Murray and Crate?

[wixomwhat]

wtf?
i found this on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38073&item=3763085904&rd=1

i though the guys from maiden always used Marshalls?

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

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Temporary insanity, I suppose.

 

[Bluesman]

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More than that. Adrian use a Les Paul right now. The Iron Maiden guys are easy to buy cause they once used Lado Guitar from Toronto because they were free.

 

[wixomwhat]

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More than that. Adrian use a Les Paul right now. The Iron Maiden guys are easy to buy cause they once used Lado Guitar from Toronto because they were free.

It would be sweet if Adrian went back to Destroyers, i dont really like lp's.

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

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Adrian used an LP for some of the guitar parts on New World, but went back to Strats on the new album.

 

[TheProphet]

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Actually you can see Adrian using LP's as far back as the Piece of Mind tour along with the Gibson SG's.

The Lado's (which are built 1/2 hour - 45 mins away from me) started being used by Adrian and Steve on the Powerslave tour. By Seventh Son Adrian was using Jackson strats and then moved to Fenders

 

[Davey]

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who can say no to a free amp.. whatever it is.. (might explain the off type of sound he had then)

adrian used the stock black beauty on wickerman. he's a converted strat guy now.. i'd pay for seeing him play his old destroyer though.

they never went for an endorsement deal though.. a signature this and that here and there, but they play everything across the board

 

[54stratlover]

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Getting endorsed doesn't mena one actually used the equipment. the company is buying the persons image to piggyback onto their product. Its all marketing sales, and income. Ads are like T.V. don't believe a thing you see. When something is really good it sells itself, and usually has limited endorsee's. Endorsing is just a funky business relationship. A way for a company to sell something, and a person to get equipment and paid for doing vortually nothing.

 

[Archer_of_Fish]

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e probalby got the endorsement and used them as warm up amps or just kept them in the studio.


I have a tour program from the Piece of Mind tour and his main amp is listed as a 50 watt Mesa Boogie combo.

 

[Davey]

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Getting endorsed doesn't mena one actually used the equipment. the company is buying the persons image to piggyback onto their product. Its all marketing sales, and income. Ads are like T.V. don't believe a thing you see. When something is really good it sells itself, and usually has limited endorsee's. Endorsing is just a funky business relationship. A way for a company to sell something, and a person to get equipment and paid for doing vortually nothing.

wrong. endorsement means you're legaly bound to the company that 'bought' your name and image so you are seen playing their guitars/amps. depending on the contract, they may give you some leeway so you are not bount only to their brand. but one or two other products.

what you are talking about is a signature line of an amp/guitar, effect etc. it's not neccessary that the person is using it exlusively, but has at least one in his arsenal.

also, endorserers dont always get free stuff. most of the time they get a percentage off a custom built guitar (unless you're one of these people: Vai, Satch, malmsteen, van halen...), endorsing also means you are seen with the stuff more than on one occasion so he'd have to use them on tour.. which i doubt he did. the companies dont give a damn if it's been used in the studio or not. they can be mentioned in the booklet, but maiden are all across the board. in the studios, they even used peavy's around the killers era

 

[JeffB]

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I noticed all the guys in Maiden are endorsing Fender right now.

I don't know about the new stuff (last album I bought was the absolutely attrocious "A Real Dead one" ), but I'm kinda dissapointed Adrian went to strats...not because the guitars are bad, but because the tones of the set necks he used to play (destroyers, gibsons, lados) contrasted nicely with the bolt on neck sounds of Dave Murray.

How I long for the Live After Death era Maiden

On a side note: I think on Guitar.com I saw a little mp3 video lesson from Adrian a couple weeks back.

EDIT: I do remember this ad though. I think he endorsed them the same kinda way Yngwie did..as a practice amp type thing.

 

[Davey]

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I noticed all the guys in Maiden are endorsing Fender right now.

they dont have an endorsement deal.. dave has a couple of Wayne rock legends in his arsenal now and adrian is still pulling a black beauty out every so often.

why does everyone think just cos they got a signature line and play one type of guitar at the moment, that they imediately have an endorsement.

IRON MAIDEN NEVER HAD AN ENDORSEMENT DEAL WHAT-SO-EVER! and i put my hand in the fire and say they never will.

except for nicko and his love of paiste cymbals... but he's a drummer

On a side note: I think on Guitar.com I saw a little mp3 video lesson from Adrian a couple weeks back.

that video is about 3 and a half years old hehe. still cool though

 

[NecroPolo]

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Yeah and Zakk Wylde's Ampegs and Malmsteen's Crates and so on so on
forth.

Isn't someone from Maiden who said that, "I've tried the rest and always returned to the best," if properly quoted...?

I assume, this little Crate is "the rest"

 

[TheProphet]

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wrong. endorsement means you're legaly bound to the company that 'bought' your name and image so you are seen playing their guitars/amps. depending on the contract, they may give you some leeway so you are not bount only to their brand. but one or two other products.

A little clarity, an endorsement contract is an agreement between an artist and a company that allows said company to use the artists image, voice etc. to promote, sell, endorse their product. You do not have to be seen playing their guitars or amps

Rarely do these contracts require that you use such products.

IRON MAIDEN NEVER HAD AN ENDORSEMENT DEAL WHAT-SO-EVER! and i put my hand in the fire and say they never will.

