Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

[malymal86]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

All of the combos I tried felt very harsh. The line 6 spider valves sounded better imo. Plus I've heard so many bad things about the firmware updates.
But I would go the extra mile and get the 6505

i had a line6 spider once and hated it, it would short out on me and the pedal didn't work ether. i will never go back to a line6 anything in my whole life

 

[malymal86]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

The Vypyr Tube 60 I use for everything is not lacking for anything. It does all kinds of sounds pretty well, and it has all that tube goodness, too. I feel as if I robbed Guitar Center when the price is $450. It sounds REALLY good. Not digitally compressed at all.

 

[metalmachine]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

i have a 5150 (same amp) and i primarly play metal but i can get awsome punk tones and killer southern rock sounds with a mxr gt-od out front. great amp. cleans are not amazing but definatly usable.

 

[Mattr4president]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

The modeling aspect is subjective but I bet if you go crank them side by side and the 6505 will feel much more natural and crushing

 

[malymal86]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

The modeling aspect is subjective but I bet if you go crank them side by side and the 6505 will feel much more natural and crushing

i am going to check them both out befor i buy a amp. but it would be nice to have some extra cash to put in to my les paul.

 

[metalmachine]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

amp is more important than guitar IMO as far as pure sound goes

 

[malymal86]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

i found a Marshall 65r valvestate amp used for $220! he's holding it for me for friday,any good experience with? i have never paly'd one

 

[Empty Pockets]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

dude stop asking about cheap crappy gear

you keep getting me all excited, asking about Les Pauls and sweet tube amps, and then buying ****ing Epiphones and Marshall MG's

i mean if you really don't care about how it sounds, why are you asking?

 

[malymal86]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

dude stop asking about cheap crappy gear

you keep getting me all excited, asking about Les Pauls and sweet tube amps, and then buying ****ing Epiphones and Marshall MG's

i mean if you really don't care about how it sounds, why are you asking?

cheap crapy gear man u have no idea how i live thrers no way that i can spend loads of mony on a ****ing hobble when i have a family to support. sooo **** off u rich prick

 

[malymal86]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

hey thanks alot for all the bros that did help me out, ill let my ears be the judge of how shop for my amp just like it should be in the first place, peace im done with this **** for awhile.

 

[Empty Pockets]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

hey man i didn't wana piss in your cheerios -- i have a pretty dry and sarcastic sense of humor and i forget that not everybody on this forum knows that sometimes.

all's i'm saying is, for $220, you can do way better than a Marshall MG...and that if you want a 6505 (read: real professional-quality tour-ready amp) then comparing it to a Vypyr or an MG (read: lower-quality 'affordable' gear) comes off as a joke to me.

i'm not trying to judge you or your lifestyle. i'm just tired of seeing people give you spot-on recommendations based on real experience with all kinds of different gear, and you saying "Oh well I found something cheaper so I'm buying that."

if you just want something cheap that will let you hear your guitar louder, that Fender Mustang I is what you need.

and i'm not a "rich prick," dude. i work and save until i have enough for what i want. i put $100 a month in the bank (when i could!) for over a year before i was able to buy my Gibson Les Paul Custom. I could've had something in less than half the time if I wanted to settle...but I did my homework, found out what was good and what was crap, and got good stuff!

i think you'd get more enjoyment out of your gear if you did the same, but, enjoy your epiphone and your MG.

 

[malymal86]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

Cool man no worrys and the Marshall is a valvestate witch means it has tubes right? That's what the dude told me and that's why I said I wanted it I thought it was a great deal. But hey if its a solid state amp please let me know! I want a tube amp not a mg or any solodstate. Maybe I will just go with the 6505!

 

[Agileguy_101]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

Cool man no worrys and the Marshall is a valvestate witch means it has tubes right? That's what the dude told me and that's why I said I wanted it I thought it was a great deal. But hey if its a solid state amp please let me know! I want a tube amp not a mg or any solodstate. Maybe I will just go with the 6505!

IIRC the Valvestate is a hybrid amp, much like the Vox VT series. However, unlike the VT's, the Marshall Valvestates sound like ass. Perhaps less ass-like than the MG's, but still square on the ass. If you're buying new, the 6505 is a really really good choice because if you ever decide you want something else, or you just have to sell it because you need money, it will actually retain some semblance of what you paid for it, unlike any Marshall under 2K.

