Locking tuners??

[ledzepp29]

I've been tossin around the idea of puttin grovers on my les paul because when I play on sunday mornings at my church after each song I step on my tu-2 tuner and my G string goes flat like 2-3 "dots" and my B like 1-2. It gets better as the strings wear in but it still goes flat after a couple songs. Would a set of grovers keep the tune better? And also, specificly what do grover locking tuners do? do they hold better tune than the regular grovers?

 

[FretFire]

Re: Locking tuners??

Locking tuners simply clamp down on the string inside the shaft of the tuning machine to keep it from slipping. It eliminates any winding around the shaft, you put the string through, pull as taut as you can, clamp down, and tune up. I use Sperzels on the two guitars I have w/out a locknut, and it usually takes about half a winding at most to get up to pitch.

 

[JimiHWannaBe]

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sperzels work great i would highy recomend getting them on your guitar

 

[john5959]

Re: Locking tuners??

hey led zep
I noticed you said that it gets better as the strings wear in. When you first put fresh strings on you should stretch them repeatedly until the string no longer goes out of tune. I usually stretch and retune each string about ten to twelve times.
If your doing the above but they are still going flat - try a sharp pencil in the grooves of your nut (make sure its the nut on your guitar! lol) and saddles which will help lower the friction . Also thier is a great way of stringing a guitar that I just started using u can find it in the vault i think. If all that doesnt work u might want to take it to a guitar tech.

 

[ledzepp29]

Re: Locking tuners??

hey led zep
I noticed you said that it gets better as the strings wear in. When you first put fresh strings on you should stretch them repeatedly until the string no longer goes out of tune. I usually stretch and retune each string about ten to twelve times.
If your doing the above but they are still going flat - try a sharp pencil in the grooves of your nut (make sure its the nut on your guitar! lol) and saddles which will help lower the friction . Also thier is a great way of stringing a guitar that I just started using u can find it in the vault i think. If all that doesnt work u might want to take it to a guitar tech.

ya, I strech them abit, more like play them, lots of bends then retune and do it again and again until it stays. I'll take a look at the thread in the vault Thanks!

 

[theodie]

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The good old G string on a Les Paul. Here is what I suggest, Get your nut worked on first by a good tech first. Les Pauls always have problems with the g string. When you tune your guitar you may be able to hear the G make a "chink" sort of sound. That is because the string is binding in the nut then sudden releases and also the Les Paul dosent have a straight string pull. Locking tunes are great but until the nut is working at 100% I would hold off on them.

 

[john5959]

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ya, I strech them abit, more like play them, lots of bends then retune and do it again and again until it stays. I'll take a look at the thread in the vault Thanks!

Thats just the thing though when ever i do it like that i seem to have more tuning probs. I know when i get my new strings on all i want to do is play the sucker but it only takes about 5 mins. Hold the string down on the fret board and stretch the string from above the pickups

 

[59paul]

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If your guitar is set-up properly, you DO NOT need locking tuners on a Les Paul. I Do recommend the Regular ( non-locking ) 18:1 Grover's, however.


Get the Les Paul properly set-up ( then MAINTAIN the set-up......if you go through season changes, changes in Temperature and Humidity throughout the year...you will need to occassionally check the set-up, and if need be you'll have to tweak, or have someone tweak, the set-up to keep it correct ), put on a set of the Regular Grover 18:1 Tuners, and you should have no problems at all.....................

 

[Mincer]

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locking tuners should be on every guitar, LPs included. For quick string changes alone, I will never use any other type of tuner.

 

[the guy who invented fire]

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The good old G string on a Les Paul. Here is what I suggest, Get your nut worked on first by a good tech first. Les Pauls always have problems with the g string. When you tune your guitar you may be able to hear the G make a "chink" sort of sound. That is because the string is binding in the nut then sudden releases and also the Les Paul dosent have a straight string pull. Locking tunes are great but until the nut is working at 100% I would hold off on them.

what this guy said...trust me he's right!!

 

[JB_From_Hell]

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I use guitars with blocked Floyds. Nothin' beats a locking nut for keeping you in tune

Don't they make fine tuner bridges/tail pieces for tune-o-matic setups?

 

[ledzepp29]

Re: Locking tuners??

If your guitar is set-up properly, you DO NOT need locking tuners on a Les Paul. I Do recommend the Regular ( non-locking ) 18:1 Grover's, however.


Get the Les Paul properly set-up ( then MAINTAIN the set-up......if you go through season changes, changes in Temperature and Humidity throughout the year...you will need to occassionally check the set-up, and if need be you'll have to tweak, or have someone tweak, the set-up to keep it correct ), put on a set of the Regular Grover 18:1 Tuners, and you should have no problems at all.....................

I think I'll just get the grovers and get the tech to setup the guitar and install the tuners. I did have problems with dead notes when I bent up but I just raised the action and its gone but its a tad to high now. I'll just knock out two birds with one stone

 

[orbiter]

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forgive and correct me if I am wrong .. but I'm thinking the LP classics have vintage sized tuners .. and thus .. the grovers wont be a "drop in" fit.

I'll just echo whats been said above .. the guitar needs a good set-up ..

 

[MattPete]

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I use guitars with blocked Floyds. Nothin' beats a locking nut for keeping you in tune

Don't they make fine tuner bridges/tail pieces for tune-o-matic setups?

Yep. Considering that my Floyds stay in tune better than my hardtails, I was thinking about going that route (locking nut + fine tuning bridge). Maybe something like this:



http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges...haller_Bridges_with_Fine_Tuner_Tailpiece.html

 

[Mincer]

Re: Locking tuners??

check out the Gibson TP6 tailpiece (for LPs and such)...it is not as huge as the bridges above and won't add 5 pounds to your guitar.