Paul Gilbert Live Solo. Holy Smokes!

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It's amazing to me how metal heads and shredders go GahGah watching some guy play a technical exercise! LOL! ROFLCOPTER! Look, I won't deny the guy recognition for his chops but how is this musical? I didn't hear one chord change not even one. The whole thing with exception of some chromatic step up sequences is a run based on a single scale/tonality. It's the kind of thing your guitar instructor would ask you to practice at home! Jeeez!
 
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COOL video--Paul is still one of my favorite guitarists from that era! I saw him perform live with Racer X and with Mr. Big--he never failed to impress!
 
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Osensei, he's showing off. That was the whole point of spotlight solos back then, show your chops and be flashy.

Paul was the first player since EVH hit the scene to make be go "WTF was that?" I was that floored when I first heard him. Saw Mr. Big live in 1992 on their second tour. Freakin' amazing. He and Sheehan together was just sick to watch sometimes. They complimented each other so well.

Great vid, Joe. :fing2:
 
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I like Paul. I've met him. He did a seminar at my local shop before the first mr. Big album came out. Good guy. Seems to have the right attitude, the seminar was a blast and he's got MONSTER chops. VERY clean player. And he actually has a good beatle-esque sense of melody when he uses it. But I got sick of his playing real quick (and yeah..def not good guitar TONE AFAIC..though for the day, it was typical)

I always liked Bruce Bouillet(sp) better. On that racerX live disc...Paul goes ape$hit with the technical stuff in his solo...the harmonizer...the drill...etc. It's cool for about a minute...then...blah...

Bruce comes on for his solo and shreds over a classic blues progression...LOVE it.

I can't watch thie vid at work, but if it's what I think it is I've seen it..I always thought he should have stayed in Racer-X...they could write good songs..even pop-like hits (anyone remember "livin' the hard way"?) Mr. Big was just horrible corporate pop hair metal. I was sooooo disappointed in that album when it came out.

but no doubt the guy is a killer player....Scary player :bigthumb:
 
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JeffB said:
was waiting for someone to say that :D
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it was just a matter of who's faster lol... it was bound to happen :laugh2:

you guys saw the scarified tutorial thats on youtube?


ARGH ... youtube is changing the layout
 
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Osensei said:
It's amazing to me how metal heads and shredders go GahGah watching some guy play a technical exercise! LOL! ROFLCOPTER! Look, I won't deny the guy recognition for his chops but how is this musical? I didn't hear one chord change not even one. The whole thing with exception of some chromatic step up sequences is a run based on a single scale/tonality. It's the kind of thing your guitar instructor would ask you to practice at home! Jeeez!
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Since when are solo spots musical? Being musical is when you're with the band. Solo spots are supposed to be technical and freakin cool!!!!!!

I'd love to hear some guy break out into a solo spot playin some G, Em, D chords just strumming a basic 4/4. "So dude why didn't you wail during your solo spot?" Yeah well my strumming was much more musical *audience is asleep*
 
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vinterland said:
Since when are solo spots musical? Being musical is when you're with the band. Solo spots are supposed to be technical and freakin cool!!!!!!

I'd love to hear some guy break out into a solo spot playin some G, Em, D chords just strumming a basic 4/4. "So dude why didn't you wail during your solo spot?" Yeah well my strumming was much more musical *audience is asleep*
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Hey, man, do you have something against a smashing pumpkin's type of spot-light solo? ;)
 
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nuntius said:
Gilbert plays drums???

I know Jeff does, but I didn't know Paul did :/
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Yup.

He's a PA dude...lives (used to?) around Philly and I'd always hear these stories and tapes of Paul walking into an open mic somewhere or seeing a cover band at some dive bar and people would always want him to play 'ya know?

So he'd get there but refuse to play guitar so he'll grab the drum sticks and bash out wicked deep classic rock stuff on the kit! Back in the day I used to have a tape of some off-shoot cover band he was in with some other scary LA players...they're doing all those impossible Beatles tunes like "I am the Walrus" and whatever...Deep Purple.

'Tis groovy stuff.
 
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Sure Gilbert's performance here is full of humour but as Osensei wrote , technically speaking it is just a warming exercice , nothing musical or scary here . And the tone is awfull ; no treebles , no scream , just a polite Dimarzio mid-bass with lots of ouput , very ordinary , you could say he is playing on the neck pickup all the time !
I have Gilbert's "technical difficulties" and it is the same ; nothing musical , nothing new , no technical difficulties : boring .
But he has a nice haircut !
 
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um...

you guys are totaly missing the point here..

solo spots are ABOUT being faster than everybody else, pull more tapping/pull offs/speed picking licks in a minute than everybody else and i think there is a rule, that says it must not make any sense whatsoever. its about SHOWING OFF, boasting your ego and all that shyt.

gilberts videos are about showing starting musicians how to tackle the guitar, so if you are an old cat in all of this, it holds nothing for you.

and i dont see why someone would change the entire settings of his rig that sounds good with the band for a solo spot that is just 5% of the whole show.

it makes me wonder if you guys are playing in a band at all, or know what it takes to be heard in a band. judging by that, obviously not. having a full, broad sound alone will get you lost in the full mix. the tone is supposed to be thin.
and before you go XYZ has a better tone.

dude.. this was the 80's .. and its frickin hair metal (very technical and fast hair metail, but still hair metal). what do you expect.
 
