Pointy basses that aren't horrible
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El Dunco
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Re: Pointy basses that aren't horrible
Looks cool and sounds amazing.
Even better, get the Spector Rex!
Looks cool and sounds amazing.
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dg27
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Re: Pointy basses that aren't horrible
Thanks for that as well as to metalheads everywhere for being so reliable in terms of the overall look, including the subject of this thread, pointy guitars. Such dependability helps prevent unwelcome exposure.
Thanks for that as well as to metalheads everywhere for being so reliable in terms of the overall look, including the subject of this thread, pointy guitars. Such dependability helps prevent unwelcome exposure.
Demanic
PenultimateTone Member
Re: Pointy basses that aren't horrible
Well, some metalheads play very conventional looking instruments too.
But really, I don't think that you will ever inadvertently wander into a metalzone, so to speak.
Your fail-safes would kick in and steer you away before you found yourself starting to enjoy it.
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Well, some metalheads play very conventional looking instruments too.
But really, I don't think that you will ever inadvertently wander into a metalzone, so to speak.
Your fail-safes would kick in and steer you away before you found yourself starting to enjoy it.
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DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
Re: Pointy basses that aren't horrible
I once saw a guy in a C&W/Southern Rock band playing a Pepto-Bismol Pink Jackson Rhoads. It was a righty, he was a lefty.
Pointy geetars ain't just for moshing.
Scott Ian used a Custom Jackson that looked like an LP Jr for a decade or more. Decidedly not pointy.
And Metal isn't an STD, though if you did wind up in the sack with a Metal chick (and survived) there's a 50/50 chance of "turning".
At its core, Metal isn't all that different from most other genres: Sinatra sang about life, love, Lady Luck, and being your own man. Jazz does the same thing. C&W does the same thing. HipHop and Reggae do as well, though they do acknowledge political issues directly.
The "problem" with Metal started when the Punks got into it and brought with them their "violence for the sake of violence", nonsensical screaming at the top of their lungs, and speed for speed's sake. Then a few of the more technically minded and self-absorbed turned it into an Olympic event.
Still others turned it into a Machismo competition.
Let's not even discuss the Clowns with the growling and corpsepaint.
However, I've yet to hear someone like Sinatra, George Jones, or Sir Mix-A-Lot take on classic literature like the Charge of the Light Brigade, Icarus and Daedalus, the Norse invasion of Saxony, classic Hammer films, post-apocalyptic life, Science Fiction in general, or even modern works like The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Runner, much less modern politics, the issues of medical incompetence and malpractice, the attempted political revolution in China's Tiananmen Square, the collapse of the American Farm, or the threat of Nuclear War. Even RUSH covered similar topics, and they're not considered "Metal" by most people.
The "face" of Metal is noise and violence. The core of Metal is musicianship and technical ability that is reminiscent of Classical, coming from people who were largely self-taught, and that's more the rule than the exception. While most of the top-ranked Jazz musicians have a College degree in music on their wall, a larger percentage of Metal musicians have the albums they learned from on theirs. While the typical Metalhead can't read sheet music, many can create a Classically-themed guitar solo on the fly that is equal in technicality and compositional form to the works of Beethoven, Chopin, or Mozart, and again, they learned it from listening, not by being told.
Few Metal players move on to Jazz, but those that do, and do so via traditional School Of Music (Berkely, etc) tend to fare better than those without a background in a similarly technical genre. Andy Timmons and Alex Skolnick are two names that come to mind. Both were considered Metal shred kings in their day, and later made their mark in the Jazz/Fusion world.
Most Metal players aren't afraid to embrace different genres, but I still find the same old prejudices in nearly every other genre, even against non-Metal. C&W is too simplistic for a Jazz bassist. Jazz is too busy for a C&W player. Blues doesn't venture out of its little box. None of them do. How long did it take Fusion to get any respect from both Jazz and Rock circles? Even Prog rockers - who share more with Fusion than any other genre - were against it. "If you're going to play Jazz, play Jazz" they said.
Meanwhile, Metal has more branches than a California Redwood.
It's truly the Tree of Life.
