Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
Yeah I'd say the Jazz can do that sound, it might be bright but it's not lacking bottom end.
Yeah I'd say the Jazz can do that sound, it might be bright but it's not lacking bottom end.
Pickups for a Les Paul
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guitarSQUIRELL
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Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
Im wanting to stick with that bluesy sound since it is an LP copy I have. So I dont want anything to shrill or bright in the neck I think....If thats what you would call it
Im wanting to stick with that bluesy sound since it is an LP copy I have. So I dont want anything to shrill or bright in the neck I think....If thats what you would call it
Edgecrusher
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Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
The jazz is pretty damn bright... Try the A2pro instead
The jazz is pretty damn bright... Try the A2pro instead
Snake Aces
Singlecut Slut
Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
The Jazz still has the warmth you would expect from a humbucker. This is my Jazz set as both the bridge and the neck humbuckers are used in this clip:
The Jazz still has the warmth you would expect from a humbucker. This is my Jazz set as both the bridge and the neck humbuckers are used in this clip:
MetalManiac
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Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
From reading your inital post, I would advise you look closely at THIS ;
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/medium-output/jason_becker_pe/
I'm by no means an expert, but my path has led me down a similar SEARCH of tone as yours, and so I've been doing some reading up on the Duncan website.
The higher output Custom leans more towards the metal spectrum IMHO, and doesn't lend itself ideally towards what you are looking for , because its tigher and more gainey than for waht a lot of the stuff you play needs, although it is a workable option IMO. The Lower output Pearly Gates and/or AphII Slash, as well as the Whole Lotta Humbucker are also a very possible solutions, yet are geared to heavy Blues rock and Classic hard rock and old school metal, which could do what you want almost entirely, but wouldnt get you into the territory of 90's metal, and I think you might miss that more thank you think?
Yep, the perpetual Burn is a my candidate for our tone search. I actually think Duncan had the first idea for this evolutionary pickup and another company was was so impressed by the Perpetual Burn, that they decided to issue their own version with a guy by the name of Gilbert endorsing it, but I'm probably wrong.
From reading your inital post, I would advise you look closely at THIS ;
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/humbucker/medium-output/jason_becker_pe/
I'm by no means an expert, but my path has led me down a similar SEARCH of tone as yours, and so I've been doing some reading up on the Duncan website.
The higher output Custom leans more towards the metal spectrum IMHO, and doesn't lend itself ideally towards what you are looking for , because its tigher and more gainey than for waht a lot of the stuff you play needs, although it is a workable option IMO. The Lower output Pearly Gates and/or AphII Slash, as well as the Whole Lotta Humbucker are also a very possible solutions, yet are geared to heavy Blues rock and Classic hard rock and old school metal, which could do what you want almost entirely, but wouldnt get you into the territory of 90's metal, and I think you might miss that more thank you think?
Yep, the perpetual Burn is a my candidate for our tone search. I actually think Duncan had the first idea for this evolutionary pickup and another company was was so impressed by the Perpetual Burn, that they decided to issue their own version with a guy by the name of Gilbert endorsing it, but I'm probably wrong.
TRex
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Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
I guess with the tone rolled down it might be able to get a good bluesy sound.
Same here
That's what I was thinking, that or the 59'n
The JB is definitely warmer and less bright than the JN. The JN is great for leads, but I'm afraid it might not have the right character to the sound.
That pickup seems like going at the problem from the other way. It's primarily a metal pickup, but has some of the vintage tone left to do the others. I'll take a look at it, but that's my impression so far
I can't see your sig right now as I am on mobile
I guess with the tone rolled down it might be able to get a good bluesy sound.
Same here
That's what I was thinking, that or the 59'n
The JB is definitely warmer and less bright than the JN. The JN is great for leads, but I'm afraid it might not have the right character to the sound.
That pickup seems like going at the problem from the other way. It's primarily a metal pickup, but has some of the vintage tone left to do the others. I'll take a look at it, but that's my impression so far
MetalManiac
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Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
Thats a great observation..I hadn't thought of that.Probably then the Slash.
Thats a great observation..I hadn't thought of that.Probably then the Slash.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
No. Not warm or bluesy. As was suggested, A2P's are a great choice for what you want.
No. Not warm or bluesy. As was suggested, A2P's are a great choice for what you want.
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blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
He's asking for warm, you're saying: "Jazz are just what you want, only they're bright." Might there be a better choice for the OP, since he also said he does not want a bright neck PU?
He's asking for warm, you're saying: "Jazz are just what you want, only they're bright." Might there be a better choice for the OP, since he also said he does not want a bright neck PU?
TRex
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Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
Looks like I'll put the 59' custom hybrid and APH-1 neck on my list of things to buy for guitar.
Exactly what I am after
Looks like I'll put the 59' custom hybrid and APH-1 neck on my list of things to buy for guitar.
Yea, it sounds like a great pickup, but it seems to be a bit more of a metal pickup than I need.
Snake Aces
Singlecut Slut
Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
Uhh, I did not use the Jazz neck for any leads in that clip. All leads were done with the Jazz bridge. The chords were done with the Jazz neck.
Uhh, I did not use the Jazz neck for any leads in that clip. All leads were done with the Jazz bridge. The chords were done with the Jazz neck.
