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anybody have any good bad or ugly info on a Marshall JCM 2000 DSL...
marshall JCM2000
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Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: marshall JCM2000
come on guys...no body here has a Marshall DSL...
come on guys...no body here has a Marshall DSL...
strat_master
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Re: marshall JCM2000
I presonally never played one, and i dont really plan on getting a marshall dsl right now, i have my sights set on a mesa boogie amp, but i know alot fo people on the board do play marshall dsl's. Mainly 50 watts i belive. Well so im basically just bumping this.
I presonally never played one, and i dont really plan on getting a marshall dsl right now, i have my sights set on a mesa boogie amp, but i know alot fo people on the board do play marshall dsl's. Mainly 50 watts i belive. Well so im basically just bumping this.
drew_half_empty
Looking for Real Life
Re: marshall JCM2000
800's are the only good jcm's dude, seriously
800's are the only good jcm's dude, seriously
chcjunior
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Re: marshall JCM2000
I had the DSL 50 and thought it was a very versatile amp with really good tone....that's the good info. The bad info is that I got three DSL 50's in a row with reliability issues....however, alot of individuals on this board have had the same amps with no issues.
I had the DSL 50 and thought it was a very versatile amp with really good tone....that's the good info. The bad info is that I got three DSL 50's in a row with reliability issues....however, alot of individuals on this board have had the same amps with no issues.
Jeff_H
Dean Hardtail Fanologist
Re: marshall JCM2000
The DSL is actually the best amp Marshall has come out with since the 800's. I did a ton of research prior to purchaing my JCM800, and found a pretty consistent opinion on the DLS's from those in the know.
Over at the Marshall, many of the members, including the founder and moderator, consider the DSL to again have the best modern Marshall tone. They also say that it can be dialed in to get Plexi sounds, as well as JCM 800 tones. Additionally, the cleans are some of the best that Marshall has ever done in their 2 channel amps. I have played a DSL or 2 at shops, but not at volumes loud enough to really get a feel for the ole' girl.
I know chcjunior had some bad luck with the one's he purchased, but if I were considering a new production Marshall, the only one's I would look at are the DSL 50's and the 1987x RI. Just remember, opinions are like a-holes...everyone's got one. Try to get out and play one for yourself. I know that's a tired statement, but it's the truest one there is.
The DSL is actually the best amp Marshall has come out with since the 800's. I did a ton of research prior to purchaing my JCM800, and found a pretty consistent opinion on the DLS's from those in the know.
Over at the Marshall, many of the members, including the founder and moderator, consider the DSL to again have the best modern Marshall tone. They also say that it can be dialed in to get Plexi sounds, as well as JCM 800 tones. Additionally, the cleans are some of the best that Marshall has ever done in their 2 channel amps. I have played a DSL or 2 at shops, but not at volumes loud enough to really get a feel for the ole' girl.
I know chcjunior had some bad luck with the one's he purchased, but if I were considering a new production Marshall, the only one's I would look at are the DSL 50's and the 1987x RI. Just remember, opinions are like a-holes...everyone's got one. Try to get out and play one for yourself. I know that's a tired statement, but it's the truest one there is.
Davey
Goliath of Tone
Re: marshall JCM2000
played the combo version and the head version through a 1960 cab.. i messed with each on different occasions for about an hour to two and really couldnt dial a tone that i liked. the distortion wasnt thick enough for my taste and it was just blah for my ears.. the head version is a bit better (probably cos of the cab) but i'd still prefer a 800. (i played with a music man usa petrucci sig)
take it for what it's worth
played the combo version and the head version through a 1960 cab.. i messed with each on different occasions for about an hour to two and really couldnt dial a tone that i liked. the distortion wasnt thick enough for my taste and it was just blah for my ears.. the head version is a bit better (probably cos of the cab) but i'd still prefer a 800. (i played with a music man usa petrucci sig)
take it for what it's worth
Re: marshall JCM2000
Actually, I'd rank the DSL and JCM 800 pretty much on par, except for build quality. IMO, the JCM 800 is very much overhyped (unless you do some simple gain mods).
tl;dr: IMHO, the only great Marshalls are the plexi's (especially if fitted with a Rich master volume mod!).
drew_half_empty said:
Actually, I'd rank the DSL and JCM 800 pretty much on par, except for build quality. IMO, the JCM 800 is very much overhyped (unless you do some simple gain mods).
tl;dr: IMHO, the only great Marshalls are the plexi's (especially if fitted with a Rich master volume mod!).
