STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: POLL: "Perfect' or "Complete" guitar
The strat is in the lead....As I expected! LOL
The strat is in the lead....As I expected! LOL
POLL: "Perfect' or "Complete" guitar
- Thread starter Frantic_Rock
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Frantic_Rock
FragleRockologist
Re: POLL: "Perfect' or "Complete" guitar
I want to come up with a new guitar design that is kind of like a strat, but even more modular. So you can take it completely apart, pop it in a suitcase and go on a plane... aluminum neck....
I want to come up with a new guitar design that is kind of like a strat, but even more modular. So you can take it completely apart, pop it in a suitcase and go on a plane... aluminum neck....
Re: POLL: "Perfect' or "Complete" guitar
I dont really think theres one perfect, end all be all guitar. Peoples tastes change over time as well so one gat you love right now you may not like in a few years. Thats what I would have said if I was in 1953. From '54 onwards I would just say Stratocaster. With a warmer bridge pu.
Scratch everything I just wrote. My end all be all is a Martin styled sitka/rosewood OM. With a 11/16 nut.
I dont really think theres one perfect, end all be all guitar. Peoples tastes change over time as well so one gat you love right now you may not like in a few years. Thats what I would have said if I was in 1953. From '54 onwards I would just say Stratocaster. With a warmer bridge pu.
Scratch everything I just wrote. My end all be all is a Martin styled sitka/rosewood OM. With a 11/16 nut.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: POLL: "Perfect' or "Complete" guitar
Well then maybe its because Im "younger" because four years ago I loved uber thin neck shredsticks, piled gain on top of gain, played as fast as I could and stuck as many notes as I could into a bar. Ocassionaly I do relapse but overall Im pretty much the opposite nowadays. Im pretty sure if my 13 year old version met me hed try to beat some sense into me and say Im a John Mayer/Damien Rice wannabe sensitive fag sell out who lost his integrity to get some.
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Well then maybe its because Im "younger" because four years ago I loved uber thin neck shredsticks, piled gain on top of gain, played as fast as I could and stuck as many notes as I could into a bar. Ocassionaly I do relapse but overall Im pretty much the opposite nowadays. Im pretty sure if my 13 year old version met me hed try to beat some sense into me and say Im a John Mayer/Damien Rice wannabe sensitive fag sell out who lost his integrity to get some.
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blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: POLL: "Perfect' or "Complete" guitar
Less than 10% of the votes for LP's? This is too bizarre.
Less than 10% of the votes for LP's? This is too bizarre.
ratherdashing
Kablamminator
Re: POLL: "Perfect' or "Complete" guitar
Yeah, I agree ... I didn't think the general forum populace was that smart.
The Strat being in the lead is no surprise whatsoever. A good Strat with the right pickups can get you into Tele and LP territory, plus cover a whole lot of other delicious tones. Conversely I have never heard an LP that could cop a Strat tone. The wham bar helps the versatility too.
I voted for the Warmoth option, because that seems to me to be the easiest way to get the ideal guitar. Mine would probably be some sort of Strat, but it would not be anything like stock.
Yeah, I agree ... I didn't think the general forum populace was that smart.
The Strat being in the lead is no surprise whatsoever. A good Strat with the right pickups can get you into Tele and LP territory, plus cover a whole lot of other delicious tones. Conversely I have never heard an LP that could cop a Strat tone. The wham bar helps the versatility too.
I voted for the Warmoth option, because that seems to me to be the easiest way to get the ideal guitar. Mine would probably be some sort of Strat, but it would not be anything like stock.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: POLL: "Perfect' or "Complete" guitar
Bingo Matt! I can play an entire gig with a strat.....I can't do Sultans Of Swing or most of the SRV stuff on anything other than a strat...I mean I can physically play the songs,but they don't cop the twang factor that a strat does....And yes,you need the right combination of guitar,pickups,and amp...Helps to have some hands in the equation also... ;o)
I love playing my SG and the Love Rock LP,but mainly I play a strat loaded with Antiquities....
Bingo Matt! I can play an entire gig with a strat.....I can't do Sultans Of Swing or most of the SRV stuff on anything other than a strat...I mean I can physically play the songs,but they don't cop the twang factor that a strat does....And yes,you need the right combination of guitar,pickups,and amp...Helps to have some hands in the equation also... ;o)
I love playing my SG and the Love Rock LP,but mainly I play a strat loaded with Antiquities....