TRex
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Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
JB JN combo is sweet, but tge JN is a bit to cleanish without a bit of dailing in for most classic blues tones (thinking BB King)
I do plan on getting a hollow body that will be my blues and such guitar, but first I want this guitar done, but I might have to wait till im out of college till I have enough money.
if all else fails I'm sure I can ask for the pups for Christmas from my parents. [emoji41]
I wasn't refering to your clip, I was referring to other clips I have heard.
JB JN combo is sweet, but tge JN is a bit to cleanish without a bit of dailing in for most classic blues tones (thinking BB King)
I do plan on getting a hollow body that will be my blues and such guitar, but first I want this guitar done, but I might have to wait till im out of college till I have enough money.
if all else fails I'm sure I can ask for the pups for Christmas from my parents. [emoji41]
Big Flannel
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Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
I'm a fan of the regular old custom (or custom 8) in the bridge and a 59 in the neck for those tones.
I'm a fan of the regular old custom (or custom 8) in the bridge and a 59 in the neck for those tones.
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
59/Custom bridge
Pearly Gates neck
How Blueman hears the A2P as brighter than a PG, I don't know. One of us has broken ears….The A2P is fat and dark, full of bass and miss. Surprisingly tight for an A2 mag pup IMO. The PG has a similar top, but I describe the sweet smoothness as Icing on the cake. And A2P, in comparison, to me is like there is 2" of icing before you hit cake. The upper mid spike really lets the PG cut through in the neck. Not so much the A2P.
But - the Hybrid and either a 59, A2P, or PG will ALL work. Just depends on what you want as the main neck flavor: Classic, FAt or cut, respectively. And a Jazz would be fine too, but its a bright, even modern sound.
Anyway - the other factor here is that that Epiphone is a Les Paul "style" guitar. It may vary considerably from a real Les Paul, and also from the published specs.
I have said it before. When they run out of mahogany at the factory, they'll use chopped up tables from the lunchroom.
59/Custom bridge
Pearly Gates neck
How Blueman hears the A2P as brighter than a PG, I don't know. One of us has broken ears….The A2P is fat and dark, full of bass and miss. Surprisingly tight for an A2 mag pup IMO. The PG has a similar top, but I describe the sweet smoothness as Icing on the cake. And A2P, in comparison, to me is like there is 2" of icing before you hit cake. The upper mid spike really lets the PG cut through in the neck. Not so much the A2P.
But - the Hybrid and either a 59, A2P, or PG will ALL work. Just depends on what you want as the main neck flavor: Classic, FAt or cut, respectively. And a Jazz would be fine too, but its a bright, even modern sound.
Anyway - the other factor here is that that Epiphone is a Les Paul "style" guitar. It may vary considerably from a real Les Paul, and also from the published specs.
I have said it before. When they run out of mahogany at the factory, they'll use chopped up tables from the lunchroom.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
You've said before you like a big difference in EQ between bridge and neck (and many players do), which to me explains your fondness of PG's. Members have commented on how differently the two are voiced. I'm in the camp that prefers bridge and neck tones to be closer to each other (warm bridge and a neck with a little more treble), which is why I really like the way A2P's and Seth's are voiced.
Nothing 'wrong' with either preference, either PU set, or anyone's hearing. I'll bring a note from my ear doctor.
You've said before you like a big difference in EQ between bridge and neck (and many players do), which to me explains your fondness of PG's. Members have commented on how differently the two are voiced. I'm in the camp that prefers bridge and neck tones to be closer to each other (warm bridge and a neck with a little more treble), which is why I really like the way A2P's and Seth's are voiced.
Nothing 'wrong' with either preference, either PU set, or anyone's hearing. I'll bring a note from my ear doctor.
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
I have a mahogany bodied Iceman with a Jazz neck I would say it is warm and not overly bright. There is a chime when you hit a clean chord but it is not overly bright in any way. It is one of the best Duncan's I have ever played. I could definitely do a blues gig with that pickup and trust me I have done plenty of them. Bluesy comes from your fingers not a pickup.
I have a mahogany bodied Iceman with a Jazz neck I would say it is warm and not overly bright. There is a chime when you hit a clean chord but it is not overly bright in any way. It is one of the best Duncan's I have ever played. I could definitely do a blues gig with that pickup and trust me I have done plenty of them. Bluesy comes from your fingers not a pickup.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
Sure, you can play blues with a Jazz set, no problem. But that's not the point. The OP specifically wants a warm neck tone, and for that there are better choices than a JazzN. Doesn't sound like he's looking for 'chime.' An A2 PAF set seems a lot more like what he's looking for.
Sure, you can play blues with a Jazz set, no problem. But that's not the point. The OP specifically wants a warm neck tone, and for that there are better choices than a JazzN. Doesn't sound like he's looking for 'chime.' An A2 PAF set seems a lot more like what he's looking for.
Rex_Rocker
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Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
*EDIT* Nevermind.
*EDIT* Nevermind.
Falloffthebonetone
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Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
Dude, the Slash A2p set is literally a slightly hotter A2p set. Nothing really "metal" about it.
Dude, the Slash A2p set is literally a slightly hotter A2p set. Nothing really "metal" about it.
Snake Aces
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Re: Pickups for a Les Paul
+1 to this. It is really only very, very slightly hotter with a very small boost in mids.
+1 to this. It is really only very, very slightly hotter with a very small boost in mids.