Neeradj
New member
Re: marshall JCM2000
All the DSLs have serious reliablility issues. A dude I know had a DSL201 which broke down in the middle of playing it, he was very careful with it since it was his first tube amp (at least I think it was). He send it back to the store, who had direct contact with Marshall. Marshall is awesome as how the story continues. They couldn't fix it, so they send him a brand new DSL401, absolutely free! Now that's what I call customer service. Hope that one won't break down on him though *knock on wood* :newangel:
I played the DSL50 about a month ago or maybe a little later. I turned the gain to 10 immediately to test how badass this thing could get. Hated the thin non-dynamic sound with the Pearly Gates Plus neck pick up, or the '59 bridge. Then I turned on the boost, and wow did somebody stomp an oak three up a dragon's ass or what, this thing absolutely turned BRAAAAAH! when I played an Eminor. This thing was a kinda NU-metal, but palm mutes did come thru well. Not as good as my Boogie but heck, pretty good for a Marshall. I didn't think much about the clean ups, haven't heard a good Marshall clean up since the JCM800, but that didn't even sound Marshall. Leads weren't great, but that was mostly the guitar's fault, couldn't get used to the overly high action (it was almost unplayable when soloing). Pick ups were great though
I felt this thing missed a lot of dynamics and harmonics which I could easilly get with a JCM800 or most tube amps for that matter. It wasn't flat or anything, but it was kinda average. I'd save up for another amp because I'd then be happier about my sound, but that's just me
Oh BTW, I did turn the gain down and messed with other settings, I was in the room for about an hour I think. I got a little tired of it afterwards
All the DSLs have serious reliablility issues. A dude I know had a DSL201 which broke down in the middle of playing it, he was very careful with it since it was his first tube amp (at least I think it was). He send it back to the store, who had direct contact with Marshall. Marshall is awesome as how the story continues. They couldn't fix it, so they send him a brand new DSL401, absolutely free! Now that's what I call customer service. Hope that one won't break down on him though *knock on wood* :newangel:
I played the DSL50 about a month ago or maybe a little later. I turned the gain to 10 immediately to test how badass this thing could get. Hated the thin non-dynamic sound with the Pearly Gates Plus neck pick up, or the '59 bridge. Then I turned on the boost, and wow did somebody stomp an oak three up a dragon's ass or what, this thing absolutely turned BRAAAAAH! when I played an Eminor. This thing was a kinda NU-metal, but palm mutes did come thru well. Not as good as my Boogie but heck, pretty good for a Marshall. I didn't think much about the clean ups, haven't heard a good Marshall clean up since the JCM800, but that didn't even sound Marshall. Leads weren't great, but that was mostly the guitar's fault, couldn't get used to the overly high action (it was almost unplayable when soloing). Pick ups were great though
I felt this thing missed a lot of dynamics and harmonics which I could easilly get with a JCM800 or most tube amps for that matter. It wasn't flat or anything, but it was kinda average. I'd save up for another amp because I'd then be happier about my sound, but that's just me
Oh BTW, I did turn the gain down and messed with other settings, I was in the room for about an hour I think. I got a little tired of it afterwards
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y2stevo
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Re: marshall JCM2000
I have a DSL50 and Love it, I agree with Jeff-H's post on all counts, Yu can even go as far back as 1978 with EVH's tones from the Plexi..Ill agree with Neeradj in where he didnt like the Boost feature, Im not fond of it either but thats only because i like a brighter more mid driven tone so i never use it anyway..IMO once you get it to about 4 on the volume it comes alive..Personally I love this amp and the OD you can get out of it, I also love the crunch channel, You can get a Crazy blues tone out of this..IMO the Cleas are almost Fender like, and it has alot of headroom...
