My blind hate of strats
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JustAskinologist
Re: My blind hate of strats
good tone...His sunglasses are probably the best part though. :laugh2:
I think a a 340 with p90s would still get a better tone...
good tone...His sunglasses are probably the best part though. :laugh2:
I think a a 340 with p90s would still get a better tone...
cream123
JustAskinologist
Re: My blind hate of strats
too bad I'll never have a chance to touch any of those things...
too bad I'll never have a chance to touch any of those things...
KeeperOS
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Re: My blind hate of strats
Erm, when I said it I didn't actually meant play EVERY variant. It was just a figure of speech... If you have only played a few Squiers and Fender MIMs then you haven't played enough. If however you have played (in no specific order) MIAs, MIJs, Ibanezs, ESPs/LTDs, Charvels, Jacksons, Kramers, Schecters, Carvins, Washburns Strat/SuperStrat variants (or most of these, I for instance have never even touched a MIJ or an ESP/LTD ever) and still couldn't find at least one that worked for you enough to have to have it then yes, you have tried enough and yes, you are one of those few that Strats are not for them...
Hmm, that's a tough one since by definition this isn't supposed to be a SuperStrat but rather a LP/Strat hybrid.
A Mahogany SuperStrat is for sure a SuperStrat (I am about to buy one and I consider it as such), even a short-scale, Pau Ferro necked Strat (my choice of a Custom Strat would have Pau Ferro for a fretboard although still 25.5 Maple neck...) while humbuckers don't even begin to make a difference. (the Vigier Indus had two PAFish humbuckers and did the LP thing like its' second nature and I would still call it a Strat)...
However, put all these things together and you have stepped so much into LP territory that we can no longer talk about a single design guitar but rather a middle of the road hybrid (dunno how it'd SOUND though...)
In short, what I meant was that any alteration to the classic LP recipe you make is a step further away from an LP while, unless you specifically try to make a hybrid out of a Strat, there are a LOT of things you can do differently from the original design and still be a Strat.
Erm, when I said it I didn't actually meant play EVERY variant. It was just a figure of speech... If you have only played a few Squiers and Fender MIMs then you haven't played enough. If however you have played (in no specific order) MIAs, MIJs, Ibanezs, ESPs/LTDs, Charvels, Jacksons, Kramers, Schecters, Carvins, Washburns Strat/SuperStrat variants (or most of these, I for instance have never even touched a MIJ or an ESP/LTD ever) and still couldn't find at least one that worked for you enough to have to have it then yes, you have tried enough and yes, you are one of those few that Strats are not for them...
Hmm, that's a tough one since by definition this isn't supposed to be a SuperStrat but rather a LP/Strat hybrid.
A Mahogany SuperStrat is for sure a SuperStrat (I am about to buy one and I consider it as such), even a short-scale, Pau Ferro necked Strat (my choice of a Custom Strat would have Pau Ferro for a fretboard although still 25.5 Maple neck...) while humbuckers don't even begin to make a difference. (the Vigier Indus had two PAFish humbuckers and did the LP thing like its' second nature and I would still call it a Strat)...
However, put all these things together and you have stepped so much into LP territory that we can no longer talk about a single design guitar but rather a middle of the road hybrid (dunno how it'd SOUND though...)
In short, what I meant was that any alteration to the classic LP recipe you make is a step further away from an LP while, unless you specifically try to make a hybrid out of a Strat, there are a LOT of things you can do differently from the original design and still be a Strat.
Jocelyn
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Re: My blind hate of strats
Well Ritchie did use an ES355 on the first 2-3 Deep Purple albums. It was only from Mahine heads onwards he used a strat.. some tracks in Machine heads were alos done with a 355.. and during the Machine heads tour he used both.
Well Ritchie did use an ES355 on the first 2-3 Deep Purple albums. It was only from Mahine heads onwards he used a strat.. some tracks in Machine heads were alos done with a 355.. and during the Machine heads tour he used both.
Jocelyn
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Re: My blind hate of strats
I like my strat. I like the clarity I get from it in all postions. I like to HEAR what I play. Maybe thats why I like brighter humbuckers too. Though I dont find the JB bright,but a bit chimy ( thats the word I can get ).
Besides tone I like the way a Strat feels in my arms and hands just right. I realy like to hear what I play and not mud. some years back I just wanted humbuckers, not any more. I now like single coils too.
But I dont know if I would totaly agree too as you progres you will want to move from Humbuckers to singlecoils. Each have their own chracteristics.. and tone of thier own. I know I love the SWEET WARM TONE of a humbucker a lot too, infact I like humbuckers more than single coils. But that is because of thesweet warmth I get..
I like my strat. I like the clarity I get from it in all postions. I like to HEAR what I play. Maybe thats why I like brighter humbuckers too. Though I dont find the JB bright,but a bit chimy ( thats the word I can get ).
Besides tone I like the way a Strat feels in my arms and hands just right. I realy like to hear what I play and not mud. some years back I just wanted humbuckers, not any more. I now like single coils too.
But I dont know if I would totaly agree too as you progres you will want to move from Humbuckers to singlecoils. Each have their own chracteristics.. and tone of thier own. I know I love the SWEET WARM TONE of a humbucker a lot too, infact I like humbuckers more than single coils. But that is because of thesweet warmth I get..
BigAlTheBird
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Re: My blind hate of strats
Why do you say this? They're not that rare! And you're 15, not 75.
Why do you say this? They're not that rare! And you're 15, not 75.
Empty Pockets
BadHairDayologist
Re: My blind hate of strats
An all-mahagoney set-neck Strat with humbuckers and TOM would still be a Strat in my opinion...just like a bolt-on SG made of alder and maple would still be an SG. It's the name of the shape, not the sum of the parts.
