Pickup Makers Thread - 4 - those who wind or want to know how

[Zhangliqun]

Re: Pickup Makers Thread - 4 - those who wind or want to know how

I have no idea what "dual wind" means. Maybe they are just winding on from two wire spools at the same time. If so, I guess you could have a single coil pickup in parallel or in series with itself. I'm now curious what that would sound like. Maybe when I get this round of rewinds out of the way I'll try sumpin' crazy-like...

 

[Gibsononly]

Re: Pickup Makers Thread - 4 - those who wind or want to know how

Aye, but here's the rub. Humbuckers are electrically in phase and magnetically out of phase, which is what allows the signal through. If both coils were electrically and magneticaly in phase they would cancel each other out - i.e. no sound. I just can't visualize a method of having two coils on the same bobbin with opposite polarity.

As for winding with two wires, if you wound to 6k series wiring would produce 12k and parallel would be 3k. However, it might be interesting to wind to 16k ( damn small wires) and connect them parallel.

 

[jerry68]

Re: Pickup Makers Thread - 4 - those who wind or want to know how

Good thread. I have, in the past, only rewound damaged Fender pups. What is the quality of the Stew Mac stuff? Is it worth practicing on?

 

[zionstrat]

Re: Pickup Makers Thread - 4 - those who wind or want to know how

I may be wrong but always thought that bardens was essentialy a tap, the 2nd wire being the 'dual' but maybe i misunderstood-

but that was the functional purpose- does sound impossible to be noise cancelling but maybe the pupose was tap like all along? 2nd coil adds windes for more power less treble?

Off topic, there was a cool thread out there a year ago about winding a strat pup pole against pole noise canceling- in otherwords there is an entire coil for each pole piece and then they tried again with 3 poles per coil-

Apparently it worked well but required 6 or 2 times as many winds since you need the same number of windes in each coil-

 

[Zhangliqun]

Re: Pickup Makers Thread - 4 - those who wind or want to know how

Good thread. I have, in the past, only rewound damaged Fender pups. What is the quality of the Stew Mac stuff? Is it worth practicing on?

Their single coil stuff is fine except for the rod magnets -- don't bother with them, they're awful. I just got some in from Allstar. Haven't tried them out yet but their bar magnets are good so I assume the same for the rods. I won't even bother to try the Stewmac bar magnets since the rods were so terrible (very dark, weak tone even after I magnetized them thoroughly).

The good thing with the Stewmac stuff is you don't have to order the whole kit -- you can order the flatwork for the single coils separately and get your magnets somewhere else as I am doing.

 

[ParameterMan]

Re: Pickup Makers Thread - 4 - those who wind or want to know how

As far as I know, "dual wind" means winding the coil with two stages, each a different guage. It's the easiest and most useful when coil-tapping, to wind to a clean bright vintage tone and then be able to fit a seriously fattening overwound sound on the bobbin.