Jimi Hendrix MARSHALL RI
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newking70
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Re: Jimi Hendrix MARSHALL RI
you might want to contact david bray, he knows knows marshall amps....
http://davidbrayamps.com/
you might want to contact david bray, he knows knows marshall amps....
http://davidbrayamps.com/
kmcguitars
GuitarArtologist
Re: Jimi Hendrix MARSHALL RI
I don't think Jimi's amps where Modded in that sense,But more so Upgraded to handle his sonic assault. Much the way Leo Fender had D!ck Dale play thru Showman's until they blew up. This way he could find out which component's needed to be upgraded. Then after the weak link's where discovered,The upgrades where Incorporated into production amps.
I don't think Jimi's amps where Modded in that sense,But more so Upgraded to handle his sonic assault. Much the way Leo Fender had D!ck Dale play thru Showman's until they blew up. This way he could find out which component's needed to be upgraded. Then after the weak link's where discovered,The upgrades where Incorporated into production amps.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: Jimi Hendrix MARSHALL RI
I've read where they actually were using the 6550 tubes in Hendrix's amps to keep it tighter? Not sure to the truth on this? Hendrix had alot of problems using the amps back and forth between here and the UK also with mains voltages and transformer problems...I also heard he used the 30 watt "Bass" speakers? It'd be cool to really know the real facts.
I've read where they actually were using the 6550 tubes in Hendrix's amps to keep it tighter? Not sure to the truth on this? Hendrix had alot of problems using the amps back and forth between here and the UK also with mains voltages and transformer problems...I also heard he used the 30 watt "Bass" speakers? It'd be cool to really know the real facts.
Rich_S
HomeGrownToneBrewologist
Re: Jimi Hendrix MARSHALL RI
The background on this amp is that there was a guy in England a year or so ago who listed an old Marshall on eBay, purported to be an ex-Hendrix amp. The documentation was pretty solid, and it caused quite a stir. Before the auction closed, Marshall got into the act. They apparently were convinced that the amp was authentic, and came to an "arrangement" with the seller to gain possession of the Hendrix head.
Their examination of that head is the basis for the reissue. I suspect that the "mods" are just narrowing down variables assosiated with the manufacturing variances that were common back then. Amps weren't always built exactly to the schematic, and the only way to find out what a particular amp is, is to look inside.
The background on this amp is that there was a guy in England a year or so ago who listed an old Marshall on eBay, purported to be an ex-Hendrix amp. The documentation was pretty solid, and it caused quite a stir. Before the auction closed, Marshall got into the act. They apparently were convinced that the amp was authentic, and came to an "arrangement" with the seller to gain possession of the Hendrix head.
Their examination of that head is the basis for the reissue. I suspect that the "mods" are just narrowing down variables assosiated with the manufacturing variances that were common back then. Amps weren't always built exactly to the schematic, and the only way to find out what a particular amp is, is to look inside.
Corbic
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Re: Jimi Hendrix MARSHALL RI
I read 6550s as well, but now I'm hearing stuff about KT66 tubes and I'm not sure...on the specs page for the Jimi stack on the Marshall site there is a quote from Eddie Kramer saying how KT66 tubes really made those amps (Jimi's) sing. http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=Super 100JH
The speakers I heard originally were G12H speakers, originally intended for bass. But now Marshall is using these Marshall/Celestion G12C speakers in the cabs for the Jimi stack, which I've never heard of or know anything about.
EDIT: I remember reading that at the end of a tour, Jimi would pick which heads he thought sounded the best, and the techs would take them apart to see which ones were best. The ones Jimi picked usually had very high plate voltages.
STRATDELUXER97 said:
I read 6550s as well, but now I'm hearing stuff about KT66 tubes and I'm not sure...on the specs page for the Jimi stack on the Marshall site there is a quote from Eddie Kramer saying how KT66 tubes really made those amps (Jimi's) sing. http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productCode=Super 100JH
The speakers I heard originally were G12H speakers, originally intended for bass. But now Marshall is using these Marshall/Celestion G12C speakers in the cabs for the Jimi stack, which I've never heard of or know anything about.