I once saw a guy in a C&W/Southern Rock band playing a Pepto-Bismol Pink Jackson Rhoads. It was a righty, he was a lefty.
Pointy geetars ain't just for moshing.
Scott Ian used a Custom Jackson that looked like an LP Jr for a decade or more. Decidedly not pointy.
And Metal isn't an STD, though if you did wind up in the sack with a Metal chick (and survived) there's a 50/50 chance of "turning".
At its core, Metal isn't all that different from most other genres: Sinatra sang about life, love, Lady Luck, and being your own man. Jazz does the same thing. C&W does the same thing. HipHop and Reggae do as well, though they do acknowledge political issues directly.
The "problem" with Metal started when the Punks got into it and brought with them their "violence for the sake of violence", nonsensical screaming at the top of their lungs, and speed for speed's sake. Then a few of the more technically minded and self-absorbed turned it into an Olympic event.
Still others turned it into a Machismo competition.
Let's not even discuss the Clowns with the growling and corpsepaint.
However, I've yet to hear someone like Sinatra, George Jones, or Sir Mix-A-Lot take on classic literature like the Charge of the Light Brigade, Icarus and Daedalus, the Norse invasion of Saxony, classic Hammer films, post-apocalyptic life, Science Fiction in general, or even modern works like The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Runner, much less modern politics, the issues of medical incompetence and malpractice, the attempted political revolution in China's Tiananmen Square, the collapse of the American Farm, or the threat of Nuclear War. Even RUSH covered similar topics, and they're not considered "Metal" by most people.
The "face" of Metal is noise and violence. The core of Metal is musicianship and technical ability that is reminiscent of Classical, coming from people who were largely self-taught, and that's more the rule than the exception. While most of the top-ranked Jazz musicians have a College degree in music on their wall, a larger percentage of Metal musicians have the albums they learned from on theirs. While the typical Metalhead can't read sheet music, many can create a Classically-themed guitar solo on the fly that is equal in technicality and compositional form to the works of Beethoven, Chopin, or Mozart, and again, they learned it from listening, not by being told.
Few Metal players move on to Jazz, but those that do, and do so via traditional School Of Music (Berkely, etc) tend to fare better than those without a background in a similarly technical genre. Andy Timmons and Alex Skolnick are two names that come to mind. Both were considered Metal shred kings in their day, and later made their mark in the Jazz/Fusion world.
Most Metal players aren't afraid to embrace different genres, but I still find the same old prejudices in nearly every other genre, even against non-Metal. C&W is too simplistic for a Jazz bassist. Jazz is too busy for a C&W player. Blues doesn't venture out of its little box. None of them do. How long did it take Fusion to get any respect from both Jazz and Rock circles? Even Prog rockers - who share more with Fusion than any other genre - were against it. "If you're going to play Jazz, play Jazz" they said.
Meanwhile, Metal has more branches than a California Redwood.
It's truly the Tree of Life.
El Dunco
Sock Supplier to RHCP
Re: Pointy basses that aren't horrible
That's why I recommended ESP. When I was a luthier in a music shop, the ESP basses seemed to have decent electronics on them and sounded really good. I like my BC Rich guitar but even their mid level basses always sounded horrible in my opinion.
King IzzO)))
Ultimate Kitten Puncher
Re: Pointy basses that aren't horrible
That spector Rex looks rad, but I can't really justify that. I'm looking for a decent platform for modding.
That spector Rex looks rad, but I can't really justify that. I'm looking for a decent platform for modding.
dg27
New member
Re: Pointy basses that aren't horrible
I tend to disagree but really don't care.
Playing both the violence, death and destruction card (metal's moneymaker) and then trying (and failing) to demonstrate that headbangers are a really a global village of classically trained, sensitive artistes is ludicrous. Those that would know Chopin from a chopstick are an extreme minority.
Tree of life? This was a joke, right? I will assume so and leave it at that.
The reason there are so many sub-genres has more to do with society's need to put a label on everything than any quantifiable distinctions between those various flavors. It's part of the age of specialization in which we live.
