Krank Amps?

[JB_From_Hell]

Re: Krank Amps?

Wow... I just read that whole page of posts in that link, and came away stupider for having done it

 

[some_dude]

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Shadows fall uses them.. they sound in between a recto and a 5150

Let me know if these linked images don't work.....

http://www.error404media.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album319&id=DSC_0058

I tried really hard to find a pic with one that looked loaded, but in all the shots that don't look empty you'll notice that the back wall is also unlit.

 

[some_dude]

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There was a guy on harmonycentral who was hanging with the band and went to see a show. He said that there were blanks up front, but they were in fact using Kranks behind the stage.

It's possible.....I think it's already been mentioned, but Kerry King's known for doing the same thing.

 

[some_dude]

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Here's a clip done by one of the guys off the Zakk Wylde forum.

I doesn't really impress me, but maybe one of you will like it.

 

[krankguitarist]

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I stand corrected, i'll use "non-adjustable" from now on :wink: .

I'll accept the possiblity that shadows fall doesnt really use krank amps, but to me this seems really conspiracy-theory-ish, as if to state that whenever somebody gets endorsed by an amplifier company they're really using anything but that amp?

Jonathan donais used a jcm800 2203 before the swap. Now, I used to have a jcm800 2203, and i ran it similar to the way Jon did, with a distortion pedal in front. It just seems odd to me that he would keep that jcm800 behind the set when his distorted tone wasnt really for the most part originating from that amp in the first place.

Hell, I just went to a Soilwork show the other day. Dark tranquility was one of the opening bands, and they were using Kranks. They had great tone too. This was a small-ass club, and if they were hiding another amp back there, they should quit as musicians and start working as interior designers, cause I would be f***ing impressed.

Like other people said though, people use dummy amps on stage a lot, hell, you go see a slayer concert and kerry king's got an entire wall of empty marshall cabs behind him, but he's still using a marshall behind the stage. Sometimes its just for looks.

 

[Metalman_666]

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Why on earth would anyone use an empty amp on the stage and run their real amps backstage... that makes no sense to me...?

 

[krankguitarist]

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sometimes people use combos. That, and its easier to stack an empty case on top of two cabinets (and much safer), than to do the same with the real head.

Why would anyone these days need to have two stacks behind them for each guitarist? With PA systems nowadays, you could play an ampitheatre with a 20 watt combo. Of course, a stack is much more suited to heavy metal than a 20 watt combo, but like i said, a lot of the time the big amp rigs they got up on stage are just for looks.

 

[some_dude]

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Why on earth would anyone use an empty amp on the stage and run their real amps backstage... that makes no sense to me...?

Sometimes the heads are permanantly mounted in a rack, but they use blank heads for show.

 

[Metalman_666]

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Sometimes the heads are permanantly mounted in a rack, but they use blank heads for show.

Hmm.... reading the other posts about that I guess it makes sense to do that :question:

Anyway I read the posts on the GuitarGeek forums, and it says even Dimebag used to use fake amps and cabs???? Would he still be using his Warheads and Warhead cabs though?

 

[some_dude]

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Hmm.... reading the other posts about that I guess it makes sense to do that :question:

Anyway I read the posts on the GuitarGeek forums, and it says even Dimebag used to use fake amps and cabs???? Would he still be using his Warheads and Warhead cabs though?

I think he actually used the Kranks.

 

[krankguitarist]

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I think he actually used the Kranks.

Ditto. Dimebag could have chosen any amplifier company to get sponsored by, why would he on a whim go with the small upstart tube-amp company from arizona?

That guitar geek forum gave me a headache. The thing is, these amps get a real bad rap for the whole harmony-central thing that they really don't deserve.

I will concede that with the stock 5881 sovtek power tubes that these amps don't sound as good as they could. I've got some JJ/tesla 6l6GC's loaded up in mine and it sounds a whole lot better than stock.

What matters to me is whether or not the amp sounds good. Aside from any weird scandals or revalations ("thumb found in krank circut board", "transformers in krank amps revealed to be prisons for antartician midgets", "my krank cab ate my grandmother"), i'm still going to use mine.

