Line 6 POD HD Series

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The next version will be the Full HD model. It will have FULL HIGH DEFINITION audio. Then they will introduce a 3D model that processes sound in THE THIRD DIMENSION.

After that they will release a unit that syncs with your facebook or twitter account that will automatically alert to your friends what settings are in use. They will call it the iP.O.D.
 
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So it's just a floor unit? No desktop implementation? Pass.
 
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Yikes.... Still sounds like a POD to me :smack:

Yeah I can't say i was terribly impressed. However I've heard demos of tube amps that sounded about the same over YouTube audio, so I shall reserve judgement until I actually play one.
 
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I just listened to the new POD HD sound samples. It sounds the same as the old POD. There's nothing more natural about the sound. It still sounds like a digital processor so I don't know what all the hype is about. They're just doing the same thing Microsoft has always done. They're like "we got a new POD so your old one sucks now. Time to upgrade."
 
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that.... is not what a JCM800 sounds like.

I liked the POD 2.0 JCM800 model the best.... but that was modeled after a modded 800... At the least that tone was somewhat usable for live work. A tad harsh but OK if dialed in. The JCM model on my XT flat out stinks... I have played a real 800 often, and none of the models sound anything like it :)
 
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I just listened to the new POD HD sound samples. It sounds the same as the old POD. There's nothing more natural about the sound. It still sounds like a digital processor so I don't know what all the hype is about. They're just doing the same thing Microsoft has always done. They're like "we got a new POD so your old one sucks now. Time to upgrade."

Sound like a POD to me... But I wish they would use real guitars to do the clips. A modeled guitar into a modeled amp is just a little too fake.
 
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I just listened to the new POD HD sound samples. It sounds the same as the old POD. There's nothing more natural about the sound. It still sounds like a digital processor so I don't know what all the hype is about. They're just doing the same thing Microsoft has always done. They're like "we got a new POD so your old one sucks now. Time to upgrade."

Yeah, website is finally up. I must say that I agree with you I could not see much difference at the sound quality at all.
 
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big surprise there

every year a new modeler comes out that says it's EVEN CLOSER

conveniently ignoring that they were nowhere close to begin with

definitely getting that blue box btw
 
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What everyone forgets is what these are trying to MODEL is recorded tone.

No, it's not going to sound like a roaring amp, but then again, single guitar tracks don't sound like roaring amps either. It's how they sit in the mix that matters.
 
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I read a couple of weeks ago about a study, where the researchers set up in a bar and offered free taste tests of two beers to patrons, one of which was a normal, cheap American brew (Budweiser, iirc) and the other was that same beer with 2 Tsp of balsamic vinegar added to it.

The subjects were divided into three groups.

In the first group, the subjects weren't told what they would be drinking. After tasting the beers, the Vinegar Beer was the overwhelming favorite.

In the second group, the subjects were told up front that one beer was Bud and the other was Bud+vinegar. They overwhelmingly chose the Bud. Having gone into the test expecting the Vinegar Beer to be gross (because, c'mon, the idea is a little off-putting), they thought it was gross.

In the third group, they were told nothing up front, but after they (like the first group) chose the Vinegar Beer, it was revealed to them what they'd just had. They still chose the Vinegar Beer. Having formed an opinion based on experience, the power of the idea of what vinegar beer would be like could no longer sway them.

Sometimes I think amp modelling is a bit like that Vinegar Beer.
 
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I will stay with my Eleven Rack and Ground Control Pro & GCX…

Spent too much on equipment for GAS to set in (For this month anyway!)

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It seems the x3live has been discontinued! (New model year?)

For those really GASSED up...

POD® HD500

16 HD amp models
100+ effect models
Up to 8 simultaneous effects
128 user presets
512 factory presets
48-second on-board looper with dedicated controls
1/4" aux in
XLR mic in (with trim)
Variax Digital Input (VDI)
Unbalanced 1/4" main outs (L+R)
1/4" stereo headphone out
Balanced XLR outs (L+R)
S/PDIF out
L6 LINK™ jack
Stereo FX return
MIDI I/O
MP3/CD in
Built-in tuner
Tap tempo
USB
Expression pedal
Aux expression pedal jack
Software editor/librarian
Metal chassis, pedal and footswitches
 
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What everyone forgets is what these are trying to MODEL is recorded tone.

No, it's not going to sound like a roaring amp, but then again, single guitar tracks don't sound like roaring amps either. It's how they sit in the mix that matters.

Looks like the new models are geared towards live use though.
 
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You absolutely cannot use a 100w stack in a high rise apartment. That's where modelling comes in.

That's why I keep my PODXT bean around.. Also good to lay down a quick and easy guitar track for an idea before it dies forever.
 
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I laugh at you guys judging this thing by youtube-quality clips on the internet.

Ultimately too, you're being silly to expect so much. Of course it's not going to sound EXACTLY like the 16 amps it mimics... if it did, for $500, then the amplifier business would go under. But then $500 can't get you those 16 amps either.

You absolutely cannot use a 100w stack in a high rise apartment. That's where modelling comes in.

You're missing the point. When they make a statement like this: "Superior articulation, tangible touch-response and unparalleled warmth and feel – HD modeling defies the accepted standard." and it still sounds the same as the last one, there is an expected disappointment in expectations.

$500, by the way, should buy a lot. It's still a lot of money and it's not about getting THE amps for the money, it's about getting something that really emulates and sounds like the real thing. Line6 hasn't done anything to come closer than they did since the first POD.

In fact, I'd go as far as saying that I actually liked POD 1.0 better than any model thereafter. I think it just sounded better. The point is $500 is a lot of money and for only $300 more you can get an Eleven Rack which actually sounds and feels closer to the amps it models than the POD HD does.

Furthermore, I've read countless internet threads where they post clips and say I betcha can't tell the modeler from the real thing. Maybe at first you can't but sooner or later your ears are going to catch on and it's not going to sound as appealing.

For those people who think nothing of recording an album with a modeler I say go ahead but whatever influence you have initially will wear off. I've listened to many albums recorded with Amplitube, POD, AxeFX, etc... but over time I somehow start not liking the tone. I look into it and find out it was modeled. I don't have that same feeling when listening to EVH or Live After Death 20 years later.

That's my opinion of course, but I think when it comes time to lay down tracks it should be done with a tube amp. Modelers to me are still limited by the fact that they're not real sounding in the end.
 
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The point is $500 is a lot of money and for only $300 more you can get an Eleven Rack which actually sounds and feels closer to the amps it models than the POD HD does.

I thought these weren't out yet. How did you get to play one? And why did you bother playing one if you don't like the way Line 6 stuff sounds?
 
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I don't see how my saying that you can't judge it from a youtube-quality clip is really missing the point when your response is that the youtube-quality clip doesn't sound good.

The bottom line is that... you have not placed with this device in person. Therefore, you cannot have a good idea of what it sounds like.

I remember the first time i plugged into a JCM800 after having heard them online, it was a beautiful experience. The thing didn't sound like the youtube clips at all.

I was referring to the part where you said you "laugh at people..." The clips on the website I mentioned are not youtube quality clips. Those are studio quality clips from Line6. In any case it doesn't matter because you can find PLENTY of youtube amp clips that sound great with a camera mic.

There's no excuse for having a new, acclaimed product that doesn't meet expectations. Line6 in my opinion has failed in that regard.
 
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