Most under-rated guitar company
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RiffRaff
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I love hamers and G&L's, I think they're both very overlooked. The thing I like best about G&L's is you can get any of their models with a neck that fits your hands and playing styles, from thin to thick, 12" to 7" radius, maple or rosewood you can get any model with the neck you want. Try to get that with a fender or a gibson!
I love hamers and G&L's, I think they're both very overlooked. The thing I like best about G&L's is you can get any of their models with a neck that fits your hands and playing styles, from thin to thick, 12" to 7" radius, maple or rosewood you can get any model with the neck you want. Try to get that with a fender or a gibson!
WaR HeaD
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ibanez overrated? you are killing me dude...ibanez is the one brand everybody at the usa flames...and i dunno why, cause they are no bad guitars at all...people flames at ibanez only for his own floating bridge (which is just the predecessor to the floyd rose pro and by far better) and their wizard necks (althogh if you try a neck thru series rg you realize that these necks are very close to the ones Jackson or ESP builds)... or it is just because of their roster politics (yeah, maybe it could be true with the latest adds, but who can say anything bad about a Jem, a Joe Satriani or any of the jazz signature guitars, they even made that usa customs with the free tension necks, and they are making the best 7s by far, try the universe and the k7)...or it is just tradition...you HAVE to flame ibanez (well some flame ibanez/esp/jackson kinda superstrat/progresive brands to support traditional baseball bat guitars)
my vote would go for them but they are not listed...
edit: i thought also about cort, also great guitars (they build a lot of import axes for some brands also) for the price
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ibanez overrated? you are killing me dude...ibanez is the one brand everybody at the usa flames...and i dunno why, cause they are no bad guitars at all...people flames at ibanez only for his own floating bridge (which is just the predecessor to the floyd rose pro and by far better) and their wizard necks (althogh if you try a neck thru series rg you realize that these necks are very close to the ones Jackson or ESP builds)... or it is just because of their roster politics (yeah, maybe it could be true with the latest adds, but who can say anything bad about a Jem, a Joe Satriani or any of the jazz signature guitars, they even made that usa customs with the free tension necks, and they are making the best 7s by far, try the universe and the k7)...or it is just tradition...you HAVE to flame ibanez (well some flame ibanez/esp/jackson kinda superstrat/progresive brands to support traditional baseball bat guitars)
my vote would go for them but they are not listed...
edit: i thought also about cort, also great guitars (they build a lot of import axes for some brands also) for the price
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danglybanger
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I don't have a problem with Ibanez. I love the Wizard neck, I've never found them particularly "toneless" as people say... Though I'm not a trem person.
Anyways, no matter what kind of music you play, it's hard not to find someone you dislike holding an ibanez. Hate shred? Vai Satriani and Gilbert are fans. Hate nu metal? Korn and endless other cookie cutter bands love their ibanezes.
People inclined to dislike ibanez are pretty much the people who would only ever play a strat or gibson, or avid esp/jackson fans. Which pretty much includes everyone
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I don't have a problem with Ibanez. I love the Wizard neck, I've never found them particularly "toneless" as people say... Though I'm not a trem person.
Anyways, no matter what kind of music you play, it's hard not to find someone you dislike holding an ibanez. Hate shred? Vai Satriani and Gilbert are fans. Hate nu metal? Korn and endless other cookie cutter bands love their ibanezes.
People inclined to dislike ibanez are pretty much the people who would only ever play a strat or gibson, or avid esp/jackson fans. Which pretty much includes everyone
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Pecan
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In the cheaper range ibanez and cort are good value, people should really get over fender and gibson, their guitars are the biggest rip offs ever, yeh they have some good axes that are classics, and the strat, tele, SG, etc. are all worth getting, but they aren't the only brands out there, and they do charge about twice as much for quality of parts, where its built and end quality compared to say godin or hamer. Look what a standard SG has in it, and where its built and what its like when it comes out of the factory, now compare it to a Godin signature LG which is cheaper in the first place. The Godin has the more exspensive wood and pickups, its end quality is very nice compared to the SG, and the godin is made in canada and america (not sure where standard SGs are made). So how anyone can say a Gibson or fender are good value (and i know people who do) i dont understand. I still love the instruments, just overpriced by around 1.7x what they are worth, specially gibson.
In the cheaper range ibanez and cort are good value, people should really get over fender and gibson, their guitars are the biggest rip offs ever, yeh they have some good axes that are classics, and the strat, tele, SG, etc. are all worth getting, but they aren't the only brands out there, and they do charge about twice as much for quality of parts, where its built and end quality compared to say godin or hamer. Look what a standard SG has in it, and where its built and what its like when it comes out of the factory, now compare it to a Godin signature LG which is cheaper in the first place. The Godin has the more exspensive wood and pickups, its end quality is very nice compared to the SG, and the godin is made in canada and america (not sure where standard SGs are made). So how anyone can say a Gibson or fender are good value (and i know people who do) i dont understand. I still love the instruments, just overpriced by around 1.7x what they are worth, specially gibson.
