Orange Dark Terror

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Kenny said:
Does more speakers make you louder?
Because the amount of watt doesn't change. Doesn't the power just spread to more speakers changing the tone but not volume?
If I am going to get a 1x12 should I get 8 ohms or 10 ohms speaker? Does it matter?
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I don't think there is a set rule as to wether 8 or 16 ohms versions of the same speaker sound louder. Usually 8 ohms sound a tad less bright, but that has more to do with how the output transformer is set on each amp to adjust to the speaker load. Tube amps are NOT like solid state amps that are more efficienty when they see less ohms.

I don't think more speakers is louder, no. A bigger cab with more speakers does sound "bigger", but the wattage the amp is putting out is spread on to the several speakers, so each speaker has less watts moving it. If you're running a 1x12, yes, it will sound smaller, yes, it won't "fill the room" as nicely as a 4x12, yes, there will probably be more speaker breakup than with a 4x12, and yes, the tone will probably be less "spread out" than with a 4x12, but it can get loud, especially if you bring it closer to ear level by putting it on a chair or table or angling it upwards.

That being said, though, a bigger cab will sound more "metal", lol, but if portability is an issue, a 1x12 will get the job done.
 
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That what I thought. I ve read several people said that more speakers make you louder (with the same amount of watts)
I have never played 4x12 so I don't know what will I miss. And better not to play, cause than I will probably want it!! lol
 
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More speakers push more air and you will get a perceived increase in volume as well as feeling the lows better.

Speaker efficiency should play a part as well. Speakers generally get rated in decibels for 1W@1meter

There is a substantial difference in 92 db rated 1w@1meter than 105db 1w@1meter. Increses in db after that are exponential and start requiring good amounts of power, but if the speakers are more efficient, then you will get higher db out of less watts
 
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Kenny said:
How to understand which speaker has which efficiency?
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Cabinets should have speaker model listed. Speaker manufacturers will have the specs on models.

Look for sensitivity rating. For instance - Celestion Vintage 30 has a sensitivity rating of 100db. That rating is 100db at 1W@1Meter

There is a lot more to that in selecting speakers though. You need to look at frequency characteristics and know what frequencies you want your guitar sound projected at most.

If you don't have all the speaker knowledge, then go with some cabinet recommendations from other forum members with the same amp/speaker cab experience. Various speaker reviews all over the net. Read up. I think the Dark Terror is not going to give you what you want based on your questions about clean sounds. Its not an amp for pushing cleans loud because it is a high gain oriented one channel amp. If you want good loud cleans, go for more watts and a low gain one channel amp or a two channel amp known for good cleans. I think something like an Engl Ironball would suit your needs better if still wanting a head that is compact, does bedroom levels as well as enough to push in a small venue or go for more watts in something like a Randall Diavlo RD45. High gain, great cleans, compact. Even a Laney Ironheart 60 watt head would fit better.

Just my opinion. Nothing wrong with Orange Dark Terror, but it is a one channel amp that will do clean, but not super loud sparkly cleans. Its real plus is cranking it up for that Orange high gain sound (which is pretty awesome anyway)

As far as cabinets - good birch cabinet and if you can get an angled cab, it will project to you a little better since slightly pointed up rather than straight ahead and sitting low. Several make 1/12 slant cabs - Mesa Boogie, Randall are two I can think of right away. That or elevate your 1/12 on a stand so it projects to you better. An open back 1/12 might also get the sound less one directional.
 
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Thank you for the information. It is really helpfull! :biglaugh:
But I don't need cleans. I almost never leave the high gain range.
 
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Kenny said:
Thank you for the information. It is really helpfull! :biglaugh:
But I don't need cleans. I almost never leave the high gain range.
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Ok. I commented because you seemed concerned earlier with how loud the cleans would be.
 
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its the stereo effect. try it in your car audio. Only one speaker sounds wimpy. Playing both left and right speakers though will sound "bigger".
 
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Oh, I might have written not what I thought. But I am still concerned with how loud the high gain would be.
 
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I think I know the answer to this but want to check. If I am using the Tiny Terror with headphones there is no need to plug it into a cab. Correct?
 
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Securb said:
I think I know the answer to this but want to check. If I am using the Tiny Terror with headphones there is no need to plug it into a cab. Correct?
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You can do that with the Micro amps because they use solid state power... the all-tube Tiny Terror should stay hooked up to a speaker.
 
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Kenny said:
Does more speakers make you louder?
Because the amount of watt doesn't change. Doesn't the power just spread to more speakers changing the tone but not volume?
If I am going to get a 1x12 should I get 8 ohms or 10 ohms speaker? Does it matter?
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more speakers means more air flow..no way a 1x12 can push as much air as a glorious 4x12 ...impedance doesn't matter as long as it is matched to the head.. the sensitivity rating of the speakers matter (i.e. efficiency) quite a bit as well as the construction of the cabinet
 
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