 

[ex-250]

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zakk has a bunch of empty JCM800s on stage too, and the ones he really uses are in a rack backstage

 

[NecroPolo]

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Why would anyone these days need to have two stacks behind them for each guitarist? With PA systems nowadays, you could play an ampitheatre with a 20 watt combo. Of course, a stack is much more suited to heavy metal than a 20 watt combo, but like i said, a lot of the time the big amp rigs they got up on stage are just for looks.

I use 2 halfstacks because I love the wall of sound they create, even if I don't crank them all the way up. Okay I know power tube distortion blahblahblah but I prefer the tone of my Marshall on 75% and my Laney at 60%. I "open" the cabs a littlebit into some small angle so they can easily project well my side of the stage. Sometimes when we play indoor I place the cabs to the both sides of the stage, facing towards me and enjoy the 3D sound.

So, in short: because it's fun

 

[FretFire]

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Why on earth would anyone use an empty amp on the stage and run their real amps backstage... that makes no sense to me...?

It's called an endorsement deal. You get paid by a company to "advertise" their amps by having a wall of them behind you on stage. If you happen to prefer the tone you get from an amp made by a small company that can't afford big endorsements, or just couldn't get one from your preferred company for some reason, then you might take the deal from the other company and run your favorite amp "behind the scenes".

Or, to make a long story short... $$$$$$$$$$$$$.

 

[That90'sGuy]

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It's called an endorsement deal. You get paid by a company to "advertise" their amps by having a wall of them behind you on stage. If you happen to prefer the tone you get from an amp made by a small company that can't afford big endorsements, or just couldn't get one from your preferred company for some reason, then you might take the deal from the other company and run your favorite amp "behind the scenes".

Or, to make a long story short... $$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Thank you! I was just going to mention that. :fing2:

 

[some_dude]

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It's called an endorsement deal. You get paid by a company to "advertise" their amps by having a wall of them behind you on stage. If you happen to prefer the tone you get from an amp made by a small company that can't afford big endorsements, or just couldn't get one from your preferred company for some reason, then you might take the deal from the other company and run your favorite amp "behind the scenes".

Or, to make a long story short... $$$$$$$$$$$$$.

However, most endorsement deals are unpaid. The artist simply gets a factory direct rate, reduced rate, or free product.

For instance, a Mesa endorsement gets you a factory rate and tour tech support.

I'm not really sure what Krank's offering, but it's probably pretty good since they're attempting to establish their name amongst some pretty bad publicity.

 

[Rich_T]

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I'd go for that whole line of thought, except that to me it seems fairly idealistic. (no offense intended at all)

I mean...look at magazine's like guitar one and guitar world. I have yet to see a piece of gear go through there, no matter how expensive or cheap, that has been given a bad review.

Why? Because the majority of the money they make is from advertisments. and fender/gibson/marshall/line 6/whoever wouldnt be too happy if they started bad-mouthing their equipment. It keeps a good business relationship between the companies.

Beyond that, we all know how accurate reviews are on harmony central. Somthing I actually noticed one day was on the dimarzio review page, how as I started reading though starting from the lowest output pickup to the highest, how the grammar steadily started getting worse and the words f***, S***, a**, b****, (im only censoring myself cause I'm fairly new to the board and dont know all the rules yet...) ect, started appearing more and more. Useless fact of the day provided by Dan Lindley.

Some reviews are bound to be planted. Most of the reviews are from people who havent given their gear a good test-out. Some are simply from idiots. Though I'm not saying i endorse this method of advertising, As it is an unfair business pratice for the consumer. But, what I AM saying is that its bound to happen. It's not like they're using baby seal guts in the transformers :smack: .

Which is why I don't trust magazine reviews. If i know a company is messing around with its potential custoemrs, i'm not gonna buy their products.

 

[ex-250]

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Why on earth would anyone use an empty amp on the stage and run their real amps backstage... that makes no sense to me...?

well if they have a giant wall of stacks, itd be a bit rediculous to play through all of em (im talking like a huge 10 stack wall or something). so you get your amp sound (from backstage) and still have a big cool lookin thing onstage

 

[usagi]

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"But, what I AM saying is that its bound to happen. It's not like they're using baby seal guts in the transformers"

I'm thinking that might sound sweet!!!!