New Satriani Pickup...the "Satchur8"!

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I omitted it intentionally. I don't believe it to be powerful/full enough, but that's me.

Of course the Jazz gets paired with the JB (I prefer the 59N, but whatever) and the HFH has been paired with high output pickups as well, so Satchur8/PAF Joe is definitely viable.
 
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If I had to compare it to other pickups I've played from memory, I'd say the Satchur8 is sort of like a Crunch Lab/Drop Sonic hybrid or maybe a brighter Alternative 8. In some ways, it also reminds me of the JB with a standard Ceramic in place of the stock A5 magnet (aka: the Dokkenbucker) or the very similar Duncan Designed HB103 model...more mids, more output, stiffer and tighter than a standard JB.

I just fell in love with the D Sonic the other night and was about to pull the trigger on a special order in a different color, but after deciding to pair it with a PAF Joe I ended up ordering the Satchur8 on a whim instead. Then I stumbled upon your review and it sounds like I may have inadvertently been on exactly the right track!

Assuming you’ve spent any more time with it since last December, would you say your Crunch Lab/Drop Sonic hybrid comparison still holds up?

Thanks!
 
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Does the Illuminator have good high mids? And is the Satchur8 mids more balanced like the EVO 2?

I just bought an Illuminator to swap in for comparison, but haven't done it yet.

The Satchur8 is very EVO 2-like in feel and the mids have a similar push. I prefer the Satchur8, though. The highs have a little more air/shimmer about them and I feel it's a little more expressive than the Evo 2. Still pretty darn hot and not as versatile as other winds when played really soft, but for any sort of gain, delay, finger-tapping or harmonics, it's a beast! A really great rock/metal/progressive pickup. I'm contemplating splitting it to see what other tones I can pull out of it.

The Satchur8 is sort of like Satriani, Vai and Petrucci in one pickup!


I just fell in love with the D Sonic the other night and was about to pull the trigger on a special order in a different color, but after deciding to pair it with a PAF Joe I ended up ordering the Satchur8 on a whim instead. Then I stumbled upon your review and it sounds like I may have inadvertently been on exactly the right track!

Assuming you’ve spent any more time with it since last December, would you say your Crunch Lab/Drop Sonic hybrid comparison still holds up?

Thanks!

Yes, I still feel like the Satchur8 fits somewhere between those 2. The Drop Sonic is tight and somewhat bright, really clear, and the Crunch Lab is fairly chunky, but really articulate. Both are pretty high output. The Satchur8 shares some elements of both. In fact, I'd LOVE to see Petrucci give the pickup a spin just to see what it sounds like in HIS hands!

The one thing I haven't done is test the Satchur8 in tunings below D standard (aka: "one step down"). However, even in D, it holds up really well in the clarity department and feels nice and tight. I like it!
 
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The one thing I haven't done is test the Satchur8 in tunings below D standard (aka: "one step down"). However, even in D, it holds up really well in the clarity department and feels nice and tight. I like it!

Thanks for the input. I’ll be tuning my Charvel to drop C so I guess I’ll find out!
 
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Yes, I still feel like the Satchur8 fits somewhere between those 2. The Drop Sonic is tight and somewhat bright, really clear, and the Crunch Lab is fairly chunky, but really articulate. Both are pretty high output. The Satchur8 shares some elements of both.

I’d like to pick your brain one more time about the Satchur8 (haven’t been able to place my order yet).

Palm muting is a fairly important part of my (limited) repertoire. Would you say the Satchur8 is capable of a nice, tight palm mute when digging in?

Thanks!
 
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Whats the bass like? I loved the first evo, but the 2 sounded weird in the bass.
 
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The bass is tight for sure. Palm mutes are fairly crisp and the general tracking/feel is very "ceramic"-like, as some would put it.

I'm not sure what you didn't like about the Evo 2's bottom end, Gplayerzzz, but the Satchur8 feels quite Evo-esque on the bass side of things to me. Can you elaborate on what "sounded weird" about the Evo 2 to you?
 
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noisy humbucker, The bass is tight for sure. Palm mutes are fairly crisp and the general tracking/feel is very "ceramic"-like, as some would put it.

I'm not sure what you didn't like about the Evo 2's bottom end, Gplayerzzz, but the Satchur8 feels quite Evo-esque on the bass side of things to me. Can you elaborate on what "sounded weird" about the Evo 2 to you?
It seemed like the first one had a smoother crunch to it in the bottom, but the 2 had a more thump sound. Maybe it had more low mids or something. Or i'm use to more highs then lows in a pup. I used the first EVO and a Duncan distortion for years. I'm use to all the treble and high mids I guess.
 
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Gplayerzzz - the Satchur8 has a pretty stiff and snappy bottom end. It's hard to say for sure without playing both Evo's back-to-back with the Satchur8, but, from memory, I'm definitely reminded a lot of the Evo 2's low end response, so if that's not your thing, this pickup may not be to your liking.

