have you suffered a sharp blow to the head recently?
Re: JB is driving me NUTS!
Actually, I should clarify my former statement.
I have a love/hate relationship with the JB because I do really like the core tone of it - that classic JB sound, you know? My continuing beef with it has always been that I rarely come upon a situation where I can stick with it because there are small things about the qualities of that pickup which just seem to get to me over time. Namely, I always want smoother highs, bigger lows, and occasionally a less dominant midrange or at least one that isn't so centered in high mids. Their tendency to play nice with 250k pots (for a humbucker) complicates things as well.
As I've discovered recently, the Antiquity JB seems to take care of most of these issues, for me personally. YMMV. But overall I'm more into the hot PAF thing these days anyways.
Actually, I should clarify my former statement.
I have a love/hate relationship with the JB because I do really like the core tone of it - that classic JB sound, you know? My continuing beef with it has always been that I rarely come upon a situation where I can stick with it because there are small things about the qualities of that pickup which just seem to get to me over time. Namely, I always want smoother highs, bigger lows, and occasionally a less dominant midrange or at least one that isn't so centered in high mids. Their tendency to play nice with 250k pots (for a humbucker) complicates things as well.
As I've discovered recently, the Antiquity JB seems to take care of most of these issues, for me personally. YMMV. But overall I'm more into the hot PAF thing these days anyways.
CountFeedback
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Noisembryo, That's too much goofing around just get the Seths.
Noisembryo, That's too much goofing around just get the Seths.
Edgecrusher
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No but i suspect you have as you have attributed who said it to the wrong person...
Please tell me that you didnt bother to read my post ill accept that... But you got B2D and counfunkula mixed up on who said what... Next will direct you to read AGAIN B2D's clarification on the subject...
No but i suspect you have as you have attributed who said it to the wrong person...
Please tell me that you didnt bother to read my post ill accept that... But you got B2D and counfunkula mixed up on who said what... Next will direct you to read AGAIN B2D's clarification on the subject...
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darthphineas
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the JB is a humbucker
the JB is a humbucker
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Dam sho ain't! That thar Jay Bee 'taint nuttin but two sangle colls tied t'gether, nah!!
Dam sho ain't! That thar Jay Bee 'taint nuttin but two sangle colls tied t'gether, nah!!
Falloffthebonetone
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No he had it in mahogany guitars too. Plus his livewires are in mahogany now and while active they were modeled after the JB and Jazz.
No he had it in mahogany guitars too. Plus his livewires are in mahogany now and while active they were modeled after the JB and Jazz.
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darthphineas
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well the Hamer Centaura and the Kramer NightSwan and the Blaze Shredder and the Epi LP and.......
oh.....
you're talking about Mustaine?!?
getting a little tired of that guy stepping in on my action.
well the Hamer Centaura and the Kramer NightSwan and the Blaze Shredder and the Epi LP and.......
oh.....
you're talking about Mustaine?!?
getting a little tired of that guy stepping in on my action.
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