Marshall vs Laney

Marshall vs Laney

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Re: Marshall vs Laney

Ayrton said:
I don't think that is a slag on Laney or anything, just one mans taste changing.
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Yeah I guess. I know Marshall is not "paying anything" but you know things might be changing, its not like its just them and 3 other companies.
 
Re: Marshall vs Laney

SixStringSales said:
It certainly says nothing about the quality and sound of Laney amps. They're foreign made amps that aren't stocked on the shelves of Guitar Center. Same can be said for Bogner. I bet you can count those with your little fingers too.

I'm not saying this to be offensive but for the amount of experience you claim to have you seem kinda uninformed. I guess we all have our likes and dislikes but writing something off without really knowing anything about it isn't exactly the smartest way to go about it.
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What did I say about likes & dislikes????

Just said... very simply... and clearly... (I thought) that I've less then rarely, ever... encountered a Lamey amp in the heat of battle. Can't say I've ever had to call SIR and get one rented...

Nor I have I ever really seen them in stores... on dingy club stages, rock star stages or studios.

They just ain't out there. I'm pretty open minded... if I run across it fine, if not... fine.

And yes... I've seen & placed mics on FAR more Bogners... Soldanos...

But really man, WTF is with your constantly taking shots & jabs at me???

What did I EVER do to you?

I even tried being nice to you early on when people were slagging you... and you wouldn't even tell me your name... singed the PM "SSS".

What a joke.

Think I'm kidding?

Go to www.swampadelica.com & check out the press release... you tell ME what & who's studio we just tracked that record at...

I seem to have forgotten...

You sir... are a fool.
 
Re: Marshall vs Laney

For while Marshall was starting to become a bit boring, but I heard the JVM410 and I must say the tone was very impressive IMO. Heaps of gain and finally Marshall's true foray into the high gain market (the JCM2000 series had only just not enough gain for lead playing for my liking).
 
Re: Marshall vs Laney

I've got limited experience with Laney and Marshall but I know I like the VC-30 loved the soundclips of the lionheart and the laney solidstates (cheap things) I play at school aren't bad (better then some solid states I've played).
 
Re: Marshall vs Laney

J Moose said:
What did I say about likes & dislikes????

Just said... very simply... and clearly... (I thought) that I've less then rarely, ever... encountered a Lamey amp in the heat of battle. Can't say I've ever had to call SIR and get one rented...

Nor I have I ever really seen them in stores... on dingy club stages, rock star stages or studios.

They just ain't out there. I'm pretty open minded... if I run across it fine, if not... fine.

And yes... I've seen & placed mics on FAR more Bogners... Soldanos...

But really man, WTF is with your constantly taking shots & jabs at me???

What did I EVER do to you?

I even tried being nice to you early on when people were slagging you... and you wouldn't even tell me your name... singed the PM "SSS".

What a joke.

Think I'm kidding?

Go to www.swampadelica.com & check out the press release... you tell ME what & who's studio we just tracked that record at...

I seem to have forgotten...

You sir... are a fool.
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1. Not that it matters "whose" studio a record was cut at. You can drive around Dallas or Houston all day and find recording studios on every street corner where there's an aspiring rapper.

2. My name has nothing to do with it. I don't give my name to people on the internet generally unless I'm doing business with them. Other than that I don't like to give personal information or talk on the telephone. It's more foolish to judge a person based on something like that.

3. I don't take jabs at you. I find that we disagree on some issues so I make a debate, however I still keep it civil. You don't see me name calling.

4. You seem to think you are entitled to having an authorative opinion because of your backgroun in music production so that makes other people's opinions less valid than your own. The difference between you and I is that I like to make my disagreement and state my case for it while you seem to take things as some kind of personal attack.

5. You purposefully refer to Laney as "Lamey," obviously suggesting that the amps are lame when your opinion is on the basis that you see more Crates in the studio than Laneys? Maybe I missed your point but my argument still is legitimate -> I don't think you have much experience with Laney amps.

6. What I'm really trying to get out of you is some real reasoning and logic to explain your opinions. I can see this debate went way out to left field so I'll end it now.

I apologize if I came off aggressive or offensive to you. In the future I'll try to either ignore your comments or be as tactful as possible so I won't offend your sensibilities.
 
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Re: Marshall vs Laney

Holy crap these things get out of hand.

Have no loyalty to anything but tone, I am very happy to have a Klipp era Laney L60,( tonally closer to a Supergroup, as it does not have the Klipp boost circuit in it) an 85 Laney AOR 100, as well as a 1989 Marshall RI that I set to predominatly Superbass specs. I love em all, the AOR and RI Plexi both were too bright tonally in stock form. The high value bright caps on the volumes are the vast majority of the issue for me. With simple tweaks all sound fantastic.

The vintage Laney differs from the stock Marshall Plexi/Metal Panel sound, it sits with lower mids, a little slower attack time on the note, and a a bit more open gain, much of that due to the Partridge Transformers. It does not have the upper mid bark of a Marshall, which for me is really cool. Darker for sure, but not muddy. It is a beautiful sounding head, unique voice that is true Brit but very much it's own color. I just finshed a song with it this week, will hopefully post it tonight.

The AOR is definately an 800 voice, honestly, thats where the money was in the 80s as Marshall clearly won the commercial battle.. I find them a bit steril stock, but as I said earlier, a bright cap change, and upping a couple other cap values, it is a GREAT sounding head. Every bit as good as a non master amp IMO. It is really finnicky about pre tubes, the wrong ones really sound bad... Mine is really voiced as a rock amp now, vs a metal amp. Still a great bargain and can sound every bit as good as an amp with an M on it.

