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The clips sounded really good. It's probably just me, but I generally don't like the metal demos for most amps, this one included. (Or at least the official Mesa one I just listened to) I know it's appealing to a younger demographic (yeah I'm old) of metal players. But the riffage and really tight, dry sounding metal tone is just not my thing.
 
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I have to agree here. I love heavy music but the tones I heard were mostly really fry and stiff and, to my ears, didn't sound that rich either. However, I'm thinking that it 's definitely the way it's dialed. I heard tons of really similar tones from rectos and yet I really love the way my rectoverb sounds so I'm really thinking I'd love this one too, especially given how versatile it appears... Plus the first two channels sounded amazing too so...
 
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Yeah they do suck at metal demos. Hard to tell how it sounds when they don't let anything ring out. "math-jenters" lol
They also should have included a segment going on and off a grid-slammer,,,,,,or even just with an active-loaded guitar.
Seems like they were just really trying to highlight the dryness/stiffness of the attack.
 
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They didn't have any rhythm tones with the tight switch out on channel 3, I bet that makes a huge difference.
 
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It did strike me as odd that the amp with the "most gain ever" for Mesa had such uninspiring metal demos, and none which really showed me how much more gain there is than other Mesa amps to date.


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The clips sounded really good. It's probably just me, but I generally don't like the metal demos for most amps, this one included. (Or at least the official Mesa one I just listened to) I know it's appealing to a younger demographic (yeah I'm old) of metal players. But the riffage and really tight, dry sounding metal tone is just not my thing.
LOL I was thinking the same thing.
They should have brought John Petrucci in to ring out some badass chords to really hear what that amp can do on channel 2 and 3. John loves to show off the chugging abilities of Mesa amps and I think with him doing so , we all could hear what that amp sounds like before any of us can go plug into one.

I watched that video many times and used my main theater rig and Head phones to really try to hear what this amp sounds like. I heard what I wanted but also heard in those tones many more possibilities with this head.
My concern will be the right cab to get with it. I'm wondering if the Vertical 2 x 12 will sound as good as the Horizontal 2 x 12. Not to mention if the head is to wide or will fit properly on top of a vertical 2 x 12 Mesa Cab Recto.

Every single feature and ability screams my new amp. It's exactly everything I have been looking for for years now. I thought the EVH 5150 III 50 watt head was going to be the one or the 2 x 12 combo they offer but they didn't work out for me after ownership of only a week.
Blackstar Series 1 stuff I've been all around tried out and dug into and just couldn't get the tones I was after one of them.
The Mesa Mark V is incredible , I love everything about it except the fact NO MIDI. I would require a Amp Gizmo to control it and thats just another expense I'd prefer not to have to do. I'd rather put that money into something else then having to have yet another 3rd party piece just to switch amp channels.
If the Mark V had Midi , I would already own one. That is one hell of an amp and I actually like it better, much better then the JP-2C. I was actually Disappointed in the JP-2C as I felt it sounded a bit muffled compared to the more open sounding Mark V.
This TC-50 seems to fit the Mark V bill even losing the EQ I could care less. I don't need a EQ built in to dial in what I want. I was able to dial the Mark V without the EQ section and get incredible tones out of it. The TC-50 without yet plugging in seems to be right up that alley and maybe possibly better for me at least.
I'm gonna call my Local Mesa Dealer ( Russo's in Trenton NJ) and learn when they are getting in one of these incredible awesome heads. They have all the Recto Cab's there and a few Charvel guitars so I don't even have to bring one of mine. If they have one there now, I'm already on my way. I gotta plug into this thing as for me honestly this head is a dream come true.
I have spec'd out a dream amp in my mind and this amp just nails it. I hope my expectations don't explode on me as I have had my hopes up a few times with trying to get a new amp only to walk away completely disappointed in the fact every amp I have thought would be the one is always missing something I want. I'm not settling this time around on an amp that is almost what I want. I want what I want and if I plug into the TC-50 and it sounds as I think it's going to sound then it's mine and I finally found home.
 
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Head is 22 3/4" wide and the vertical 212 is 23 5/8",,,,,,,so yeah. The feet are set a bit wider than on rectos though.
 
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Head is 22 3/4" wide and the vertical 212 is 23 5/8",,,,,,,so yeah. The feet are set a bit wider than on rectos though.
I was looking at that myself, If I get one of these heads, I'm strongly considering the vertical 2 x 12.