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I guess its fair to say I've never liked Ibanez but I've never played a top of the line Ibanez either.
I'm a Fender kid through and through, and in high school I took alot of heat for it. Because everyone around me was a bunch of Gibson kids who got a kick out of bashing the Fender kid (sad but true). I had to stand up for the Fender many a time, not to say that I don't like Gibson because of this conflict, I don't like them cause of their feel. My archtop is a nice guitar though, but it was made in 1952, so I don't have much of a choice but to like it.
As for an underrated guitar company yea it is schecter, they make some high quality stuff for the price. I love every schecter I've played. And actually the 1st time I played some Seymour Duncans was through a Schecter years ago a guy had out in town.
So between Schecter and Seymour Duncan, I was hooked. I bought a cheap Omen 006 just to bang on because it was up for grabs, I've thought about buying a schecter (top of the line) just because they are sweet and it won't break your wallet.
So cheers to the Schecter.
I guess its fair to say I've never liked Ibanez but I've never played a top of the line Ibanez either.
I'm a Fender kid through and through, and in high school I took alot of heat for it. Because everyone around me was a bunch of Gibson kids who got a kick out of bashing the Fender kid (sad but true). I had to stand up for the Fender many a time, not to say that I don't like Gibson because of this conflict, I don't like them cause of their feel. My archtop is a nice guitar though, but it was made in 1952, so I don't have much of a choice but to like it.
As for an underrated guitar company yea it is schecter, they make some high quality stuff for the price. I love every schecter I've played. And actually the 1st time I played some Seymour Duncans was through a Schecter years ago a guy had out in town.
So between Schecter and Seymour Duncan, I was hooked. I bought a cheap Omen 006 just to bang on because it was up for grabs, I've thought about buying a schecter (top of the line) just because they are sweet and it won't break your wallet.
So cheers to the Schecter.
St_Genesius
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I don't much care for the RGs, JEMs, etc. Thin, flat necks, pointy Strat bodies and floating trems don't much interest me, but the SZ series are damn good looking and sound/play pretty well too. And the Artcore series has quite possibly got my vote for the best buck banging semi-hollow and hollow series in production today.
In short, Ibanez has become too diverse a manufacturer to dismiss because of any particular model or series.
I don't much care for the RGs, JEMs, etc. Thin, flat necks, pointy Strat bodies and floating trems don't much interest me, but the SZ series are damn good looking and sound/play pretty well too. And the Artcore series has quite possibly got my vote for the best buck banging semi-hollow and hollow series in production today.
In short, Ibanez has become too diverse a manufacturer to dismiss because of any particular model or series.
Binnerscot
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Personally, I think hamer deserves more respect than Fender and Gibson. The make some of the best instruments ever, though their best work was before Kamen bought them awhile back. The guitars that they made in the late 80s and early 90s would eat Jackson, ESP, and the rest of them alive. Their more traditional styles smoke Gibson and I would say are on par with PRS.
Personally, I think hamer deserves more respect than Fender and Gibson. The make some of the best instruments ever, though their best work was before Kamen bought them awhile back. The guitars that they made in the late 80s and early 90s would eat Jackson, ESP, and the rest of them alive. Their more traditional styles smoke Gibson and I would say are on par with PRS.
loran.montgomery
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Also, I'm a big Peavey fan. Hartley Peavey said in an interview recently that players wanted good equipment at affordable prices. He gave it to them, and now people don't believe his equipment is as good as it is because it doesn't cost enough LOL.
I bought a Godin Freeway Classic on Ebay for $340. It's absolutely amazing. It's really impressive when you compare it to the equivalent Fender American Deluxe Strat, which runs for about four times the price.Kelsey said:
Also, I'm a big Peavey fan. Hartley Peavey said in an interview recently that players wanted good equipment at affordable prices. He gave it to them, and now people don't believe his equipment is as good as it is because it doesn't cost enough LOL.
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HAMER - hands down, the best value in an American made instrument. Custom shop quality at 1/2 the price, and secondhand prices on many models are better than ANY imported stuff. Their Imports (non-Slammer) also smoke a lot of the competition.
Check 'em out.
I have owned Hamers from every era, and feel that they are at their peak with current construction (your mileage may vary). I'm still a fan of the 70s stuff, but the finest instrument I own (above my 80s PRS Custom and LPs and any of the vintage stuff I've had) is a 2005 Monaco 3.