Picture a guitar with a Strat headstock, three Strat single coils, a Strat tremelo, and a V-shaped body. Would you call it a Strat?
Anyway, we should all be playing our guitars now
An all-mahagoney set-neck Strat with humbuckers and TOM would still be a Strat in my opinion...just like a bolt-on SG made of alder and maple would still be an SG. It's the name of the shape, not the sum of the parts.
Picture a guitar with a Strat headstock, three Strat single coils, a Strat tremelo, and a V-shaped body. Would you call it a Strat?
Anyway, we should all be playing our guitars now
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: My blind hate of strats
Well, I've owned a Jackson Dinky, an ESP Horizon, an '80s MIJ Fender, an Ibanez RG, an Ibanez S series, a Washburn 7-string, built two different Warmoths, and my first guitar ever was a MIJ Squier.
Couldn't get along with any of them. I think I qualify.
It would probably sound like an Anderson Cobra S, but that's speculation.
The problem here isn't with the flexibility of design, but with people having too narrow a scope of the kinds of guitars out there. It's not a big deal and I know I'm nitpicking, but nitpicking is what I do.
This reminds me of those logic/conditional word problems that try to make you construct venn diagrams in your head. "All bleeps are bloops. If some bloops are zoops and all zoops are blinks, then..."
By what criteria do you define a guitar as a Strat?
Well, I've owned a Jackson Dinky, an ESP Horizon, an '80s MIJ Fender, an Ibanez RG, an Ibanez S series, a Washburn 7-string, built two different Warmoths, and my first guitar ever was a MIJ Squier.
Couldn't get along with any of them. I think I qualify.
It would probably sound like an Anderson Cobra S, but that's speculation.
The problem here isn't with the flexibility of design, but with people having too narrow a scope of the kinds of guitars out there. It's not a big deal and I know I'm nitpicking, but nitpicking is what I do.
This reminds me of those logic/conditional word problems that try to make you construct venn diagrams in your head. "All bleeps are bloops. If some bloops are zoops and all zoops are blinks, then..."
By what criteria do you define a guitar as a Strat?
ginormous
Understatmentologist
Re: My blind hate of strats
I own and play both Fender and Gibson-influenced designs, because I require a variety of tones from time to time (sometimes, on the same song). Some days, I'll need a razorblade; others, a thick meatiness.
I mean some of the greats have owned both (Jimi, for ex.), and done well no matter what they played. Whatever floats your boat...
For me, it's a simple definition: the class of electric guitars with modular construction, 6-on-a-side tuners, and strong, lightweight, contoured body.sosomething said:
I own and play both Fender and Gibson-influenced designs, because I require a variety of tones from time to time (sometimes, on the same song). Some days, I'll need a razorblade; others, a thick meatiness.
I mean some of the greats have owned both (Jimi, for ex.), and done well no matter what they played. Whatever floats your boat...
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: My blind hate of strats
So.........if you put contours on a Tele, it becomes a strat?
What about a bolt-on Firebird? That would make it modular. Is it now a strat?
So.........if you put contours on a Tele, it becomes a strat?
What about a bolt-on Firebird? That would make it modular. Is it now a strat?
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: My blind hate of strats
Is this a Strat?:
Is this a Strat?:
BigAlTheBird
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Re: My blind hate of strats
lol I was thinking the exact same thing. I get the gist of his post, but it's a little off.
Is this a Strat?:
lol I was thinking the exact same thing. I get the gist of his post, but it's a little off.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: My blind hate of strats
Exactly. Everyone has a different perspective; we Gibson fans may be outnumbered, but we have some valid points. Every guitar has its good & weak characteristics. Strats are so high-profile they seem to bring out passions in people, good and bad. Personally, I don't like a body, neck, & headstock to be on the same plane. I think big pickguards that cover half the body are tacky. I don't think that a piece of plastic makes a good soundboard; I want them mounted to the body. I need a 24 3/4" scale, 3x3 tuners, and WILL NOT play a bolt-on neck, nor do I feel the need to mix-and-match necks.
For the record, you can do all kinds of things with LP's, SG's, & 335's: countless humbuckers and P-90's to choose from, series-parallel-phase-coil cut, & a volume & tone for each pickup! No end to the tonal variations. Thank God for Gibson. I'd be pretty boring if everyone had the same tastes and had to own the same kind of guitar.
Exactly. Everyone has a different perspective; we Gibson fans may be outnumbered, but we have some valid points. Every guitar has its good & weak characteristics. Strats are so high-profile they seem to bring out passions in people, good and bad. Personally, I don't like a body, neck, & headstock to be on the same plane. I think big pickguards that cover half the body are tacky. I don't think that a piece of plastic makes a good soundboard; I want them mounted to the body. I need a 24 3/4" scale, 3x3 tuners, and WILL NOT play a bolt-on neck, nor do I feel the need to mix-and-match necks.
For the record, you can do all kinds of things with LP's, SG's, & 335's: countless humbuckers and P-90's to choose from, series-parallel-phase-coil cut, & a volume & tone for each pickup! No end to the tonal variations. Thank God for Gibson. I'd be pretty boring if everyone had the same tastes and had to own the same kind of guitar.
BigAlTheBird
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Re: My blind hate of strats
*Darn* straight thank God for Gibson!
*Darn* straight thank God for Gibson!
Bludave
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Empty Pockets
BadHairDayologist
Re: My blind hate of strats
hahaha
God made Gibsons...then Satan plugged one into a Marshall and ROCK WAS BORN!
hahaha
God made Gibsons...then Satan plugged one into a Marshall and ROCK WAS BORN!
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