Anyone got an opinion on Vertical vs Horizontal 2 x 12 Mesa Cab's?
 
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I'd much rather take a slanted vertical to a gig than a horizontal, unless I had a stand to angle the horizontal toward my head.
 
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My only gripe with the vertical 212 is that it's not really much easier to haul than a traditional mesa412(75 vs 99LBS, 2" height and 6" width differences).

Also,,,, used mesa412 is much easier to find and the price will be close to the same, although the traditional-size is less abundant than the full recto-os.
 
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Very, very nice! People all over have realized by this point that you don't need anywhere NEAR 100 tube watts!

It's crushingly loud!! I almost never run my Marks on full power.

Regarding the new "super, ultra, mega" gain channel, I don't see any need for more than their previous models have been doing since the '80s, but to each his own. A Lead Drive setting of 4 to at most 5 and a little master volume is flat-out nuclear with HBs on my Mark III!
 
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Very, very nice! People all over have realized by this point that you don't need anywhere NEAR 100 tube watts!

It's crushingly loud!! I almost never run my Marks on full power.

Regarding the new "super, ultra, mega" gain channel, I don't see any need for more than their previous models have been doing since the '80s, but to each his own. A Lead Drive setting of 4 to at most 5 and a little master volume is flat-out nuclear with HBs on my Mark III!
I'm an old school guy who grew up on 100+ watt amps. Never in history did I ever run out of power. Never in history did I ever push any of my amps to their max.
Owning something less then 100 watts always made me nervous just thinking about it. I recently picked up a EVH 50 watt Head and it had more then enough power to do anything I could ever want and had plenty of room to spare.
I can see if your playing in arena size venues and even then , you probably don't need a 100 watt head.
As far as cab's go, I have always found a 2 x 12 to work for anything I ever needed it to do. I went combos after owning a Marshall JCM800 and Marshall 4 x 12 cab x 2. The Only thing the 2 4 x 12 cab's where good for was impressive looks and a wall of unbelievable sound. But It's a complete waste if you ask me today. I don't need that behind me or anywhere.
I completely resisted the 50 watt and under amps. I do however resist the 1x12 combo's and 1x12 cab's as I don't like how the ones I've Tried out sounded. I don't like any of the Mesa 1x12 combo amps at all. I think they fall very far from when you use the same amp and a 2 x 12 cab either vertical or Horizontal. Which leads me to the vertical 2 x 12 cab which I'm totally digging. I gotta do a side by side comparison to the Horizontal 2 x 12 to see which one sounds better. I've played through both but not side by side and they both sound great.
Whats really funny is I love the Mark V 35 watt head. I think that head is a masterpiece except NO MIDI. Thats my ONLY issue with it. I actually like it more then the JP-2C which I thought was nice but had this kinda blanket over it kinda sound compared using the same exact cabinet. The mark V 35 watt head sounds so much better to me. I thought the clean and gain channel all sounded clearer to me. I would have thought the JP-2C was gonna be a step up in all things tone but I was wrong after playing them both.

I can't wait to plug into this TC-50. IF it sounds as good as the Mark V, it's coming home with me.
 
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That sounds like an incredible amp! More than I'm willing to spend at this point on an amp BUT I would love to get one eventually. I really like that you have 3 options for power tubes. Good on ya Mesa!
 
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The sweetwater demo is amazing and really sold me on it. Not much time spend on each channel but it really hit the sweetspot (for me) with each.

 
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Is the gain going to be more Dual -Recto Spongy , or MkIV Tight..I am guessing it's slanted towards the MK's, unless it's a compromise of the two types or something. I don't usually see Mesa stacks, so I think that 50 watts would be fine trough one 4x12, except for with the clean you might want more dynamic headroom?
I don't care about midi, and ideally I woulds still want both a dual recto AND a MK, but hey, i can't those and I cannot afford this either, and these won't be coming up on the used market anytime soon.
 
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and these won't be coming up on the used market anytime soon.

Sooner than you think maybe. I thought the same about the multi-watts back in late 2010,,,,,, and then by early 2012 they were showing up often for as low as $1200 on CL and GC-used.
 
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This thread on TGP is quite long but towards the end (around page 27 or 28...before that it really isn't worth reading unless you really have time to waste) a couple of guys have tried it and gave their opinions/impressions and answered a few questions. Might be worth a read.
 
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