HAMER - hands down, the best value in an American made instrument. Custom shop quality at 1/2 the price, and secondhand prices on many models are better than ANY imported stuff. Their Imports (non-Slammer) also smoke a lot of the competition.
Check 'em out.
I have owned Hamers from every era, and feel that they are at their peak with current construction (your mileage may vary). I'm still a fan of the 70s stuff, but the finest instrument I own (above my 80s PRS Custom and LPs and any of the vintage stuff I've had) is a 2005 Monaco 3.
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Jeroen
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I didn't vote, mine's not on the list. It's a French company named Lag. They build very nice guitars at an incredible value. I don't like the looks of the current series much though, but their older Morgane series models looked beautiful. Check out my profile picture, for a fine example. That's a Lag Louisiane, from the The Blues-series. Feels very similar to a Strat, but with a slightly smoother neck that's oilfinished instead of lacquered. They offered several Strat- and Tele-like models (and some pretty much in between) in that series that are just gorgeous. Mine came stock with a DiMarzio Humbucker from Hell in the neckposition, SSL1 in the middle position (not the lefthanded variation, unfortunately) and Hot Rails in the bridge. All hardware is Schaller, frets are 6105 Dunlop, tonepot is push-push and splits both humbuckers (although I have no idea why anyone would want to split a humbucker that already pretty much sounds like a singlecoil). It's just a fantastic guitar :13:
I didn't vote, mine's not on the list. It's a French company named Lag. They build very nice guitars at an incredible value. I don't like the looks of the current series much though, but their older Morgane series models looked beautiful. Check out my profile picture, for a fine example. That's a Lag Louisiane, from the The Blues-series. Feels very similar to a Strat, but with a slightly smoother neck that's oilfinished instead of lacquered. They offered several Strat- and Tele-like models (and some pretty much in between) in that series that are just gorgeous. Mine came stock with a DiMarzio Humbucker from Hell in the neckposition, SSL1 in the middle position (not the lefthanded variation, unfortunately) and Hot Rails in the bridge. All hardware is Schaller, frets are 6105 Dunlop, tonepot is push-push and splits both humbuckers (although I have no idea why anyone would want to split a humbucker that already pretty much sounds like a singlecoil). It's just a fantastic guitar :13:
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I think Framus, they are awesome but i don't see many people playing them at all its weird.
I think Framus, they are awesome but i don't see many people playing them at all its weird.
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The same could be said of the current Jackson /Charvel line..... but the guitars aren´t really comparable to each other.....
But either company is still far from underrated.... when I think underrated I think of small operations putting out a top-notch product, something along the lines of MCS, or GMW, or Sully guitars (of the 3 the only one that IMO would qualify) or similar....
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The same could be said of the current Jackson /Charvel line..... but the guitars aren´t really comparable to each other.....
But either company is still far from underrated.... when I think underrated I think of small operations putting out a top-notch product, something along the lines of MCS, or GMW, or Sully guitars (of the 3 the only one that IMO would qualify) or similar....
Destructone
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ESP guitars are very-underrated. I love them more than Jackson USA's. also, Music Man are waaaaay better than Gibsons and Jacksons considering the price! I always get attention whenever i bring my Music Man JP guitar out... ALWAYS! Even the tech in the guitar shop where i get my guitars set-up said that he has never played a better guitar! Music Man rules!
ESP guitars are very-underrated. I love them more than Jackson USA's. also, Music Man are waaaaay better than Gibsons and Jacksons considering the price! I always get attention whenever i bring my Music Man JP guitar out... ALWAYS! Even the tech in the guitar shop where i get my guitars set-up said that he has never played a better guitar! Music Man rules!
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Peavey has always flown under the radar really, the first guitar they ever built was the T-60, which is a killer sounding tank of a guitar. I have a USA HM Strat ( I pulled the Demarzio out of the bridge and put in a Custom-Custom, a HUGE upgrade...), played a '78 LP Custom for a decade as my #1 player, and the Peavey T-60 I have now is as good as any of them. Different flavors for sure, but very good guitars. Wolfgangs speak for themselves, although they are far more popular than the T-60 ever was...
Peavey has always flown under the radar really, the first guitar they ever built was the T-60, which is a killer sounding tank of a guitar. I have a USA HM Strat ( I pulled the Demarzio out of the bridge and put in a Custom-Custom, a HUGE upgrade...), played a '78 LP Custom for a decade as my #1 player, and the Peavey T-60 I have now is as good as any of them. Different flavors for sure, but very good guitars. Wolfgangs speak for themselves, although they are far more popular than the T-60 ever was...
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