EDIT: I remember reading that at the end of a tour, Jimi would pick which heads he thought sounded the best, and the techs would take them apart to see which ones were best. The ones Jimi picked usually had very high plate voltages.
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Bludave
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Re: Jimi Hendrix MARSHALL RI
http://www.backstage-lounge.com/story.asp?sectioncode=66&storycode=5695
This is an article I read a few years ago that explained some of his live GIG amps and Mods. For the most part his amps were 100W Super leads, some were modified with 6550 tubes and some speakers were changed from the 25W Celestians to the 75W Rolos that were used in the SS Vox Amps.
http://www.backstage-lounge.com/story.asp?sectioncode=66&storycode=5695
This is an article I read a few years ago that explained some of his live GIG amps and Mods. For the most part his amps were 100W Super leads, some were modified with 6550 tubes and some speakers were changed from the 25W Celestians to the 75W Rolos that were used in the SS Vox Amps.
Re: Jimi Hendrix MARSHALL RI
How different in tone are the Heritage from the G12H? I use the G12H, and they sound AMAZING with Marshalls! I mean flat out unreal in crunch, fullness, balance, tone, and crunch. Cleans are nice too. Verrrry woody.
BTW that backstage lounge link was GREAT!
How different in tone are the Heritage from the G12H? I use the G12H, and they sound AMAZING with Marshalls! I mean flat out unreal in crunch, fullness, balance, tone, and crunch. Cleans are nice too. Verrrry woody.
BTW that backstage lounge link was GREAT!
shredaholic
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Re: Jimi Hendrix MARSHALL RI
The Jimi Hendrix Marshall RI is just the JTM45/100 with a 33k/500pf tonestack (instead of 56k/250pf).
The Jimi Hendrix Marshall RI is just the JTM45/100 with a 33k/500pf tonestack (instead of 56k/250pf).
shredaholic
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Re: Jimi Hendrix MARSHALL RI
Tru'
...just goes to show how much $$$ you can add just by throwing someone's name on an amp.
I'd be interested to know how those G12C (or whatever they're called) speakers sound that come with the full stack though, as apparently they aren't being sold separately from the 1959JH full stack.
Tru'
...just goes to show how much $$$ you can add just by throwing someone's name on an amp.
I'd be interested to know how those G12C (or whatever they're called) speakers sound that come with the full stack though, as apparently they aren't being sold separately from the 1959JH full stack.
JeffB
Let it B
Re: Jimi Hendrix MARSHALL RI
I'm generally not a fan of 6550s in a Marshall...cos of the mids frequency "shift" they cause.
But I've only used them in JMP MVs and 800s... I bet in an old 45/PLexi type circuit, I actually would like how they sound due to that mid frequency shift.
Does the hendrix one have JTM45 on the faceplate and brown-ish grillcloth with no cab emblems? If so...they've got one at my local store..I didn't plug into it..but I may just hafta next time:laugh2:
I'm generally not a fan of 6550s in a Marshall...cos of the mids frequency "shift" they cause.
But I've only used them in JMP MVs and 800s... I bet in an old 45/PLexi type circuit, I actually would like how they sound due to that mid frequency shift.
Does the hendrix one have JTM45 on the faceplate and brown-ish grillcloth with no cab emblems? If so...they've got one at my local store..I didn't plug into it..but I may just hafta next time:laugh2:
Lake Placid Blues
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Re: Jimi Hendrix MARSHALL RI
It probably depends on the exact year and month of the Marshall rig in question. Hendrix bought new Marshall rigs from time to time, both in England and in the USA. At one point his whole rig was stolen and he bought a brand new Marshall rig from Manny's for gig that same day in NYC.