For some guy in the hinterlands it's much easier to swallow if he thinks of himself as being part of the "best neoclassical Christan thrash band in town" than being just one of many "rock" bands in town.
I have nothing against any particular genre except when advocates of a genre try and pretend it's something that it's not.
It is what it is. I ignore it because it's irrelevant in my world.
I tend to disagree but really don't care.
Playing both the violence, death and destruction card (metal's moneymaker) and then trying (and failing) to demonstrate that headbangers are a really a global village of classically trained, sensitive artistes is ludicrous. Those that would know Chopin from a chopstick are an extreme minority.
Tree of life? This was a joke, right? I will assume so and leave it at that.
The reason there are so many sub-genres has more to do with society's need to put a label on everything than any quantifiable distinctions between those various flavors. It's part of the age of specialization in which we live.
For some guy in the hinterlands it's much easier to swallow if he thinks of himself as being part of the "best neoclassical Christan thrash band in town" than being just one of many "rock" bands in town.
I have nothing against any particular genre except when advocates of a genre try and pretend it's something that it's not.
It is what it is. I ignore it because it's irrelevant in my world.
DrNewcenstein
He Did the Monster Mash
Re: Pointy basses that aren't horrible
Clearly you haven't watched Metal Evolution:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...MBDUWZPu3-aKxlx0g&sig2=WtLqDS9czMbRzdfnGp_o5Q
and since by your own admission it's "not your bag, baby", you don't understand just how stark and absolute the core differences between the sub-genres are. You will be hard-pressed to find a large number of people who listen to Glam Metal also listening to Death Metal, and you won't find many people who listen to Speed Metal also spinning Stoner Metal.
It goes without saying that those who prefer Satanic Metal won't even consider Christian Metal, and vice versa.
And then there's Christian Death Gangsta Rap Metal, which I think maybe 5 people in total listen to.
Clearly you haven't watched Metal Evolution:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...MBDUWZPu3-aKxlx0g&sig2=WtLqDS9czMbRzdfnGp_o5Q
and since by your own admission it's "not your bag, baby", you don't understand just how stark and absolute the core differences between the sub-genres are. You will be hard-pressed to find a large number of people who listen to Glam Metal also listening to Death Metal, and you won't find many people who listen to Speed Metal also spinning Stoner Metal.
It goes without saying that those who prefer Satanic Metal won't even consider Christian Metal, and vice versa.
And then there's Christian Death Gangsta Rap Metal, which I think maybe 5 people in total listen to.
dg27
New member
Re: Pointy basses that aren't horrible
Correct.
I would never use such an Austin Powersesque phrase. But I do find it all very boring and derivative. To each his own.
These may well be valid points, but if you re-read the number sub-genres you named objectively, maybe you'll realize how silly it all is.
Like I said, to each his own. But at least we got a bass thread to crack two pages. HiFi Rebel will be happy.
But I still think pointy guitars are an absurd mutation.
I'm done here.
Correct.
I would never use such an Austin Powersesque phrase. But I do find it all very boring and derivative. To each his own.
These may well be valid points, but if you re-read the number sub-genres you named objectively, maybe you'll realize how silly it all is.
Like I said, to each his own. But at least we got a bass thread to crack two pages. HiFi Rebel will be happy.
But I still think pointy guitars are an absurd mutation.
I'm done here.
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HiFiRebel
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Re: Pointy basses that aren't horrible
I forgot about the EB-1 bass! That one has two points. And yes, I am happy.
I forgot about the EB-1 bass! That one has two points. And yes, I am happy.
dg27
New member
Re: Pointy basses that aren't horrible
The EB-1 does not have two points. It is shaped like a violin and is the bass on which the Hofner was modeled. I think you meant the EB-3 (which is SG-like).
My '69 EB-1:
The EB-1 does not have two points. It is shaped like a violin and is the bass on which the Hofner was modeled. I think you meant the EB-3 (which is SG-like).
My '69 EB-1:
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HiFiRebel
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Re: Pointy basses that aren't horrible
This is why I play P Basses. Can't remember anything anymore.
I meant the EB-3 apparently.
This is why I play P Basses. Can't remember anything anymore.
I meant the EB-3 apparently.