Peavey 6505 2x12 Combo?

[Loserchief]

I have a lot of working coming my way during summer and most of the money i'll earn will run into guitar equipment(there was a slight miscalculation for my trip to japan, so i i basically will have all the money left, which imo is pretty cool). So after thinking about some new guitars i came to the conclusion that another amp would be way more useful.
So i'm looking for a combo around 50W, all tube, with lots of gain to use.
Naturally i came to look at the 6505 2x12 combo.
My question is this: does this small combo version of the 6505 with it's 60W have the same sound characteristics as the full blown headversion with 120w. I want the 5150 sound but i don't need another big head and the combo looks like it would fit my bill perfectly. it would be way more tranpostable and probably better to use for smaller venues.
Would it be a good idea to change the speakers in it for vintage 30s(i love them in my Engl cabs)?
So give me all the infos you have and fell free to recommend something else if you think this combo sucks, just keep it around the same price level and think of the fact that i'm not in the US.

Edit: Style would be mostly Death and Black metal with some occasional cleans, lots of shredding on the leads and a lot of droptunings.
Not looking for an Engl screamer since i allready own an Engl. Just wanted to add this since i thought the screamer would be suggested sooner or later.

 

[Loserchief]

Re: Peavey 6505 2x12 Combo?

now that everything is getting fuller on the board, a little bump.

 

[taphappy]

Re: Peavey 6505 2x12 Combo?

The combo version is a little darker than the head and is still very loud.

 

[anewdefguitarist]

Re: Peavey 6505 2x12 Combo?

i played one in a store, and i agree with taphappy, it sounded dark...a little too dark for my liking...id venture to say almost muddy...but the head i liked. i dont know...i got a single recto 1x12 combo for $1000 and im in love with it...it was used though. the only advice i like to give people for live playing is that really, when all is said and done, its gotta sound good coming through the up-fronts

 

[FamousForSustain]

Re: Peavey 6505 2x12 Combo?

Word on the combo is that it does sound different from the head, I think I've heard some people say they like the combo better and others the head.

 

[Jeff Dunne]

Re: Peavey 6505 2x12 Combo?

It's a bit different, mainly because it's biased warmer than the heads - I'd have the bias mod done on any of em, though, so it's no real biggie.

http://fjamods.com/HeadVSCombo.html

honestly, I think with a speaker change, the combo is a ******ned awesome rig!

 

[taphappy]

Re: Peavey 6505 2x12 Combo?

It's a bit different, mainly because it's biased warmer than the heads - I'd have the bias mod done on any of em, though, so it's no real biggie.

http://fjamods.com/HeadVSCombo.html

honestly, I think with a speaker change, the combo is a ******ned awesome rig!

I'm seriously considering replacing the speakers. Do you recommend two Vintage 30's or a mix?

 

[Jeff Dunne]

Re: Peavey 6505 2x12 Combo?

I'm seriously considering replacing the speakers. Do you recommend two Vintage 30's or a mix?

Vintage 30's, by far... Mixing speakers in the same cab can seriously ruin a mic'd tone, but if you're not micing it, I still prefer the sound of V30's by themselves.

V30's should fix the darkness you guys have exerienced - the Sheffields are just higher wattage Greenback clones.

 

[Loserchief]

Re: Peavey 6505 2x12 Combo?

so with V30s there should cure most of the darkness and after that it should sound pretty close to the head version. That sounds promising,now let's hope i get enough money and then one of those amps will probably be mine

 

[Loserchief]

Re: Peavey 6505 2x12 Combo?

Update: so i was out amp testing and the 6505 is officially out of my list. It's just too much of a one trick pony for me and with upgraded speakers it would come out quite pricey for what it is. I love the high gain sound but i need more diversity to be happy with an amp. The cleans just aren't upto par with what i can get from my Powerball.
I spend lots of time with an Engl Screamer 50 and came to the conclusion,that it's the perfect amp for my Purpose. The 1x12 combo and an addtional 1x12 extension cab will cost me less than the 6505 combo and will already have vintage 30s installed(no cost for speaker upgrade). I can use the z-5 footswitch i have with the screamer(everything readily available) and the tonal palette is just way bigger. With the screamer i'd basicly have a downsized version of my powerball rig. less Watts, less speakers, nearly the same tones.

 

[Jeff Dunne]

Re: Peavey 6505 2x12 Combo?

Damn... the Screamer can handle high gain tones like that? I was looking at a Fireball before, IIRC, those are even cheaper.

But yes, the 5150 is a total one trick pony, part of the reason I like it.

 

[Loserchief]

Re: Peavey 6505 2x12 Combo?

Damn... the Screamer can handle high gain tones like that? I was looking at a Fireball before, IIRC, those are even cheaper.

But yes, the 5150 is a total one trick pony, part of the reason I like it.

Well not as much gain as the Powerball when used on it's own, but that's where a good OD comes into play. But it has he same tightness and power and handles even ultra high gain very well.