Final thoughts: The Satchur8 yields a surprising amount of expressiveness for such a high output design and its lively harmonic character is definitely worthy of the "Satriani" heritage. The bottom end is nice and tight and there are a LOT of very crisp sounding mids on tap, which give way to an interesting chime up top as the highs thin out ever so slightly on the unwound strings. I think the Satchur8 is a great pickup for players who desire tight and punchy rhythms that cut through, but still want to be able to pull off a really expressive solo without changing pickups or amp settings. I think the best way to describe this pickup's character is sort of a DiMarzio FRED meets the DiMarzio Evolution. There's nothing in the Duncan line that it reminds me of at all.

If I had to cite a weakness, it would be that the Satchur8 is still a bit over-the-top in the output department. DiMarzio is doing something really cool with this pickup, which strays a bit from their typical offerings, but a little softer response would go a long way. I love the punchiness, harmonics, articulation and immediacy it delivers, but, even with the volume rolled down, it's a hard pickup to get softer notes out of, which does limit its versatility a bit, at least for the mix of styles I like to play.

As a result, tonight I pulled the Satchur8 and put in the Illuminator...

Upon initial impression, with only a few minutes to play, the Illuminator is a little warmer in its voicing and slightly better behaved in the response department. It's still very high output, but more controllable. The bottom end is a little looser than the Satchur8's and the mid-mids aren't nearly as pushed, but notes on the unwound strings, especially at the higher frets, ring out with added fullness, which benefits this particular guitar. However, the Illuminator does seem to lack a bit of attitude and midrange cut, being a bit smoother overall. I'm actually looking forward to playing it back-to-back with my Axis, as the few minutes I spent with the Illuminator reminded me of the Axis bridge in some ways. Don't read into that too much, though. I'll update after I've had a little more time with the Illuminator.
 
Re: New Satriani Pickup...the "Satchur8"!

Would this pickup be good for 80s hair metal or thrash?

Yes. The Satchur8 is more "Super D" or "Distortion" than "JB", though, if that makes any sense (when referring to '80s hair metal tones). It has more low and mid-mids emphasis than upper mids, even though it's voiced fairly bright overall. I think it handles fast playing and high gain like a champ! Power chords sound ballsy and clear, definitely a more "in your face" sound than Satriani's previous pickups.
 
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Yes. The Satchur8 is more "Super D" or "Distortion" than "JB", though, if that makes any sense (when referring to '80s hair metal tones). It has more low and mid-mids emphasis than upper mids, even though it's voiced fairly bright overall. I think it handles fast playing and high gain like a champ! Power chords sound ballsy and clear, definitely a more "in your face" sound than Satriani's previous pickups.

Nice, thanks! Going to give it a try then for my next guitar. Already have the Evo Neck for the neck position and was looking for something to pair it with.
 
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Gplayerzzz - the Satchur8 has a pretty stiff and snappy bottom end. It's hard to say for sure without playing both Evo's back-to-back with the Satchur8, but, from memory, I'm definitely reminded a lot of the Evo 2's low end response, so if that's not your thing, this pickup may not be to your liking.

Final thoughts: The Satchur8 yields a surprising amount of expressiveness for such a high output design and its lively harmonic character is definitely worthy of the "Satriani" heritage. The bottom end is nice and tight and there are a LOT of very crisp sounding mids on tap, which give way to an interesting chime up top as the highs thin out ever so slightly on the unwound strings. I think the Satchur8 is a great pickup for players who desire tight and punchy rhythms that cut through, but still want to be able to pull off a really expressive solo without changing pickups or amp settings. I think the best way to describe this pickup's character is sort of a DiMarzio FRED meets the DiMarzio Evolution. There's nothing in the Duncan line that it reminds me of at all.

If I had to cite a weakness, it would be that the Satchur8 is still a bit over-the-top in the output department. DiMarzio is doing something really cool with this pickup, which strays a bit from their typical offerings, but a little softer response would go a long way. I love the punchiness, harmonics, articulation and immediacy it delivers, but, even with the volume rolled down, it's a hard pickup to get softer notes out of, which does limit its versatility a bit, at least for the mix of styles I like to play.

As a result, tonight I pulled the Satchur8 and put in the Illuminator...

Upon initial impression, with only a few minutes to play, the Illuminator is a little warmer in its voicing and slightly better behaved in the response department. It's still very high output, but more controllable. The bottom end is a little looser than the Satchur8's and the mid-mids aren't nearly as pushed, but notes on the unwound strings, especially at the higher frets, ring out with added fullness, which benefits this particular guitar. However, the Illuminator does seem to lack a bit of attitude and midrange cut, being a bit smoother overall. I'm actually looking forward to playing it back-to-back with my Axis, as the few minutes I spent with the Illuminator reminded me of the Axis bridge in some ways. Don't read into that too much, though. I'll update after I've had a little more time with the Illuminator.
Thanks man. I guess something like the D activator would be more my liking.
 
