Nazgûl in a Jackson JS32-7?
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Tried it in an Ibanez gio 7, which is basswood/maple/rosewood, and the nazgul had thick mids with very,very present treble.
Lots of cut, grind, bass perfectly controlled and tight, some kind of mid range spike which makes it sound djent-y / modern.
Hope that helps a bit.
Re: Nazgûl in a Jackson JS32-7?
Tried it in an Ibanez gio 7, which is basswood/maple/rosewood, and the nazgul had thick mids with very,very present treble.
Lots of cut, grind, bass perfectly controlled and tight, some kind of mid range spike which makes it sound djent-y / modern.
Hope that helps a bit.
Iron1
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That does. I play mainly old school doom/death/thrash stuff, not djent, but like the tightness of modern metal. Think it'll work for that?
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That does. I play mainly old school doom/death/thrash stuff, not djent, but like the tightness of modern metal. Think it'll work for that?
Gtrjunior
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I have it in an Iron Label 7. Tbh, I’m it sure how I feel about it.
First, I seldom play that guitar so my memory of it might be off.
Secondly, I had Pegasus in it before the Nazgul and both of these pickups have a sort of grainy quality that I don’t like.
I don’t think it’s the pickups though, probably the guitar itself.
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I have it in an Iron Label 7. Tbh, I’m it sure how I feel about it.
First, I seldom play that guitar so my memory of it might be off.
Secondly, I had Pegasus in it before the Nazgul and both of these pickups have a sort of grainy quality that I don’t like.
I don’t think it’s the pickups though, probably the guitar itself.
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Oh yes it'll work for that, no problem. You may need to adjust your eq a bit but it works. And as gtrjunior said, it does have a grainy quality, perfect for death & thrash imho.
In fact it really reminds me of a mix between a distortion (thickness, thump, grind) and the JB (mids, good for lead work ), just on steroids. If you know those pickups , you can imagine the results.
Re: Nazgûl in a Jackson JS32-7?
Oh yes it'll work for that, no problem. You may need to adjust your eq a bit but it works. And as gtrjunior said, it does have a grainy quality, perfect for death & thrash imho.
In fact it really reminds me of a mix between a distortion (thickness, thump, grind) and the JB (mids, good for lead work ), just on steroids. If you know those pickups , you can imagine the results.
weepingminotaur
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I don't have 7-string experience, but I have the Nazgul in a 6-string Schecter Omen Extreme (mahogany body, maple neck, rosewood fingerboard, bolt-on) and it is fantastic. The DCR is only 13.3 but you get this huge grind on the bottom string that makes it seem like the pickup is hotter than it is. Very thick mids (what I prefer), controllable bass, great for tremolo picking and slow doomy riffs too. And you only need a bit of distortion for it to sound crushing. Lead-wise, it's good when distorted, and competent when clean (I prefer to use the Sentient neck for cleans and leads). Would totally recommend, though I know the Nazgul is a polarizing pickup -- people tend to either love it or hate it.
Re: Nazgûl in a Jackson JS32-7?
I don't have 7-string experience, but I have the Nazgul in a 6-string Schecter Omen Extreme (mahogany body, maple neck, rosewood fingerboard, bolt-on) and it is fantastic. The DCR is only 13.3 but you get this huge grind on the bottom string that makes it seem like the pickup is hotter than it is. Very thick mids (what I prefer), controllable bass, great for tremolo picking and slow doomy riffs too. And you only need a bit of distortion for it to sound crushing. Lead-wise, it's good when distorted, and competent when clean (I prefer to use the Sentient neck for cleans and leads). Would totally recommend, though I know the Nazgul is a polarizing pickup -- people tend to either love it or hate it.
Iron1
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Don't know why, as I love Ibanez, but I've never played an Iron Label that I like... do think grainy might be up my alley, though. Thx.
I had a distortion in an LTD when I first signed up here and loved the bottom end it had. Haven't played through a JB before but always hear good things about 'em.
That's a great description right there. Now I'm excited to get it installed. Thx!
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Don't know why, as I love Ibanez, but I've never played an Iron Label that I like... do think grainy might be up my alley, though. Thx.
I had a distortion in an LTD when I first signed up here and loved the bottom end it had. Haven't played through a JB before but always hear good things about 'em.
That's a great description right there. Now I'm excited to get it installed. Thx!
weepingminotaur
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No problem, happy to help. Let us know how it goes!
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No problem, happy to help. Let us know how it goes!
Iron1
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Thanks. I actually bought it off a friend who replaced it with a Pegasus because he's branching into lots of chord variations and wanted more articulation. I think if the Naz doesn't work for me, my next one will be either a Black Winter or an Elysian Hellfire.
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Thanks. I actually bought it off a friend who replaced it with a Pegasus because he's branching into lots of chord variations and wanted more articulation. I think if the Naz doesn't work for me, my next one will be either a Black Winter or an Elysian Hellfire.
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Between Nazgul and Pegasus, the first one is definitely more articulate and has nice 'snap' when playing single note lines. Pegasus can be a bit mushy when playing with good amount of distortion and it has a lot of low mids compared to Nazgul, which has more prominent high mids. I don't have experience with Black Winters but have heard good things about them. They're on my test list for sure.