IMO you can get all the classic marshall tones from this amp, early clapton,to EVH to Sabbath to maiden!! :laugh2:
Thats what ive heard too, Havnet really heard of any with the Heads..mrid said:
I have a DSL50 and Love it, I agree with Jeff-H's post on all counts, Yu can even go as far back as 1978 with EVH's tones from the Plexi..Ill agree with Neeradj in where he didnt like the Boost feature, Im not fond of it either but thats only because i like a brighter more mid driven tone so i never use it anyway..IMO once you get it to about 4 on the volume it comes alive..Personally I love this amp and the OD you can get out of it, I also love the crunch channel, You can get a Crazy blues tone out of this..IMO the Cleas are almost Fender like, and it has alot of headroom...
IMO you can get all the classic marshall tones from this amp, early clapton,to EVH to Sabbath to maiden!! :laugh2:
RGN
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Re: marshall JCM2000
I have owned DSL50 and a DSL100 and both were really outstanding Marshalls. I have owned a Plexi, and a JCM900 and prefer the JCM2000 over these in terms of ease of use.
The clean is very good. The distortion is very Marshall-like- even at bedroom levels. I think you need to do more than just play one a few minutes in a GC. It usually takes me at least 3 or 4 days to really start to get a feel for a head. I think you can get great sounds in minutes but it may take a day or two for you to really dial it in. For the money the DSL50 is about as good as it gets.
I have owned DSL50 and a DSL100 and both were really outstanding Marshalls. I have owned a Plexi, and a JCM900 and prefer the JCM2000 over these in terms of ease of use.
The clean is very good. The distortion is very Marshall-like- even at bedroom levels. I think you need to do more than just play one a few minutes in a GC. It usually takes me at least 3 or 4 days to really start to get a feel for a head. I think you can get great sounds in minutes but it may take a day or two for you to really dial it in. For the money the DSL50 is about as good as it gets.
midnite_man
New member
Re: marshall JCM2000
Many tube combo amps are notorious for heat dissipation issues...after all, everything's in a box at least semi-enclosed, with the amp screwed to the top of the cabinet. The heat's gotta rise up somewhere. I'm thinking the metal grill on the back of a JCM2000 head should help that heat problem better than some other closed-back head cases.
I just bought a DSL50 head that's coming my way very soon and haven't had much experience with this amp or any other Marshalls, but I, too, did a lot of research on the JCM2000 and all other models new and old - and came up with the same conclusion as Jeff H. and others in regards to sound, versatility, and supposedly the better of their line of newer amps....the DSL50 was the coice for my first Marshall and who knows...I could end up going to an old JCM800 2204 head or a 1987x (don't think I could go too old 'cause they're so damn expensive to buy anymore) if the DSL's sound doesn't rock my world. At least I have something I could sell to buy a different Marshall with.
....B
mrid said:
Many tube combo amps are notorious for heat dissipation issues...after all, everything's in a box at least semi-enclosed, with the amp screwed to the top of the cabinet. The heat's gotta rise up somewhere. I'm thinking the metal grill on the back of a JCM2000 head should help that heat problem better than some other closed-back head cases.
I just bought a DSL50 head that's coming my way very soon and haven't had much experience with this amp or any other Marshalls, but I, too, did a lot of research on the JCM2000 and all other models new and old - and came up with the same conclusion as Jeff H. and others in regards to sound, versatility, and supposedly the better of their line of newer amps....the DSL50 was the coice for my first Marshall and who knows...I could end up going to an old JCM800 2204 head or a 1987x (don't think I could go too old 'cause they're so damn expensive to buy anymore) if the DSL's sound doesn't rock my world. At least I have something I could sell to buy a different Marshall with.
....B
Re: marshall JCM2000
I seriously considered getting a DSL50 head but opted for the Mesa Rectoverb 50w (fitted with EL34s) for better tone and build quality.
Granted, there are good tones to be had out of those DSLs but you have to throttle the amps to get at them.
Just save up and get a Bogner Ecstasy and get it over with haha
I seriously considered getting a DSL50 head but opted for the Mesa Rectoverb 50w (fitted with EL34s) for better tone and build quality.
Granted, there are good tones to be had out of those DSLs but you have to throttle the amps to get at them.
Just save up and get a Bogner Ecstasy and get it over with haha