 

[malymal86]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

IIRC the Valvestate is a hybrid amp, much like the Vox VT series. However, unlike the VT's, the Marshall Valvestates sound like ass. Perhaps less ass-like than the MG's, but still square on the ass. If you're buying new, the 6505 is a really really good choice because if you ever decide you want something else, or you just have to sell it because you need money, it will actually retain some semblance of what you paid for it, unlike any Marshall under 2K.

Tanks man i have never thought of it like that before.

 

[Chickenwings]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

a real punk would not ask for advice!
However since you did ask...
a 6505 is in a totally different league of amps to a vypyr. You will have a ball chunking away with it and never look back at those awful digital amp facsimilies again.

 

[Mattr4president]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

I feel you on the lack of funds thing man. But still, we're all talking from experience.The valvestates are hybrids, and they still sounds like crap. It's just impossible to compare a valvestate and a 6505. Like I said, if you can afford it, go with the 6505. Just because something says Marshall doesn't mean it's good. Also, do yourself a favor and check out Jet City stuff. It's well priced and has good tones.

 

[eschoendorff]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

IIRC the Valvestate is a hybrid amp, much like the Vox VT series. However, unlike the VT's, the Marshall Valvestates sound like ass. Perhaps less ass-like than the MG's, but still square on the ass. If you're buying new, the 6505 is a really really good choice because if you ever decide you want something else, or you just have to sell it because you need money, it will actually retain some semblance of what you paid for it, unlike any Marshall under 2K.

During the mid 1990s, I was playing through a Valvestate (still have mine) and saw many bands in clubs playing Valvestates. The Valvestates are a hybrid, but the tube is in the preamp rather than being in the power section like the Vox VT series (have one of those too).

The only way Valvestates sound like ass is if there is an ass of a player playing through one. They do not exactly sound like a fully tube Marshall, but they have their own aggressive Marshall character that lends itself well to aggressive music - and they take FX pretty well (put an EQ in the loop and a boost at the front, run through a 1960 4x12 and watch out!).

In addition, of all the tube amps that I've seen for sale, Peavey tube amps have some of the worst re-sale value. Not the worst, but they aren't going to retain their value like a Mesa or a Marshall - mostly because sooo many people have them (due to the fact that when on sale, they're affordable new)

It's posts like yours that exacerbate the problem of misinformation on the internet. :smack:

 

[misterwhizzy]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

I think a person can only really experience for himself the difference between a tube amp and a solid-state one. There are solid-state amps out there that work for people, but I am not one of them. Although you can manage to dial in some good tones on some of those amps, it just doesn't feel the same.

And to me, that's the biggest thing. If I'm not feeling the music, I don't perform as well. If you're inspired, you're rocking out. If you're not, you're not. It's really as simple as that. If you find yourself inspired by the amp you're looking at, go for it. But try a bunch out first, just to see where you stand.

Now as far as the Valvestate stuff goes, it's got one preamp tube and a bunch of solid state stuff. Several amps into my playing career, I had a Randall hybrid with a solid-state preamp and hybrid tube power section, and I could never gel with it. Then I got a Blackstar HT-5, which has a tube in the preamp and a legitimate power tube section, but it wasn't voiced exactly like I wanted. I still have it, but it doesn't get as much playing time. Not because of any tube cork-sniffery, but just because it doesn't have the tube graininess that I like.

The guys from Blackstar were working on those Valvestate amps, but--and I'm relaying the story from memory so it may not be 100%--they weren't able to accomplish what they wanted to because Marshall higher-ups weren't as interested in good tones as they were in giving their customers the Valvestate stuff. So they left and started their own company. That may be worth looking into, especially something like the HT Stage 60 or Stage 100.

I am a huge fan of the Jet City stuff, and the amp I play the most these days is a JCA20H, but I don't know punk tones all that well. They do real well for high gain rock and classic metal, but if you want clean, you're not going to find it there. If you know Soldano, that's what you're hearing. It's not high-end, but let's be honest. Neither is Valvestate.

Honestly, I think the recommendation of a 6505 combo is probably right up your alley. At least go check it out. And be very, very sure you want a hybrid before you go buy one. The Mode 4 worked for Alex Skolnick and for the dude from System of a Down for a while, so it can definitely work, but there's a reason there are so few of them being produced these days.

 

[eschoendorff]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

Tanks man i have never thought of it like that before.

You didn't think of it like that before because thinking of it like "that" doesn't make any sense. See post #37.

 

[malymal86]

Re: Peavey 6505 112 tube combo,

Yea im just gonna go and try a couple of them here real soon!