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Lewguitar
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What do you guys make of this? The guy has several of these on Ebay and his feedback is all positive. http://cgi.ebay.com/KLON-Centaur-Co...5|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Klon Centaur clones on Ebay....
It's not tar and it is actually quite easy to get off if you feel like spending the time...
As for the clone on ebay, not sure...
Lew, if you want a Klon and don't want to wait the closest thing you can get is a Banzai Cold Fusion...I actually have AB'ed them and they are VERY close, scary close in fact. The Banzai is now discontinued but they do pop up quite often and can usally be had fairly cheep. FWIW, I actually prefered the Banzai to a real Klon but in the end it got sold as well...
It's not tar and it is actually quite easy to get off if you feel like spending the time...
As for the clone on ebay, not sure...
Lew, if you want a Klon and don't want to wait the closest thing you can get is a Banzai Cold Fusion...I actually have AB'ed them and they are VERY close, scary close in fact. The Banzai is now discontinued but they do pop up quite often and can usally be had fairly cheep. FWIW, I actually prefered the Banzai to a real Klon but in the end it got sold as well...
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Lewguitar
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Re: Klon Centaur clones on Ebay....
You know Jeff Beck is my favorite living electric guitarist and he's using a Klon these days. His new live album is superb, IMO, and filled with great tones and I've been told he's using the Klon on this new recording.
I dunno - I need a new fuzz like another hole in the head. I put this beautiful pedal board together with all of my favorite new stuff on it so I could compare everyhting and in the end removed everything except my old Rat and the Jemini pedal as far as overdrives and distortion pedals go!
Love the Vox Satchurator, DS-1, TS-808, Fulltone '69, etc. but they're not on my board at the moment.
Truth is, I sound the most like me just plugging a favorite guitar straight into one of my old amps and just turning it up.
Lew
You know Jeff Beck is my favorite living electric guitarist and he's using a Klon these days. His new live album is superb, IMO, and filled with great tones and I've been told he's using the Klon on this new recording.
I dunno - I need a new fuzz like another hole in the head. I put this beautiful pedal board together with all of my favorite new stuff on it so I could compare everyhting and in the end removed everything except my old Rat and the Jemini pedal as far as overdrives and distortion pedals go!
Love the Vox Satchurator, DS-1, TS-808, Fulltone '69, etc. but they're not on my board at the moment.
Truth is, I sound the most like me just plugging a favorite guitar straight into one of my old amps and just turning it up.
Lew
Ayrton
New member
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Klon Centaur clones on Ebay....
The Klon is not a fuzz in terms of something like a Fuzz Face or Tonebender...think of the Klon of kind of a dirty boost. They are very low gain in terms of actual crunch but have a lot of boost that can be had with the volume control that works well, for some players running into an amp thats already being driven hard. Jeff's tone has a lot more to do with those pickups he's been using for years now and the cranked JTM-45 but the Klon is gettign used as his only boost these days.
The Klon is not a fuzz in terms of something like a Fuzz Face or Tonebender...think of the Klon of kind of a dirty boost. They are very low gain in terms of actual crunch but have a lot of boost that can be had with the volume control that works well, for some players running into an amp thats already being driven hard. Jeff's tone has a lot more to do with those pickups he's been using for years now and the cranked JTM-45 but the Klon is gettign used as his only boost these days.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Klon Centaur clones on Ebay....
They're not $500...if memory serves me a Klon, new costs around $375 or so but depending on Bill's work load the wait times can get quite high so on the used market they sell for stupid money...
They're not $500...if memory serves me a Klon, new costs around $375 or so but depending on Bill's work load the wait times can get quite high so on the used market they sell for stupid money...
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Klon Centaur clones on Ebay....
You think there is anything in a Klon thats worth the money they sell for???
You think there is anything in a Klon thats worth the money they sell for???
LoFiBrian
New member
Re: Klon Centaur clones on Ebay....
I thought it was just a given that Klons are a hugely overpriced pedal.
