Mesa Mark V continues to impress.

[NegativeEase]

Deal breaker is the 12” speaker. The 25 you have to compromise with a 10” speaker.


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I running an external twin V30 cabinet -not a combo unit

 

[Gtrjunior]

If you've never heard a Ceriatone Overtone Special 5O it's one of the nicest amps you'll ever hear for country or blues. I'm waiting to order one, just to have it if I need it. Yes they are that good.

Ceriatone makes KILLER amps from what I have seen/heard on YouTube.

 

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Gtrjunior

I had the pleasure of actually trying one. Someone had one for sale on Craigslist. I tried it and instantly fell in love. It was only $1000 too. I was just recently laid off because of Covid, and was too scared to spend the cash. He told me to come check it out anyway. I've kicked myself for not buying it ever since.

 

[Bogner]

That does it. I'm getting another freakin' Mesa/Boogie horizontal Recto-Cab. I'll figure the head out later.

4x12 4x12 4x12 4x12

 

[jeremy]

ill never buy another 4x12 again. a good 2x12 does everything i need it to do and even if the size difference isnt huge, the extra weight is unnecessary.

 

[GuitarStv]

I have to fill a room in a small home with sound, and I have dozens of demanding stuffed animal fans who want some rockin' tone. A 2x12 is just right.

Exactly! You don't want to be accidentally melting their cute little faces off.

 

[NegativeEase]

ill never buy another 4x12 again. a good 2x12 does everything i need it to do and even if the size difference isnt huge, the extra weight is unnecessary.

I have I think 4 or 5 4x12 cabs and I agree, they don't present an advantage for me at this point......

If anything, I'g do 2x12 and smaller 2x10 -to get that 10" aggro punchy blended in with the big fuller range 12s before going 4x12 again.

 

[GuitarStv]

Also, in roughly the space of a 4x12 cab, I could have a 2x12 combo and a 2x12 cabinet or two different cabs. I'm all about variety. I certainly don't need four of the same speaker, and even when I have two different speakers mixed in a 4x12 cabinet, I often wish I could physically separate them for a stereo rig. With two 2x12 cabs, one could like totally do that.

Sounds like someone really needs 4 1x12s . . .

 

[NegativeEase]

I have owned a high-quality 2x12 cab before and really liked it. I currently use 2x12 combos as my main amps. It is a good format for the way I play.

I'd rather use 2 2x12 than one internally unchambered 4x12 personally. -That way the air pressure is more focused.

 

[Gtrjunior]

Gtrjunior

I had the pleasure of actually trying one. Someone had one for sale on Craigslist. I tried it and instantly fell in love. It was only $1000 too. I was just recently laid off because of Covid, and was too scared to spend the cash. He told me to come check it out anyway. I've kicked myself for not buying it ever since.

If you were worried about money, I think you made the right decision.
But next time…

 

[Gtrjunior]

ill never buy another 4x12 again. a good 2x12 does everything i need it to do and even if the size difference isnt huge, the extra weight is unnecessary.

I have 3 2x12 cabs and just bought a Splawn 1x12 which surprisingly is only slightly smaller than my Marshall 1936.

I got rid of my 4x12 about 5-6 years ago and haven’t looked back

 

[jeremy]

I have I think 4 or 5 4x12 cabs and I agree, they don't present an advantage for me at this point......

If anything, I'g do 2x12 and smaller 2x10 -to get that 10" aggro punchy blended in with the big fuller range 12s before going 4x12 again.

i have exactly four guitar cabs: one 2x12, one 2x10, and two 1x12. and i cant imagine needing more. most of my amps are 1x12 combos so i can add a cab if i need more dispersion or if im running one of my two heads, i have options.

 

[PFDarkside]

I think the Mesa 2x12 Recto-Cab turned my TSL100 into the amp it was supposed to be.

What speakers were you running it through before? The V30s are the perfect rock speaker for me. I used to think Greenbacks and the variations on them were, but no… V30 is just it. If you were playing T75s and went to V30s plus the bigger Mesa cab…. That’s a huge difference!

 

[gsammo79]

If you've never heard a Ceriatone Overtone Special 5O it's one of the nicest amps you'll ever hear for country or blues. I'm waiting to order one, just to have it if I need it. Yes they are that good.