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So this and the Phineas review are still the ONLY reviews I can find on this pickup. Any more information on it?

I've got an alder hss I want to mod to have a good lead bridge tone, Satch/Vai style. I'm looking at the evo 2 but the satchur8 may be better as OP mentioned. The gravity storm sounds a bit brittle in vids but it was recommended to me as well.

How about this satchur8?!


Also, mastac: can you elaborate on "noisy humbucker"? Do you mean like hum or just the output level is high? I don't want to fight hum as my house wiring is pretty noisy as is.
 
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Also, mastac: can you elaborate on "noisy humbucker"? Do you mean like hum or just the output level is high? I don't want to fight hum as my house wiring is pretty noisy as is.

Hi Nagisa. I was a bit confused by your comment and then I saw post #69 where I had referred to fellow forum user "noisy humbucker" by his name, just as I referred to your username at the beginning of this post. I have gone back and edited his name out so others won't think I was referring to the pickup, ha ha! Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

To address your concern, the Satchur8 is NOT noisy. It's a rather quiet pickup (when not playing) and you should have no more issues with hum or buzz as a result of your home's wiring than you do with most other passive humbucker pickups. Sorry for the confusion.
 
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Gplayerzzz - the Satchur8 has a pretty stiff and snappy bottom end. It's hard to say for sure without playing both Evo's back-to-back with the Satchur8, but, from memory, I'm definitely reminded a lot of the Evo 2's low end response, so if that's not your thing, this pickup may not be to your liking.

Final thoughts: The Satchur8 yields a surprising amount of expressiveness for such a high output design and its lively harmonic character is definitely worthy of the "Satriani" heritage. The bottom end is nice and tight and there are a LOT of very crisp sounding mids on tap, which give way to an interesting chime up top as the highs thin out ever so slightly on the unwound strings. I think the Satchur8 is a great pickup for players who desire tight and punchy rhythms that cut through, but still want to be able to pull off a really expressive solo without changing pickups or amp settings. I think the best way to describe this pickup's character is sort of a DiMarzio FRED meets the DiMarzio Evolution. There's nothing in the Duncan line that it reminds me of at all.

If I had to cite a weakness, it would be that the Satchur8 is still a bit over-the-top in the output department. DiMarzio is doing something really cool with this pickup, which strays a bit from their typical offerings, but a little softer response would go a long way. I love the punchiness, harmonics, articulation and immediacy it delivers, but, even with the volume rolled down, it's a hard pickup to get softer notes out of, which does limit its versatility a bit, at least for the mix of styles I like to play.

As a result, tonight I pulled the Satchur8 and put in the Illuminator...

Upon initial impression, with only a few minutes to play, the Illuminator is a little warmer in its voicing and slightly better behaved in the response department. It's still very high output, but more controllable. The bottom end is a little looser than the Satchur8's and the mid-mids aren't nearly as pushed, but notes on the unwound strings, especially at the higher frets, ring out with added fullness, which benefits this particular guitar. However, the Illuminator does seem to lack a bit of attitude and midrange cut, being a bit smoother overall. I'm actually looking forward to playing it back-to-back with my Axis, as the few minutes I spent with the Illuminator reminded me of the Axis bridge in some ways. Don't read into that too much, though. I'll update after I've had a little more time with the Illuminator.

I really want to ask you what your added impression is of the illuminator now that you have had it for a bit especially in comparison to the satchur8. I’m really on the fence over choosing between these two bridge models. They both equally sound like fantastic pickups.
 
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Hey Joey, what are you looking for in a pickup?

The Illuminator is a little smoother/fuller sounding and a little less "clanky" in its response than the Satchur8. However, the Satchur8 is really unique and, in some ways, has more of its own character with a little more "rawness" and growl that I like. Nonetheless, there's a lot of overlap in terms of general output and what types of tones these two pickups can achieve.

I found the Illuminator softens up a tiny bit more than the Satchur8 with the volume rolled back, which I slightly prefer, since these are both really high output pickups.

I didn't attempt to split either of them, but I'm guessing both would yield some very believable "single coil" type tones, as well! In fact, if I were to try the Satchur8 again, I would make it a point to wire it with a coil split because I see a lot of potential there.

Harmonics on both are pretty incredible, with the Illuminator having a slightly more "bell" like quality and the Satchur8 yielding a little more bite and some more interesting overtones (similar to the DiMarzio Fred).

Didn't get a chance to A/B the Illuminator against the Axis bridge yet...I ended up swapping out the Illuminator out for a Chris Carter "Sounds of Sin" Axis bridge copy (which doesn't sound much like the actual Axis model to me) and I'm loving it!

I think I'm going to put the Illuminator in a Floyd-equipped Strat-style guitar soon. I'll report back once I do.
 
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Man I never decided on either the Dean baker act, BK painkiller, or dimarzio D acts. Nobody around me will take pickups back anymore, so im stuck with what I get. Not like the old days, when I could buy three at a time.
 
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