The Plexi, is a voice most know. That classic Marshall sound is the voice of much of the rock I grew up with. Going to mostly Superbass specs gave it a fuller, fatter ,sound, while still retaining plenty of snarl. Again, it is a great sounding amp, very familiar and classic for sure.

For me, if I had to make a choice, I would opt for a vintage Laney, if I was only allowed to have on of em. The reason, it is a tone that very few people have, Marshall is pretty much the most cloned voice, so it is everywhere. I tend to chase sounds that most might not have, so the classic Laney sound is a great one to have at my disposal. If I lived across the pond, I would have snatched up a bunch of em, like I did with Traynors, cause they were so cheap.

To stress, the Laney sound is not nec better, but it is more unique and in this day and age of clone after clone, that speaks to me more.

If you can find a band called Trapeze ( Glen Hughes was in it for a while) those are the best Laney tones, and among the best rock tones I have ever heard. I have three albums on Vinyl, the stuff just kicks, you will hear the difference in sound really quickly. Argent also recorded with them and there are some good sounds going there as well.
 
Re: Marshall vs Laney

I just voted Marshall.

If you've got to have some awesome conspiracy theory about why your amp company hasn't succeeded over the course of 40 years- that explains it.
 
Re: Marshall vs Laney

kevlar3000 said:
The Fat Rocket

http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=6629152&q=hi

Hey Guys,

Here is the tune featuring the old Laney L60 head. Just got it done this week.....
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That was fantastic! Definitely had that vintage Laney vibe. You got a great style! I like vintage Laneys a lot. AOR is another fav too. The new stuff though it quite stellar. Most impressive in my opinion is the VH100 and TT50, with the TT50 being my personal fav of all Laneys. I think if people gave them a real shot they would catch on better. The price is high but you get so much for the money!
 
Re: Marshall vs Laney

JeffB said:
BWAHAHA! Sigworthy- :lmao:
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No it aint! That depends on how you define successful. Laney has managed to grow their business for 40 years. They helped define an era and continue to make new and more versatile amps. All I can say is that you should A/B a Laney and Marshall. If you do that I'm pretty sure you will have newfound respect for Laney amps.
 
Re: Marshall vs Laney

SixStringSales said:
No it aint! That depends on how you define successful. Laney has managed to grow their business for 40 years. They helped define an era and continue to make new and more versatile amps. All I can say is that you should A/B a Laney and Marshall. If you do that I'm pretty sure you will have newfound respect for Laney amps.
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Wow do you own Laney or something, no need to take it so personal.

The bottom line is there are not a lot of Laney users because the availability and marketing in the USA is almost none existent, the sound is nothing that can't be had with other amps, and for what they cost new, there are better amps.
 
Re: Marshall vs Laney

SixStringSales said:
No it aint! That depends on how you define successful. Laney has managed to grow their business for 40 years. They helped define an era and continue to make new and more versatile amps. All I can say is that you should A/B a Laney and Marshall. If you do that I'm pretty sure you will have newfound respect for Laney amps.
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Sure it is.

There's no problem in liking any given amp for any given logical or subjective reason. Whether it's because you prefer the sound, or that you're looking for something a little different than what other people are using or whatever. The issue is when you're making claims and theories and an unstable logical process to come up with reasons why Marshall is successful and Laney is less so.

Laney was relatively successful in the 80s. They did a lot of advertising in the 80s. Marshall had a relatively weak product in the 900s, but Laney STILL couldn't capitalize on it.

Over the course of time, Vox, Hiwatt, Orange, and even Sound City have been more visible than Laney. There's a reason somewhere.

But it's not because the aliens came from outer space and imbued Marshall with supernatural powers. It's not because the FBI and AT&T have mind control waves that send signals to rockers everywhere to not buy Laneys. It's not because everyone wants to be like Charles Nelson Reilly and the best way of achieving that is by playing Marshall.
 
Re: Marshall vs Laney

Ayrton said:
Wow do you own Laney or something, no need to take it so personal.

The bottom line is there are not a lot of Laney users because the availability and marketing in the USA is almost none existent, the sound is nothing that can't be had with other amps, and for what they cost new, there are better amps.
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This.
 
Re: Marshall vs Laney

Ayrton said:
Wow do you own Laney or something, no need to take it so personal.

The bottom line is there are not a lot of Laney users because the availability and marketing in the USA is almost none existent, the sound is nothing that can't be had with other amps, and for what they cost new, there are better amps.
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I'm not taking anything personally, just clarifying some points. I'm almost certain that people like yourself who make these kinds of comments have little or no experience with Laney amps. That's why I feel the need to clear up the myths and promote the company for what they are, a great amp builder. I can tell you right now nothing sounds like a Laney except a Laney!

Obviously you can buy other amps and cheaper but you could have said the exact same thing about Marshall, Koch, Bogner, Budda or any of the great brands. The reason for paying the money to get a great brand is because you want the sound it gives you.

Since going into business I have met people who played on an old AOR for 5 minutes and wrote Laney off. They are so surprised when they plug in a TT50 or VC30 because they had no idea!

Look at the poll. It's not far behind Marshall and that says a lot. Obviously with people like me defending Laney you should realize that there is probably something that makes their stuff great. Think about it.
 
Re: Marshall vs Laney

SixStringSales said:
Look at the poll. It's not far behind Marshall and that says a lot. .
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Internet messageboard polls are worthless. This poll has no kind of real world credibility about anything other than the approx 40 users polled here. Seriously.
 
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