Les Paul looks fake to me

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A friend got this Lester at a yard sale in Florida and insists it is real.

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Fake.

Script looks slightly wrong on switch plate and truss cover, Grover backs look strange, fretboard looks odd -like richlite or something, serial number doesnt look straight, and is it me or do the gold mounting ring screw heads for the covers look like a mm too big
 
Fake.

Script looks slightly wrong on switch plate and truss cover, Grover backs look strange, fretboard looks odd -like richlite or something, serial number doesnt look straight, and is it me or do the gold mounting ring screw heads for the covers look like a mm too big

That is exactly what I told him before he sent me the back of the headstock. None of the gold matches which was my first clue. The fretboard is rosewood, richlite doesn't fade like that. After arguing with him all morning, he returned and got a refund. $450 for a $300 used Chinese guitar.
 
That is exactly what I told him before he sent me the back of the headstock. None of the gold matches which was my first clue. The fretboard is rosewood, richlite doesn't fade like that. After arguing with him all morning, he returned and got a refund. $450 for a $300 used Chinese guitar.

Thats not rosewood thats "weird-wood".
 
What caught my eye was the bridge studs - real Gibsons have the small screws with no slots. This one has large screws with the slot for the screwdriver.

Thats the first thing I look for. They make these cosmetically perfect replicas including counterfeit custom shop certificates and so forth, then put the wrong bridge on.
 
Yeah, the metric bridge (as per Epiphone etc.) is usually defining marker of a Fibson.

Apart from all the stuff mentioned already, the diamond inlay on headstock is also tilted to one side, and on real ones the Bigsby doesn't ride up against the tune-o-matic on the treble side so much, from the ones I've seen.

Don't real ones also come with an amber switch tip?

Well, they were about $450 back in 1959 or whenever :D.
 
My friend told the seller the guitar was fake and got his money back. The seller said she didn't know it was fake and apologized. But yet it is back for sale. The funny thing is when I got this picture I asked why the styrofoam case wasn't the first tip-off? I shouldn't have had to spend an hour yesterday walking someone through the process of spotting a fake Gibson.

The seller is garbage knowingly putting a fake into the guitar ecosystem.

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My friend told the seller the guitar was fake and got his money back. The seller said she didn't know it was fake and apologized. But yet it is back for sale. The funny thing is when I got this picture I asked why the styrofoam case wasn't the first tip-off? I shouldn't have had to spend an hour yesterday walking someone through the process of spotting a fake Gibson.

The seller is garbage knowingly putting a fake into the guitar ecosystem.

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Forgot to ask, did anyone hear the guitar? What if it's great? :)
 
Forgot to ask, did anyone hear the guitar? What if it's great? :)

From what I have learned about Chibson, some of them do sound good. The problem is the quality, the wheels fall off pretty quickly. The wear on the fretboard is accelerated on the guitar in the picture. From what I have heard the headstocks are more prone to breaking than real Gibsons. They snap off if you look at them too hard.
 
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