Hendrix bought his first Marshall rig directly from the Marshall factory in late 1966. At that point, the 100 watt heads were just introduced and were the JTM45/100 versions with KT66 tubes. Additionally, at this time the alnico Celestions were being superceded by ceramic versions (probably the G12C designation) rated at 20 watts.
By 68, the plexi 100's were moving away from the JTM45 pre-amp design, and the EL34 was the standard power tube. There's at least one mid to late 67 Hendrix amp loaded with stock EL34's, known to exist. Henderson in his book, reported that Hendrix would sometimes have EL34's replaced with KT66 tubes for more solid bass response during this period. The 25 watt version Green back was standard in the Marshall 4x12 cabs from early 68, and the G12H30 may have been available as bass speaker from 68 as well. The only difference between bass and lead version Celestions is the resonating frequancy of the cones. The G12H30 (bass and lead versions) was used from 69 in the heavy duty 4x12 cabs.
By June 69 the plexi amps essentially became metal panel 70's amps, and Hendrix was using the new metal panel amps during this period. It was from this period that it's speculated about the possible use of (Tung Sol, not GE)6550's. Also during this final period, there is some question about the use of JBL-Altec alnico magnet speakers being used in some cabs or perhaps mixed in.
It probably depends on the exact year and month of the Marshall rig in question. Hendrix bought new Marshall rigs from time to time, both in England and in the USA. At one point his whole rig was stolen and he bought a brand new Marshall rig from Manny's for gig that same day in NYC.
Hendrix bought his first Marshall rig directly from the Marshall factory in late 1966. At that point, the 100 watt heads were just introduced and were the JTM45/100 versions with KT66 tubes. Additionally, at this time the alnico Celestions were being superceded by ceramic versions (probably the G12C designation) rated at 20 watts.
By 68, the plexi 100's were moving away from the JTM45 pre-amp design, and the EL34 was the standard power tube. There's at least one mid to late 67 Hendrix amp loaded with stock EL34's, known to exist. Henderson in his book, reported that Hendrix would sometimes have EL34's replaced with KT66 tubes for more solid bass response during this period. The 25 watt version Green back was standard in the Marshall 4x12 cabs from early 68, and the G12H30 may have been available as bass speaker from 68 as well. The only difference between bass and lead version Celestions is the resonating frequancy of the cones. The G12H30 (bass and lead versions) was used from 69 in the heavy duty 4x12 cabs.
By June 69 the plexi amps essentially became metal panel 70's amps, and Hendrix was using the new metal panel amps during this period. It was from this period that it's speculated about the possible use of (Tung Sol, not GE)6550's. Also during this final period, there is some question about the use of JBL-Altec alnico magnet speakers being used in some cabs or perhaps mixed in.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Jimi Hendrix MARSHALL RI
I like the look of that Jimi Hendrix Marshall, but I'd really love to have a 40th Anniversary stack...the JTM 45/100
I like the look of that Jimi Hendrix Marshall, but I'd really love to have a 40th Anniversary stack...the JTM 45/100
JeffB
Let it B
Re: Jimi Hendrix MARSHALL RI
Actually I think that is the one at the local shop. Just don't recall there being an emblem on the bottom 4x12.
I saw it and then moved away as fast as I could...I knew better than to let GAS for something like that to get the better of me :chairfall
Gearjoneser said:I like the look of that Jimi Hendrix Marshall, but I'd really love to have a 40th Anniversary stack...the JTM 45/100
Actually I think that is the one at the local shop. Just don't recall there being an emblem on the bottom 4x12.
I saw it and then moved away as fast as I could...I knew better than to let GAS for something like that to get the better of me :chairfall
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Jimi Hendrix MARSHALL RI
You mean you aren't willing to sell your car for a handwired Marshall amp?
What kind of GASser are you anyway?!! LOL
You mean you aren't willing to sell your car for a handwired Marshall amp?
What kind of GASser are you anyway?!! LOL
