making cheap guitars awesome
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verbotenco
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We never had any 'need'. We have the 'want'. You don't spend money on a Bentley cause of need, cause of want. Somebody from Maserati actually pointed it out blatantly. It's not the car you need, but the car you want.
Who the **** doesn't want to be associated with something of a high value? Anyone who doesn't give a **** about classy **** must be lying. Can't blame the marketers. It's just we humans have ego that need to be satiated.
We never had any 'need'. We have the 'want'. You don't spend money on a Bentley cause of need, cause of want. Somebody from Maserati actually pointed it out blatantly. It's not the car you need, but the car you want.
Who the **** doesn't want to be associated with something of a high value? Anyone who doesn't give a **** about classy **** must be lying. Can't blame the marketers. It's just we humans have ego that need to be satiated.
verbotenco
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Then there's no point of buying a Gibson cause you don't actually pay for stuff of better material, but compensate the company for the higher cost of doing business, no?
Then there's no point of buying a Gibson cause you don't actually pay for stuff of better material, but compensate the company for the higher cost of doing business, no?
Snake Aces
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There is one point of buying a Gibson: They are kick-ass guitars.
There is one point of buying a Gibson: They are kick-ass guitars.
DreX
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DreX
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So imperious and better than everybody.
Anybody care to guess who the other one is?
So imperious and better than everybody.
Anybody care to guess who the other one is?
Snake Aces
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I should print a lot of their responses in case I ever run out of toilet paper.
I should print a lot of their responses in case I ever run out of toilet paper.
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Anyway, to the op: I agree with almost all of that. Even 'good' guitars benefit from proper shielding, especially when using a lot of distortion. Gibson actually used to put the LP electronics in pre-assembled, shielded cans back in the late 70s/early 80s. The switch and jack were also in grounded metal tubes. When it was all hooked up right, it worked great.
Also, agreed with Itsabass in regards to the nut slots. I used to think tuners were to blame but it's usually the strings binding in the slots that cause the problem. Left to my own devices, everything would have lockers but that's just because I'm lazy.
Anyway, to the op: I agree with almost all of that. Even 'good' guitars benefit from proper shielding, especially when using a lot of distortion. Gibson actually used to put the LP electronics in pre-assembled, shielded cans back in the late 70s/early 80s. The switch and jack were also in grounded metal tubes. When it was all hooked up right, it worked great.
Also, agreed with Itsabass in regards to the nut slots. I used to think tuners were to blame but it's usually the strings binding in the slots that cause the problem. Left to my own devices, everything would have lockers but that's just because I'm lazy.
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I got them for ruggedness as well as the price, although the early Peavey amps were a tad muddy (later figured out that it was the SPEAKER-more of a PA speaker than a guitar range.Once I got that ironed out and replaced with a Celestion, I got a decent tone out of it). I will say that that little amp held up, and I NEVER had to rely on a back up rig.
A lot of this topic is relative to each player, so no two people are gonna' have the same opinion on the matter.
I got them for ruggedness as well as the price, although the early Peavey amps were a tad muddy (later figured out that it was the SPEAKER-more of a PA speaker than a guitar range.Once I got that ironed out and replaced with a Celestion, I got a decent tone out of it). I will say that that little amp held up, and I NEVER had to rely on a back up rig.
A lot of this topic is relative to each player, so no two people are gonna' have the same opinion on the matter.
DreX
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Everybody's guitar-related experience is wrong because it's not inline with your own. Do you have some kind of disorder?
That's got to be it. You consistently act like my autistic son. Are you on the spectrum? That would explain a LOT, especially the inability to understand differing opinions.
Everybody's guitar-related experience is wrong because it's not inline with your own. Do you have some kind of disorder?
That's got to be it. You consistently act like my autistic son. Are you on the spectrum? That would explain a LOT, especially the inability to understand differing opinions.
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DreX
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An interesting thing to consider was the Epi Elitest series, Asian made guitars that boasted all the same appointments of an American made guitar, and it had a price point somewhere between foreign made and American made, and it didn't sell too well. I think what the premium guitar buyer is saying is that it's not enough that a guitar be premium, it must also have cachet or I'm not going to buy it. So the question becomes, what's truly more important, cachet or quality?
Ridiculously true.
There was, it was called the "Unintelligence Group" (failed attempt at irony), and it was shut down by the admins because it was the very thing you describe.
An interesting thing to consider was the Epi Elitest series, Asian made guitars that boasted all the same appointments of an American made guitar, and it had a price point somewhere between foreign made and American made, and it didn't sell too well. I think what the premium guitar buyer is saying is that it's not enough that a guitar be premium, it must also have cachet or I'm not going to buy it. So the question becomes, what's truly more important, cachet or quality?
Ridiculously true.
There was, it was called the "Unintelligence Group" (failed attempt at irony), and it was shut down by the admins because it was the very thing you describe.
DreX
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I see you're just a troll with connections to the company, which is why you're teflon. That's cool.
Pestilence.
Guitar related? I hope every single one of your necks twist. Amen.
And if you think the UIG is gone, you're lying to yourself.
I see you're just a troll with connections to the company, which is why you're teflon. That's cool.
Pestilence.
Guitar related? I hope every single one of your necks twist. Amen.
And if you think the UIG is gone, you're lying to yourself.
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Nobody has a problem with you; it's your forum etiquette. You are one of the most obstinate people I've ever come across. This entire thread and every other thread you've been involved in would have been better without you in it.
I know that sounds weird coming from me with 3 vacations under my belt, but there it is.
For the record, I also am a huge fan of MIJ geets, so we do have at least one thing in common. They've never let me down and never fail to impress if you do your homework.
Nobody has a problem with you; it's your forum etiquette. You are one of the most obstinate people I've ever come across. This entire thread and every other thread you've been involved in would have been better without you in it.
I know that sounds weird coming from me with 3 vacations under my belt, but there it is.
For the record, I also am a huge fan of MIJ geets, so we do have at least one thing in common. They've never let me down and never fail to impress if you do your homework.
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