Re: Nazgûl in a Jackson JS32-7?
Between Nazgul and Pegasus, the first one is definitely more articulate and has nice 'snap' when playing single note lines. Pegasus can be a bit mushy when playing with good amount of distortion and it has a lot of low mids compared to Nazgul, which has more prominent high mids. I don't have experience with Black Winters but have heard good things about them. They're on my test list for sure.
Iron1
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Put the Nazgul in yesterday and while I've only had about 15 minutes to play since the install, I love it so far. Very articulate mids and a nice crunchy edge to the lows. Overall, it's just MORE of what I was already getting with added definition, like taking a guitar in High Definition and advancing it to 4K. Thanks for the advice!
Re: Nazgûl in a Jackson JS32-7?
Put the Nazgul in yesterday and while I've only had about 15 minutes to play since the install, I love it so far. Very articulate mids and a nice crunchy edge to the lows. Overall, it's just MORE of what I was already getting with added definition, like taking a guitar in High Definition and advancing it to 4K. Thanks for the advice!
Iron1
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Five months later I'm still loving the Nazgul and now looking for a complimentary pickup to put into my JS22-7 Franken-project. I'm thinking the Black Winter or an Elysian Trident II (per Adam's suggestion) would compliment the Nazgul really well in a mix. The Jackson HO hum bucker in the JS22-7 does well to fill out the space while the Naz cuts through it, but it's a little muddy and brings a less defined, unwanted higher lo-end I don't really dig.
Suggestions?
Re: Nazgûl in a Jackson JS32-7?
Five months later I'm still loving the Nazgul and now looking for a complimentary pickup to put into my JS22-7 Franken-project. I'm thinking the Black Winter or an Elysian Trident II (per Adam's suggestion) would compliment the Nazgul really well in a mix. The Jackson HO hum bucker in the JS22-7 does well to fill out the space while the Naz cuts through it, but it's a little muddy and brings a less defined, unwanted higher lo-end I don't really dig.
Suggestions?
weepingminotaur
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Can't speak to the Trident (never tried it), but I think the Black Winter bridge in a JS22 would be a great complement to your existing axe. It's got tight bass, holds up well under high gain, and has plenty of mids to let you cut through the mix. Compared to the Naz, it has less of a chug on the low strings (even though it's higher output), but it's crisper, and more versatile, too -- it splits very well and cleans up better than you'd expect for such a hot pickup.
Re: Nazgûl in a Jackson JS32-7?
Can't speak to the Trident (never tried it), but I think the Black Winter bridge in a JS22 would be a great complement to your existing axe. It's got tight bass, holds up well under high gain, and has plenty of mids to let you cut through the mix. Compared to the Naz, it has less of a chug on the low strings (even though it's higher output), but it's crisper, and more versatile, too -- it splits very well and cleans up better than you'd expect for such a hot pickup.
Iron1
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Thanks, that's good info. So, you think mixing the two (Naz & BW) would provide a solid, thick, crips tone overall in a mix?
I considered that, and had an Invader I messed with (adjusting pup height, volume, etc.) but never got it to play well with the Naz... so I sold it to fund this next purchase.
Re: Nazgûl in a Jackson JS32-7?
Thanks, that's good info. So, you think mixing the two (Naz & BW) would provide a solid, thick, crips tone overall in a mix?
I considered that, and had an Invader I messed with (adjusting pup height, volume, etc.) but never got it to play well with the Naz... so I sold it to fund this next purchase.
weepingminotaur
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Just want to make sure I understand correctly. Are you saying you want to put both pickups in the same guitar? Or in different guitars? If you want both in the same guitar, I'd say put the Black Winter neck in to pair with the Naz. The BW neck is all kinds of amazing and can keep up with the fiercest bridge pup.
If you're looking for a complementary pickup to throw in a different guitar from the one that has the Nazgul in it, yeah, I'd say go Black Winter bridge. It will have zero trouble cutting through the mix but won't sound the same as the Nazgul.
Re: Nazgûl in a Jackson JS32-7?
Just want to make sure I understand correctly. Are you saying you want to put both pickups in the same guitar? Or in different guitars? If you want both in the same guitar, I'd say put the Black Winter neck in to pair with the Naz. The BW neck is all kinds of amazing and can keep up with the fiercest bridge pup.
If you're looking for a complementary pickup to throw in a different guitar from the one that has the Nazgul in it, yeah, I'd say go Black Winter bridge. It will have zero trouble cutting through the mix but won't sound the same as the Nazgul.
Iron1
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Yes, sorry, should have been more clear. My JS32-7 has the Nazgul in it and it's my main 7 string. I'm modding out a JS22-7 that will get the new pickup. I want them to compliment each other in the mix.
Here's an example of one of my tunes to give you an idea of what I'm going for:
https://soundcloud.com/iron1/dual-mind-4-0-3
Re: Nazgûl in a Jackson JS32-7?
Yes, sorry, should have been more clear. My JS32-7 has the Nazgul in it and it's my main 7 string. I'm modding out a JS22-7 that will get the new pickup. I want them to compliment each other in the mix.
Here's an example of one of my tunes to give you an idea of what I'm going for:
https://soundcloud.com/iron1/dual-mind-4-0-3