I thought it was just a given that Klons are a hugely overpriced pedal.
serizawa
New member
Re: Klon Centaur clones on Ebay....
Dang. That stuff doesn't look too easy to remove to me.
Dang. That stuff doesn't look too easy to remove to me.
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Lewguitar
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Re: Klon Centaur clones on Ebay....
Jeff Beck has never sounded better - and I've been a fan of his for over 40 years.
Lew
Jeff Beck has never sounded better - and I've been a fan of his for over 40 years.
Lew
Stratman
Guitaris Maximus
Re: Klon Centaur clones on Ebay....
I have a KLON and used to use it as part of the pedal setup.
Since replaced it with a number of different pedals, latest being last week's ZIM (Foxrox).
Can never have enough pedals.
I have a KLON and used to use it as part of the pedal setup.
Since replaced it with a number of different pedals, latest being last week's ZIM (Foxrox).
Can never have enough pedals.
ErikH
Well-known member
Re: Klon Centaur clones on Ebay....
Over the last couple years, I have seen many claims of circuits being a clone of the Klon Centaur. It is quite possible that someone reverse engineered one and that is the only way a true clone can be done because the original schematic is not out there to be found, anywhere. From what I understand, Bill is VERY picky when it comes to parts and their tolerances to the point where he measures each and every part. Whether that is true or not, I don't know.
I'd steer clear of that one.
Edit: Apparently somebody did reverse engineer one and drew out the schematic. Interesting read on it too. Definitely a different circuit.
http://revolutiondeux.blogspot.com/2008/01/klown-centaur.html
Over the last couple years, I have seen many claims of circuits being a clone of the Klon Centaur. It is quite possible that someone reverse engineered one and that is the only way a true clone can be done because the original schematic is not out there to be found, anywhere. From what I understand, Bill is VERY picky when it comes to parts and their tolerances to the point where he measures each and every part. Whether that is true or not, I don't know.
I'd steer clear of that one.
Edit: Apparently somebody did reverse engineer one and drew out the schematic. Interesting read on it too. Definitely a different circuit.
http://revolutiondeux.blogspot.com/2008/01/klown-centaur.html
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LoFiBrian
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Re: Klon Centaur clones on Ebay....
has anyone known of anyone coming up with a schematic for a klon? I would like to know what makes this pedal so amazing? how does it get its clipping? how does the tone controls work etc.
I'm not looking to copy it or steal it. just find out where the tone comes from...
has anyone known of anyone coming up with a schematic for a klon? I would like to know what makes this pedal so amazing? how does it get its clipping? how does the tone controls work etc.
I'm not looking to copy it or steal it. just find out where the tone comes from...
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Klon Centaur clones on Ebay....
There are several guys that have de gooped them and cloned them...
Truth is it's a ho-hum pedal IMHO...it just didn't do anything for me, it's been a while and maybe I should try one again but when I tried it I remember thinking to myself "this is it...this is the mighty Klon?!"
There are several guys that have de gooped them and cloned them...
Truth is it's a ho-hum pedal IMHO...it just didn't do anything for me, it's been a while and maybe I should try one again but when I tried it I remember thinking to myself "this is it...this is the mighty Klon?!"
LoFiBrian
New member
Re: Klon Centaur clones on Ebay....
looking here:
http://freestompboxes.org/members/soulsonic/schematic/KlonCentaur-5-24-08b.gif
it has some real great ideas and basis there. But im thinking it is really made to be a boost to push a loud non-MV amp into total fury.
I think that if someone evened it out and made a clone with some decent quality componets in a simple enclosure. I would buy one! chances are i wouldnt bond with it anyways though.
looking here:
http://freestompboxes.org/members/soulsonic/schematic/KlonCentaur-5-24-08b.gif
it has some real great ideas and basis there. But im thinking it is really made to be a boost to push a loud non-MV amp into total fury.
I think that if someone evened it out and made a clone with some decent quality componets in a simple enclosure. I would buy one! chances are i wouldnt bond with it anyways though.
