NGD - Modified Vintage Modified '70s Stratocaster

cliffenstein

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Guitar Center Used Gear had a listing for a "Used Squier 2010s Stratocaster Solid Body Electric Guitar Black" that I recognized as a VM70's Strat by the accompanying photo for just $79.99. I jumped on it, feeling the deal was too good to pass up. The next morning I received an email from the store manager letting me know that the wrong pic had been uploaded and then asked if I wanted to buy the one they intended to list (an HSS Affinity). I said no thanks. A few minutes later I emailed the manager back to let them know that I understand mistakes happen, but they really should honor the deal as originally pictured considering the guitar had been posted long enough to have the price reduced from $89.99 to $79.99. He agreed with me and then followed up to say that, unfortunately, the guitar pictured had already been sold and asked if I’d be okay with him locating another VM70’s within the GC network and that he’d honor the $79.99 price and overnight it to me for free. Of course I agreed to that. I then looked on the GC Used site and saw two more listed for $219.99. I sent him the link to one that was in a city relatively close to him. This one was in excellent condition and was a 2016 model. He made all the arrangements and sent the guitar.

The guitar arrived in what can honestly be best described as new condition. There wasn’t a single blemish, scratch or even fingerprint to be found. Both the pickguard and the tremolo cover both still had the thin plastic covering on them.

Since I only had $79.99 into this fine looking guitar, I decided it would be fun to completely upgrade it into an instrument I would be happy to gig with.

I upgraded the pot metal bridge and small block to a Fender Standard big block unit.

I had a Seymour Duncan JB Jr that was gifted to me from a friend that I decided to use. I didn't feel upgrading the middle or neck pickups was warranted. Actually, the bridge pickup doesn't need upgrading at all either, I just really like SD's single coil size humbuckers.

I took the guitar to a skilled guitar tech I’m friends with. He enlarged the pickguard knob holes to 3/8”, upgraded the mini pots to full size 250k CTS, the import pickup selector switch to Fender USA and replaced the output jack with a Switchcraft one. He also converted the wiring to a volume with single tone layout per my preference. The stock flimsy little .022uf cap broke while working on things so he replaced it with a brand new large size .047 orange drop cap.

He then properly cut the nut to handle 11 gauge strings, popped on Fender pickup covers and knobs, adjusted the neck and set up the intonation and action.

I picked up a black 3/8” hole plug from Lowe’s on the way home to complete things with and popped it in.

Total monies spent: $163.76 (includes all tax...there were no shipping charges for anything), breakdown as follows:

Guitar $84.23
Fender big block bridge $28.87
Straplocks $13.95
Parts $25.56
Labor $10 (friend deal!)
3/8” hole plug $1.15

The guitar now feels, plays and sounds as good as my 2013 Fender Japan Limited Edition '54 Stratocaster. This VM70’s wasn’t junk to begin with, but at the price I got it for, I figured it wasn’t a losing proposition to really make it all it could be.

FYI: The tuners are made by Ping and need no upgrading. The nut is the same synthetic bone that Fender uses on it's MIM and American offerings, so no desire to upgrade there either.

I don't have the best caliper, but the most accurate neck measurements I could get are as follows:
.846" at first fret (21.5 mm)
.905" at 12th fret (23 mm)

That's very similar to Fender Standard neck, but it's a C instead of a Modern C so it has a bit more shoulders to it. It's got smoother fretboard edges than MIM Standards though (almost rolled)...very comfortable.

Oh...and the fretwork is impeccable!

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That’s a great look for a Strat, and those VMs are nice — even at regular price!
 
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Guitar Center Used Gear had a good condition 2012 VM70’s Stratocaster listed for just $79.99. I jumped on it, feeling the deal was too good to pass up. The next morning I received an email from the store manager letting me know that the wrong pic had been uploaded and then asked if I want to buy the one they intended to list (an HSS Affinity). I said no thanks. A few minutes later I emailed the manager back to let them know that I understand mistakes happen, but they really should honor the deal as originally pictured. He agreed and then followed up to say that, unfortunately, the guitar pictured had already been sold. He then wrote asking if I’d be okay with him locating another VM70’s within the GC network and that he’d honor the $79.99 price and overnight it to me for free. Of course I agreed to that. I then looked on the site and saw two more listed for $219.99. I sent him the link to one that was in a city relatively close to him. This one was in excellent condition and was a 2016 model. He made all the arrangements and sent the guitar.