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I didn't say he should strum chords! But he could have played a solo that followed a progression. Even though the actual chords would have never been played, the ear would have still heard some suggestion of a harmonic progression. That's what I meant. This exhibition is a bunch of scale and arpeggio exercises. And based on a single scale (mostly) at that! I did hear a little diminished noodle and a little blues scale near the end. It's amazing how so many are impressed by such mediocracy.

No, I guess solo spots don't have to be musical if your goal is to deliver bad taste. It just goes to show that audiences will applaude just about anything. This is why I draw my musical inspiration from Non-U.S. and Non-E.U. countries like Brasil.
 
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Osensei said:
I didn't say he should strum chords! But he could have played a solo that followed a progression. Even though the actual chords would have never been played, the ear would have still heard some suggestion of a harmonic progression. That's what I meant. This exhibition is a bunch of scale and arpeggio exercises. And based on a single scale (mostly) at that! I did hear a little diminished noodle and a little blues scale near the end. It's amazing how so many are impressed by such mediocracy.

No, I guess solo spots don't have to be musical if your goal is to deliver bad taste. It just goes to show that audiences will applaude just about anything. This is why I draw my musical inspiration from Non-U.S. and Non-E.U. countries like Brasil.
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Maybe your ears can't follow a musical progression in the background.
 
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I think you should give us (metalheads a break), It was the 80s and although im 21 (wasnt around at that time), I can enjoy that a lot.

I hate when people come bashing fast solos saying that they are not musical.
If you cant play that fast, fine, but dont go against the people that can. If you think you can do a better job by playing a melody, then go over there and play it. Ill stay in the other corner and play my shreds.

As dave mustaine described Jazz:
"You just sit there with a guitar the size of a Chevy on your chest, wearing a stupid hat, playing the same solo for an hour".

and let me add, the guitar with the tone knob actually doing something.

To each it's own.


Just one more thing. If you want to watch Gilbert doing melody and speed, look for a video of a ibanez 90th aniversary, where he plays with steve vai and a some guy with a Sax. Its pretty nice.

Get it from P2P
Ibanez 90Th Anniversary - Andy Timmons - Steve Vai - Paul Gilbert - Live.mpg

And heres a cool one. He plays colorado bulldog by MrBig. Nice song.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-999800149020216746&q=paul+gilbert&pl=true
 
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It is ok there , but i notice is has a terrible position of the right hand , long fingers but all stuck together , unlike classical players .
 
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Osensei said:
I didn't say he should strum chords! But he could have played a solo that followed a progression. Even though the actual chords would have never been played, the ear would have still heard some suggestion of a harmonic progression. That's what I meant. This exhibition is a bunch of scale and arpeggio exercises. And based on a single scale (mostly) at that! I did hear a little diminished noodle and a little blues scale near the end. It's amazing how so many are impressed by such mediocracy.

No, I guess solo spots don't have to be musical if your goal is to deliver bad taste. It just goes to show that audiences will applaude just about anything. This is why I draw my musical inspiration from Non-U.S. and Non-E.U. countries like Brasil.
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Well technically some on the arpeggiated figures he plays near the beginning do imply a chord progression, but judging a musical piece's merits based on its theoretical complexity seems ridiculous to me, so I digress...

What confuses me is the zeal with which you apply yourself to belittling the music others enjoy. I understand that you don't enjoy this particular piece and style of music (I don't either, and am not a big Paul Gilbert/Mr. Big/Racer X fan) and good on you for expressing that opinion. Why this leads you to declare that anyone who disagrees with you has "bad taste" I don't know. Your contribution to this forum seems to be jumping into threads like this one and insinuating that people who like this genre of music are ignoramuses, that this kind of music is some how "inferior" to whatever it is that you enjoy, and that phrasing and melody are more important than technical ability.

WE ****ING GET IT!!! This forum doesn't need a self-appointed nemesis of 16th notes lurking around and wagging their finger every time someone plays fast. Do you really think everyone here is completely ignorant of musical concepts like phrasing, dynamics, melody, and harmonic progression? If that's what you want to discuss, why did you choose a Paul Gilbert solo spot thread? If you are such a superior and enlightened musician/person, so be it. At least have the courtesy to let others enjoy and applaud "mediocrity" without the constant sermons... :cussing:
 
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mind_transplant said:
WE ****ING GET IT!!! This forum doesn't need a self-appointed nemesis of 16th notes lurking around and wagging their finger every time someone plays fast. Do you really think everyone here is completely ignorant of musical concepts like phrasing, dynamics, melody, and harmonic progression? If that's what you want to discuss, why did you choose a Paul Gilbert solo spot thread? If you are such a superior and enlightened musician/person, so be it. At least have the courtesy to let others enjoy and applaud "mediocrity" without the constant sermons... :cussing:
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pWNED

:laugh2:
 
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