Thanks. I'll check them out, man.

 

[chadd]

ill never buy another 4x12 again. a good 2x12 does everything i need it to do and even if the size difference isnt huge, the extra weight is unnecessary.

I have a couple of each and prefer the 4x12 by a wide margin. I need the sound at my ears, not my knees to hear the cab. On smaller stages, you can't get far enough away for the sound of a horizontal 2x12 to get up without getting too loud. A good 4x12 slant gets the sound up to ear level at lower overall stage volume. More often than not, I find folks with 1x12 or 2x12 are running much higher stage volume without realizing it, because they can't hear it as well.

 

[Demanic]

I have a couple of each and prefer the 4x12 by a wide margin. I need the sound at my ears, not my knees to hear the cab. On smaller stages, you can't get far enough away for the sound of a horizontal 2x12 to get up without getting too loud. A good 4x12 slant gets the sound up to ear level at lower overall stage volume. More often than not, I find folks with 1x12 or 2x12 are running much higher stage volume without realizing it, because they can't hear it as well.

Part of what I like about the old Carvin straight cabs. The baffle is angled back about 12 degrees so more of your sound hits your ears. Or of course you can use an angled top cab. I suppose even a couple of door jams under the front of a straight 4x12 cab could improve the sound on a smaller stage.

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[Gtrjunior]

I have a couple of each and prefer the 4x12 by a wide margin. I need the sound at my ears, not my knees to hear the cab. On smaller stages, you can't get far enough away for the sound of a horizontal 2x12 to get up without getting too loud. A good 4x12 slant gets the sound up to ear level at lower overall stage volume. More often than not, I find folks with 1x12 or 2x12 are running much higher stage volume without realizing it, because they can't hear it as well.

I just run a little bit of guitar in my monitor. That way the actual stage volume doesn’t need to be too loud.

 

[PFDarkside]

I used to put my 2x12 up on a tall keyboard stand. Put the amp head on top of that, and it was the perfect height to tweak knobs while standing. I really need to get together a rig like that again. Lol, I have my Hot Rod Deluxe on a tilt-back stand, and with the controls on the top, they are severely angled away from me while I'm seated. It's still no picnic when I'm standing. I think that amp might have to go. I would put the money toward a Mesa. I think Mesas are my kind of amp.

Did you used to have a JVM410H?

 

[PFDarkside]

Yeah. I am kinda glad I sold it. It was a first-year unit with the floating pot shafts, which I was never crazy about. I was always afraid I was going to break them. That, and it would red-plate once in a while.

The Mesa Road King is like it’s Mesa brother. 4 channels, tons of options, three voices per channel, plus EL34/6L6 and cab switching. That or a Mark V would be awesome.

 

[chadd]

Part of what I like about the old Carvin straight cabs. The baffle is angled back about 12 degrees so more of your sound hits your ears. Or of course you can use an angled top cab. I suppose even a couple of door jams under the front of a straight 4x12 cab could improve the sound on a smaller stage.

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The problem with lifts under the front is making it slightly less stable for the head. A vertical 2x12 would be my ideal, but those don't pop up very often around here.

I just run a little bit of guitar in my monitor. That way the actual stage volume doesn’t need to be too loud.

It's not going out to the crowd, but it still contributes to volume on the stage. I've played with guys that were so loud on the other side of the stage that I can't hear myself, even with a monitor and a 4x12. I used to carry a black plywood shield that I would put about two feet in front of my cabinet. It wouldn't beam the crowd and whenever the other guy got that loud, I could just take a couple steps back and hear myself.

The Mesa Road King is like it’s Mesa brother. 4 channels, tons of options, three voices per channel, plus EL34/6L6 and cab switching. That or a Mark V would be awesome.

I had a Road King II, utterly fantastic amp. Channel 3 with EL34s was my favorite and got in the ballpark of Marshall tone. Channel 1 on tweed was the most versatile. Cut a little low end with an EQ to get almost Vox level chime and it took boosts (clean or added dirt) really well. Being able to choose which output (out of two cabinets) each channel's output went into blew my mind the first time I saw it.