The guitar arrived in what can honestly be best described as new condition. There wasn’t a single blemish, scratch or even fingerprint to be found. Both the pickguard and the tremolo cover both still had the thin plastic covering on them.

Since I only had $79.99 into this fine looking guitar, I decided it would be fun to completely upgrade it into an instrument I would be happy to gig with.

I upgraded the pot metal bridge and small block to a Fender Standard big block unit. This particular VM70’s had the full size claw (not the mini claw the early VM’s had) and good quality mounting screws, so I was good there.

I had a Seymour Duncan JB Jr that was gifted to me from a friend that I decided to use. I didn't feel upgrading the middle or neck pickups was warranted.

I took the guitar to a skilled guitar tech I’m friends with. He enlarged the pickguard knob holes to 3/8”, upgraded the mini pots to full size 250k CTS, the import pickup selector switch to a Fender USA one and replaced the output jack with a Switchcraft one. He also converted the wiring to a volume with single tone layout per my preference. The stock flimsy little .022uf cap broke while working on things so he replaced it with a brand new large size .047 orange drop cap.

He then properly cut the nut to handle 11 gauge strings, popped on Fender pickup covers and knobs, adjusted the neck and set up the intonation and action.

I picked up a black 3/8” hole plug from Lowe’s on the way home to complete things with and popped it in.

Total monies spent: $163.76 (includes all tax...there were no shipping charges for anything), breakdown as follows:

Guitar $84.23
Fender big block bridge $28.87
Straplocks $13.95
Parts $25.56
Labor $10 (friend deal!)
3/8” hope plug $1.15

The guitar now feels, plays and sounds as good as my 2013 Fender Japan Limited Edition Stratocaster. This VM70’s wasn’t junk to begin with, but at the price I got it for, I figured it wasn’t a losing proposition to really make it all it could be.

FYI: The tuners are made by Ping and need no upgrading. The nut is the same synthetic bone that Fender uses on it's MIM and American offerings, so no need to upgrade there either.

Neck measurements are
.846" at first fret (21.5 mm)
.905" at 12th fret (23 mm)

That's very similar to Fender Standard neck, but it's a C instead of a Modern C so it has a bit more shoulders to it. It's got smoother fretboard edges though (almost rolled)...very comfortable.

Oh...and the fretwork is impeccable!

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Absolutely awesome! Did u add an extra string tree in too? And are the tuners that good? I have a set of gotoh vintage tuners I’m going to put on my VM strat when it arrives, would that be better?


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Re: NGD - Modified Vintage Modified '70s Stratocaster

Absolutely awesome! Did u add an extra string tree in too? And are the tuners that good? I have a set of gotoh vintage tuners I’m going to put on my VM strat when it arrives, would that be better?

The tuners on the Vintage Modified Strats are the same regardless of whether they are regular VM or VM70's. They are made by Ping and are VERY good tuners with all metal parts that do not need to be upgraded at all. The only reason you should change them would be if you don't like vintage style tuners. Your Gotoh tuners look pretty much identical to the Ping ones that are on the VM. Gotoh is a well made and respected brand and will be a direct drop in for you if you decide to swap out the Pings.

I did not add any string trees. the '70s VMs come with two...the regular VMs only come with the one.
 
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Well played, sir, well played indeed! :clap:

New electronics, new bridge, JB Jr, all black aesthetic....I would give you two bills for it right now.
 
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Out of curiosity- was the ad for labeled for an Affinity with a picture of a VM? Or was the ad straight up for a VM, then they told you the price was for the Affinity?

I see mislabeled items on their site all the time, so I'm curious about how they acted in this particular situation.
 
Re: NGD - Modified Vintage Modified '70s Stratocaster

Out of curiosity- was the ad for labeled for an Affinity with a picture of a VM? Or was the ad straight up for a VM, then they told you the price was for the Affinity?

I see mislabeled items on their site all the time, so I'm curious about how they acted in this particular situation.

It was listed as "Used Squier 2010s Stratocaster Solid Body Electric Guitar Black" and then the picture of the guitar. I figured they just didn't know what they had, but I knew what it was so I bought it.
 
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Awesome score! I have a VMJM new from an european store for around 150 dollars, enough money on the side to do some upgrading. Only thing lacking is the trem, but I'll have that sorted out over time.
 
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