Once again I will have to correct you here. Both Adrian and Dave have endorsements. The add is clearly the result of an endorsement contract with Dave Murray gave Crate permission to use his image to endorse those amps. In the case of Adrian Smith, he was an endorser for Jackson guitars for 3-4 years.

Iron Maiden have also endorsed in the past the following companies

Rotosound Strings, Fender, Marshall, Kahler (funny since I've never seen them play Kahler'd guitars), Dimarzio, I believe Seymour Duncan provided them with an endorsement in the mid 80's, Gallien Krueger, Paiste etc etc

 

[Archer_of_Fish]

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A little clarity, an endorsement contract is an agreement between an artist and a company that allows said company to use the artists image, voice etc. to promote, sell, endorse their product. You do not have to be seen playing their guitars or amps

Rarely do these contracts require that you use such products.



Once again I will have to correct you here. Both Adrian and Dave have endorsements. The add is clearly the result of an endorsement contract with Dave Murray gave Crate permission to use his image to endorse those amps. In the case of Adrian Smith, he was an endorser for Jackson guitars for 3-4 years.

Iron Maiden have also endorsed in the past the following companies

Rotosound Strings, Fender, Marshall, Kahler (funny since I've never seen them play Kahler'd guitars), Dimarzio, I believe Seymour Duncan provided them with an endorsement in the mid 80's, Gallien Krueger, Paiste etc etc

there are different levels of endorsement. Not all are exclusive.

 

[TheProphet]

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True but to argue that "endorsement means you're legaly bound to the company that 'bought' your name and image so you are seen playing their guitars/amps" also falls into that same problem. I was merely trying to illustrate that not all endorsements work that way ... I guess I fell into the same trap

 

[Archer_of_Fish]

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True but to argue that "endorsement means you're legaly bound to the company that 'bought' your name and image so you are seen playing their guitars/amps" also falls into that same problem. I was merely trying to illustrate that not all endorsements work that way ... I guess I fell into the same trap

Best example I can think if is Ritchie Sambora during his Fender days. He was an endorser of Fender guitars, with a sig model.....but he often used Gibsons live.

Obviously his contract allowed him to use other guitars when he deemed that his Fender wasnt the best tool for the job.

 

[TheProphet]

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And let's not forget those Gibson's were also rumoured to have Duncans *Wooohoohoo* (Sambora being a Dimarzio endorser at the time)

 

[Davey]

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A little clarity, an endorsement contract is an agreement between an artist and a company that allows said company to use the artists image, voice etc. to promote, sell, endorse their product. You do not have to be seen playing their guitars or amps

Rarely do these contracts require that you use such products.

as far as i know it's the oposite when it comes to endorsing. the company gives the artist a deal where they get their gear for cheap, in exchange the artists are then seen with the equipment/use it. it's not just in music but in sports also. i got a couple of friends that have an endorsement with scott downhill bikes and Elan bikes/snowboarding accessories.

what you talk about is clearly a signature type of deal

Once again I will have to correct you here. Both Adrian and Dave have endorsements. The add is clearly the result of an endorsement contract with Dave Murray gave Crate permission to use his image to endorse those amps.

permission yes. but i have never seen him use one.

In the case of Adrian Smith, he was an endorser for Jackson guitars for 3-4 years.

ok, give you that one. my mistake

Iron Maiden have also endorsed in the past the following companies

Rotosound Strings, Fender, Marshall, Kahler (funny since I've never seen them play Kahler'd guitars), Dimarzio, I believe Seymour Duncan provided them with an endorsement in the mid 80's, Gallien Krueger, Paiste etc etc

from evan:
a seymour duncan endorsement deal means you exclusively used SD pickups and are not allowed to play any other pickups. or thereabouts. taken from the tony iommi thread, so that cant be true as they never used SD pups exclusivelly.. except for janick. i dont have much info about him.
they may have an artist deal, such as TO has (did it get aprooved yet man?)
same would probably fall into the dimarzio category.

i said nicko does have an endorsement deal with paiste earlier.

you really cant know for the kahlers as i doubt you'd distinguish an OFR kahler from a schaller or any of the ones they use(d).

the deal with fender was a SIGNATURE guitar also. they never played one on stage as far as i know or it'd get air time.

as for the marshalls and strings (your forgot earnie ball's).. they never strayed away from them when playing live, so thats pretty much a given

ok. i might've been wrong on my previous statement, but it pisses me off that as soon as people see a signature line it means OMFG they're endorsed by them!!!

an endorsement doesnt mean they got a signature line. and vice versa

 

[TheProphet]

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as far as i know it's the oposite when it comes to endorsing. the company gives the artist a deal where they get their gear for cheap, in exchange the artists are then seen with the equipment/use it. it's not just in music but in sports also. i got a couple of friends that have an endorsement with scott downhill bikes and Elan bikes/snowboarding accessories.

what you talk about is clearly a signature type of deal ok. i might've been wrong on my previous statement, but it pisses me off that as soon as people see a signature line it means OMFG they're endorsed by them!!!

an endorsement doesnt mean they got a signature line. and vice versa

*Sigh* What I was referring to is NOT a signature deal (which in itself is an endorsement of sorts) which is an endorsement to sell the artists image, not for the artist to promote the companies product.

an endorsement contract is an agreement between an artist and a company that allows said company to use the artists image, voice etc. to promote, sell, endorse their product

Nothing there mentions getting a special instrument with your name on it (signature deal). It has to deal with the promotion of the product ... nothing here has to do with signitures so I don't know where you're coming from that aspect