JC-120 chorus without the JC-120?
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LLL
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Re: JC-120 chorus without the JC-120?
Been doing some JC-120 research.
It turns out that the chorus found in the amp (introduced in 1975) was used for the BOSS CE-1 Chorus Ensemble (introduced in 1976), the world's first commercial Chorus pedal.
That said, if you were to find a real CE-1 (prolly tough and expensive) or a pedal that can emulate a CE-1, that'd be the ticket.
Been doing some JC-120 research.
It turns out that the chorus found in the amp (introduced in 1975) was used for the BOSS CE-1 Chorus Ensemble (introduced in 1976), the world's first commercial Chorus pedal.
That said, if you were to find a real CE-1 (prolly tough and expensive) or a pedal that can emulate a CE-1, that'd be the ticket.
LLL
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Re: JC-120 chorus without the JC-120?
It appears the RetroSonic Chorus is a CE-1 clone.
http://www.retro-sonic.com/featured/chorus-stereo-edition
It appears the RetroSonic Chorus is a CE-1 clone.
http://www.retro-sonic.com/featured/chorus-stereo-edition
LLL
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Re: JC-120 chorus without the JC-120?
:yeah:... you thought that right after you read my research.
Good one, "Ace"! :bigthumb:
:yeah:... you thought that right after you read my research.
Good one, "Ace"! :bigthumb:
LLL
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Re: JC-120 chorus without the JC-120?
They sell on Ebay for a good amount, but not out of reach; anywhere from $450-800 USD:
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/boss-ce-1
They sell on Ebay for a good amount, but not out of reach; anywhere from $450-800 USD:
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/boss-ce-1
LLL
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Re: JC-120 chorus without the JC-120?
:haha:
(Nothin' like stealing someone else's research and claiming it as your own to look "smart"...)
:haha:
(Nothin' like stealing someone else's research and claiming it as your own to look "smart"...)
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LLL
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Re: JC-120 chorus without the JC-120?
That's interesting.
Have you ever attempted to try to emulate the CE-1 with the Cluster Flux?
(Color me skeptical, because I'm of the opinion that you think every chorus sounds the same... because: "chorus")
I'm going to pair up the BIAS JC-120 amp with the BIAS FX CE-1 stomp (since I just read about this) and see what happens.
I might even make a clip for you. :naughty:
For the less than the price of a used CE-1 you could buy a MOOG Cluster Flux and dial in the CE-1 or any other chorus your heart could desire. For used CE-1 money, you could actually just buy a JC-120.
That's interesting.
Have you ever attempted to try to emulate the CE-1 with the Cluster Flux?
(Color me skeptical, because I'm of the opinion that you think every chorus sounds the same... because: "chorus")
I'm going to pair up the BIAS JC-120 amp with the BIAS FX CE-1 stomp (since I just read about this) and see what happens.
I might even make a clip for you. :naughty:
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LLL
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Re: JC-120 chorus without the JC-120?
He still posts here - maybe he'll respond eventually.
He still posts here - maybe he'll respond eventually.
Securb
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Re: JC-120 chorus without the JC-120?
I have multiple standalone chorus stomps and a JC-120. I did not buy my DOD 460, Ibanez CS9, Cluster Flux and a host of other pedals because I think all chorus is the same. Where did I even imply that? I have to agree with Aceman you are an idiot.
I have heard your hacky playing I am not impressed don't make a clip on my account.
I have multiple standalone chorus stomps and a JC-120. I did not buy my DOD 460, Ibanez CS9, Cluster Flux and a host of other pedals because I think all chorus is the same. Where did I even imply that? I have to agree with Aceman you are an idiot.
I have heard your hacky playing I am not impressed don't make a clip on my account.
beaubrummels
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Re: JC-120 chorus without the JC-120?
Any delay that allows control of the time, depth, rate, oscillation type, and supports 3-20ms of delay and 3-10hz range of oscillation should get pretty close to anything the CE-1 can do. Use a triangle wave form for the chorus mode and sine for the vibrato mode. I believe the magic chorus is 3-7ms and rate sweep of 3-12hz? (Or numbers other way around? 3-12ms and 3-7hz?)
The other tone factor would be the chipset, which I think would require some intelligent strategic EQ to get in the ballpark of - even the brand/choice of EQ would have to be considered. Or just accept how close you can get with just the chorus parameters.
Any delay that allows control of the time, depth, rate, oscillation type, and supports 3-20ms of delay and 3-10hz range of oscillation should get pretty close to anything the CE-1 can do. Use a triangle wave form for the chorus mode and sine for the vibrato mode. I believe the magic chorus is 3-7ms and rate sweep of 3-12hz? (Or numbers other way around? 3-12ms and 3-7hz?)
The other tone factor would be the chipset, which I think would require some intelligent strategic EQ to get in the ballpark of - even the brand/choice of EQ would have to be considered. Or just accept how close you can get with just the chorus parameters.
LLL
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Re: JC-120 chorus without the JC-120?
Allow me to repeat the question:
Have you ever attempted to try to emulate the CE-1 with the Cluster Flux?
Of course you do. :naughty:
Aw shucks - I'm sure there's plenty of others who may be curious how well the BIAS JC-120 fares against the real thing.
You could submit a clip of your real JC-120 for comparisons, but we all know you're too "busy" to make any clip (even though you accepted my Rockman tone challenge a week ago).
Allow me to repeat the question:
Have you ever attempted to try to emulate the CE-1 with the Cluster Flux?
Of course you do. :naughty:
Aw shucks - I'm sure there's plenty of others who may be curious how well the BIAS JC-120 fares against the real thing.
You could submit a clip of your real JC-120 for comparisons, but we all know you're too "busy" to make any clip (even though you accepted my Rockman tone challenge a week ago).
Aceman
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Re: JC-120 chorus without the JC-120?
LLL - Have you ever thought that maybe you should take a time out from the internet, or at least this forum. It might be good for you.
I really don't appreciate being accused of "stealing your research" when the CE-1 comment was just something in the back of my head from I don't when.
I really don't appreciate being cussed out in a PM by you. And then, you appear to really not be letting it go.
LLL - Have you ever thought that maybe you should take a time out from the internet, or at least this forum. It might be good for you.
I really don't appreciate being accused of "stealing your research" when the CE-1 comment was just something in the back of my head from I don't when.
I really don't appreciate being cussed out in a PM by you. And then, you appear to really not be letting it go.
LLL
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Re: JC-120 chorus without the JC-120?
Says the guy with 31,178 posts. ( Is this a paid gig for you? :13: )
And?
Speak for yourself there, "Ace". I moved it to PM-land; you brought it back to public-land. :23:
Says the guy with 31,178 posts. ( Is this a paid gig for you? :13: )
And?
Speak for yourself there, "Ace". I moved it to PM-land; you brought it back to public-land. :23:
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