Line 6 Spider II 15 mini-rant (IOW) a Harmony Central style review

JeffB

Let it B
OK, I've only had it two days, and I already hate it :D

Maybe hate is too strong of a word, but AFAIC, the Spider's are just not very good amps.

Positives:
Tons of gain. "Metal" channel will do typical scooped mid recto if thats your thing. Also with the gain backed off to about 9 oclock on this channel, it'll do a neat cranked fender type sound.

Price, I guess.

Loud for it's size.

Lightweight & portable

Looks neat and the guys who write the manuals and make the videos on the Line 6 website seem really "hip" and funny :rolleyes:

Negatives:

First and foremost, the Marshall ("crunch") channel is pathetic. It has no warmth and sounds nothing like any marshall I've ever owned/heard/played. Tone controls hardly affect this channel. It sounds really fake..like the original digital distortions from 15 years ago (boss me-50 digital floor pedal thing..:vomit: ) The only redeeming quality is that you can switch to a different channel, thank god. Jumped input variac'ed brown sound my a$$! :yell:

Metal channel is buzzy. Much more than any rectifier I've fooled with. Anyone ever plug an old Rat or Boss Heavy Metal pedal into the clean channel of a rockman? That's "recto" as far as the designers at Line 6 are concerned :rolleyes:

Insane..I'm not really sure why they even bothered to include this..this...this...thing. Perhaps if you have a single coil pup where the magnets are pretty much dead? Makes the metal channel sound as smooth as a baby's butt. Could they not have spent a little more time/$ tweaking the other channels instead of putting this fairly useless 4th channel in?

Clean. It's clean for sure. and sterile and very compressed. It's not fendery clean, or even jazz chorus clean. It's more like a rockman clean, but more sterile and def not as cool. OK for funk music I guess.

Effects are actually kind of fun, except you cannot get a good slow sweep chorus. I tried for 10 minutes to tweak the knob ever so slightly and I'm either sounding out of tune, or I'm into the Flanger. :rolleyes: Delays are not bad. Flanger is pretty good. Phaser is fun to play with. Tremelo and reverb are almost as bad as the chorus.

On every channel you will hear the digital "glitching". Just wierd funky stuff.

Yeah it's a 150 dollar practice amp. I didn't expect it to sound like a Plexi,VHT or my Mesa. But It's hard to practice when the sound is so poor you don't want to play. The Behringer practice combos are similar in price and sound much warmer/more amp-like.

Perhaps "hate" is not too strong a word after all.

It's going back to Sam Ash and I'll pick up a Vox 15 watter or similar. I urge others to def not buy one of these things without trying first and a/b ing it against some other amps in the same $ range.
 
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Re: Line 6 Spider II 15 mini-rant (IOW) a Harmony Central style review

yeah, i thought the 15w sounded pretty weak and the 30w was just mediocre. i really liked the 75w one though, which is why i bought one. thats my new practice amp
 
Re: Line 6 Spider II 15 mini-rant (IOW) a Harmony Central style review

Your review is DEAD ON for my old SpiderI 50 watt. I hated the marshall channel. nothing like a marshall. Insane was useless. Recto was decent, but not my style. The cleans were... alright.

It sounded fake

GET THE VOX!!!
slade
 
Re: Line 6 Spider II 15 mini-rant (IOW) a Harmony Central style review

i have the Spider II 30w and it's a good practice amp for a smaller room and since i'm mainly using the meta channel on it i'm not realy bothered by the thin sounding crunch channel. good for practice but on stage the Vetta II combinedwith a ful stack with 8x12" speakers seriously kicks ass.
 
Re: Line 6 Spider II 15 mini-rant (IOW) a Harmony Central style review

Man you summed up my same thoughts pretty well. I bought this as my first amp and i've only been playing a little less than a year and it didn't take me too long to figure out that the tone was sub-par. I'll probably sell it on eBay and get me a Vox like Mr. Danglybanger recommended unless i find something else that just 'speaks' to me.
 
Re: Line 6 Spider II 15 mini-rant (IOW) a Harmony Central style review

On the Line 6 website the 15 and 30 watt Spider ll's sound crappy like you described but the bigger ones sound a lot better I think. So I'm still thinking of getting the 75 watt Spider ll like ex-250 has.
 
Re: Line 6 Spider II 15 mini-rant (IOW) a Harmony Central style review

Try the Roland Cube series, I hear RAVE reviews about them. I'm thinking of picking up a MicroCube or Cube 15 to use as a desktop practice amp.
 
Re: Line 6 Spider II 15 mini-rant (IOW) a Harmony Central style review

LOL..sorry for the rant :D I was just out of my skull at how bad it sounded.

The 75's do sound a bit better, but still are not very good IMO. They still have the same digital glitchy stuff going on. I would upgrade to the Flextone if I were considering a Line 6 amp.

Vettas are nice too..for that kind of money tho, think I'd go with the Hughes & Kettner...best modeler I've heard.

I took the Spider back and got a(nother) Vox Valvetronix. 30 watter (wanted the variable power dial). Sounds very good (as expected), just hope it lasts longer than my 50 watter and my buddies 30 watter did.
 
Re: Line 6 Spider II 15 mini-rant (IOW) a Harmony Central style review

FretFire said:
Try the Roland Cube series, I hear RAVE reviews about them. I'm thinking of picking up a MicroCube or Cube 15 to use as a desktop practice amp.

Ditto. All high end stuff has great quality. Low end stuff, you want to be sure that you really like it. Listen to the demos of the Roland gear at
http://www.rolandus.com/products/subcategory.asp?CatID=7&SubCatID=32, then pick the amp of choice and check out the sound files, as well as the live video demos of the microcube and the cube 60. Lightweight and great sounds.
 
Re: Line 6 Spider II 15 mini-rant (IOW) a Harmony Central style review

Also, the Guitar Player Magazine reviews said essentially that they have great sounds for the price. That, to me, is a dead giveaway for "I wouldn't buy this, because it sucks, but some kid without a lot of money would get some kicks out of sounding like some people on the radio."
 
Re: Line 6 Spider II 15 mini-rant (IOW) a Harmony Central style review

it says line 6 on it. :D
thats a joke guys.

germ
 
Re: Line 6 Spider II 15 mini-rant (IOW) a Harmony Central style review

RUN, DON'T WALK back to that store, give their Spider back & demand a TECH21 Trademark 10.....skip on home & you won't look back!!!! :beerchug:
 
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