Pointy basses that aren't horrible

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Demanic said:
Exactly. Because that's the sort of music that is supposed to piss you off at the least, and maybe even cause physical pain at the best.
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We have obviously have very different ideas about the role of music and the purpose it should serve. Inspiring one to look at the world differently, questions ideas, and yes--rebel against what we believe is wrong is one thing. But saying that the purpose is to piss people off and inflict possible pain is childish. Just like pointy guitars.
 
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Well, I never said that it was the point of all music. But certainly the type of music that is played on pointy instruments. I would add that it's not so much childish as adolescent. And for some, cathartic. Or maybe just sadistic. So be it.

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Thrash, it's pretty much like saying about as much sh17 as you want, all the shizz you hate and or get mad at, and make people mad (either by understanding you and getting mad at the same thing you get mad or getting mad at you for criticising whatever you just criticized) pointy instruments are a big part of it

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angelripper with a neat small bodied explorer bass
 
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Demanic said:
Well, I never said that it was the point of all music. But certainly the type of music that is played on pointy instruments. I would add that it's not so much childish as adolescent. And for some, cathartic. Or maybe just sadistic. So be it.
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OK--adolescent is a better word.

And if it's sadistic, I'd say that the point isn't being made with those to whom the sadism is directed: They simply ignore it. In their world that music is insignificant: it doesn't matter enough for an outsider to care.

EDX said:
Thrash, it's pretty much like saying about as much sh17 as you want, all the shizz you hate and or get mad at, and make people mad (either by understanding you and getting mad at the same thing you get mad or getting mad at you for criticising whatever you just criticized)
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Trying to follow this, but again, the result is the same: It's unsuccessful in terms of getting any message across to anyone who isn't part of the "choir" (as in preaching to the choir). People not into it generally don't get "mad" regarding this sort of thing because they don't hear it: They'd never bother. If the mission is to make some statement or point, it fails (miserably).

EDX said:
pointy instruments are a big part of it
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Exactly. They're a great stop sign.

So be it.
 
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Yes, but those of us who do hear it, because we go out of our way to do so, do feel the pain. I've spent hours to days to years with ringing in my ears from various metal shows. Not to mention injuries incurred in the pit. But then, I asked for it.

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I dunno man, explorers and warriors are far more comfy to me than any LP. Strats, super and otherwise are OK, teles too, but I just find them uninspiring. Something about that big tail end just feels right to me.

Most of the pointy basses I've messed with are typically low end junk. BC rich stuff comes to mind. Horrible. I played around with an early 80's epiphone explorer that had the batwing headstock and what looked (and sounded like) regular guitar humbuckers in it. I liked that one, but the dude wanted way too much for it.

Has anyone played a newer explorer bass?
 
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Cronos with an Ibanez Destroyer. I believe Mike D'Antonio from Killswitch Engage also uses a Destroyer bass
 
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Demanic said:
Yes, but those of us who do hear it, because we go out of our way to do so, do feel the pain. I've spent hours to days to years with ringing in my ears from various metal shows. Not to mention injuries incurred in the pit. But then, I asked for it.
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So then this isn't sadism at all: It's masochism.
 
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The ESP and higher end LTD basses with a pointy design sound great.
 
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dg27 said:
Trying to follow this, but again, the result is the same: It's unsuccessful in terms of getting any message across to anyone who isn't part of the "choir" (as in preaching to the choir). People not into it generally don't get "mad" regarding this sort of thing because they don't hear it: They'd never bother. If the mission is to make some statement or point, it fails (miserably).
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Unlike most other genres, Metal isn't typically out to win friends and influence people; it is, in fact, mostly about "preaching to the choir". Someone sings a song about a subject that affects or has affected them personally, and those who have a similar experience can relate. Those who have either not had said similar experience, or who have but moved beyond it through other means, won't feel the connection, because it would seem more like wallowing in the experience rather than moving beyond it.

However, I have never had the urge to join, or saw the logic behind, a mosh pit. I've heard various attempts to justify it - blowing off steam, music makes me want to move, etc etc - but I just don't see it. Then again, I'm never more than 3 seconds away from going Clockwork Orange, so maybe that has something to do with not seeing the "fun" in violence.


Blame Gibson R&D for the "pointy" love, starting with the V and Explorer in the 50s.

While tame by today's standards, they were radical BITD. Even the SG was considered "pointy" when it came out.

Jerry Garcia's custom SG-looking thing is sometimes referenced in a "pointy guitars you like" thread every once in a while because of the horns.
 
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DrNewcenstein said:
Unlike most other genres, Metal isn't typically out to win friends and influence people; it is, in fact, mostly about "preaching to the choir".
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This is why I believe its effectiveness getting through to non-metalheads would tend to be limited. It's a closed party, seemingly by design.

DrNewcenstein said:
Someone sings a song about a subject that affects or has affected them personally, and those who have a similar experience can relate. Those who have either not had said similar experience, or who have but moved beyond it through other means, won't feel the connection, because it would seem more like wallowing in the experience rather than moving beyond it.
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This can be said about any genre.
 
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Metal is in your blood. It doesn't reach out to you, you find your way to it.

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I don't mean to change the subject, but a thread in the bass forum got past one page!
 
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I think you're right. I had very specific inoculations during my formative years.
 
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So did I. Thankfully, my mutant healing factor managed to reverse the damage.

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Thankfully?

I don't think so. I can live without pain and the S&M mosh pit crowd.
 
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