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: POLL: "Perfect' or "Complete" guitar
Not long ago,I'd say the LP was king....These days most of what I see folks playing on though,is a strat....Especially the "Fender" strat...
I'm not dogging the LP or any of the humbucking guitar users....I've been playing alot of years and I Know what has worked for me and the bands I've been in.
Not long ago,I'd say the LP was king....These days most of what I see folks playing on though,is a strat....Especially the "Fender" strat...
I'm not dogging the LP or any of the humbucking guitar users....I've been playing alot of years and I Know what has worked for me and the bands I've been in.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: POLL: "Perfect' or "Complete" guitar
Oh yeah sorry if I didnt make myself clear haha I meant young in the sense that I really havent played for that long haha.
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Oh yeah sorry if I didnt make myself clear haha I meant young in the sense that I really havent played for that long haha.
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JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: POLL: "Perfect' or "Complete" guitar
As much as I love superstrats, Strats, and LPs, I'd dump them all for a PRS in a second.
As much as I love superstrats, Strats, and LPs, I'd dump them all for a PRS in a second.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: POLL: "Perfect' or "Complete" guitar
A Strat getting into "LP territory" is due to Fender using HB's that Gison invented, but LP's don't use skinny Fender single coils, so this isn't a level playing field. Fender tried to sound like Gibson; Gibson did not want to sound like Fender. You saw the end result, not the intention.
Not "copping a Strat tone" I see as one of the of the LP's virtues. When I listen to the radio or CD, and I can tell a guitarist is playing a Strat by the tone, to my ears, something's wrong. That thin aluminum-sounding clunk. Guys like Hendrix, Trower, Gallagher, Blackmore, & Healey knew how to get great tones with their Strats, second to none. Unfortunately the bulk of Strat players don't, and wind up sounding tinny. Treble can be overdone.
A Strat getting into "LP territory" is due to Fender using HB's that Gison invented, but LP's don't use skinny Fender single coils, so this isn't a level playing field. Fender tried to sound like Gibson; Gibson did not want to sound like Fender. You saw the end result, not the intention.
Not "copping a Strat tone" I see as one of the of the LP's virtues. When I listen to the radio or CD, and I can tell a guitarist is playing a Strat by the tone, to my ears, something's wrong. That thin aluminum-sounding clunk. Guys like Hendrix, Trower, Gallagher, Blackmore, & Healey knew how to get great tones with their Strats, second to none. Unfortunately the bulk of Strat players don't, and wind up sounding tinny. Treble can be overdone.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: POLL: "Perfect' or "Complete" guitar
Very valid points and that's why a guy like myself,owns both the humbucker "and" the single coil instruments...I found it was the only way to have my cake and eat it too....In defense of the Gibson LP/Humbucker though,I always loved Clapton's tones with the Bluesbreakers and then Cream,better than most of the strat tones that followed later...
I'm not really sold on the tinny strat tone issue,but I can tell you that from years and years of playing,that the strat is my most versatile guitar to play for our music styles...
With the right gear a person can get great tone from any decent made instrument...
Very valid points and that's why a guy like myself,owns both the humbucker "and" the single coil instruments...I found it was the only way to have my cake and eat it too....In defense of the Gibson LP/Humbucker though,I always loved Clapton's tones with the Bluesbreakers and then Cream,better than most of the strat tones that followed later...
I'm not really sold on the tinny strat tone issue,but I can tell you that from years and years of playing,that the strat is my most versatile guitar to play for our music styles...
With the right gear a person can get great tone from any decent made instrument...
drunkinminer
New member
Re: POLL: "Perfect' or "Complete" guitar
And the tele and Strat are ahead.
Not bad for a "beginner model" if I do say so.
And the tele and Strat are ahead.
Not bad for a "beginner model" if I do say so.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: POLL: "Perfect' or "Complete" guitar
In the right hands, Strats can sound wonderful. Unfortunately most Strat owners don't understand how to get a good tone, that it takes a little extra effort. You sound like one of the minority, one of the guys that know what they're doing. I wish more players did. A couple of Leo's blunders, no tone pot on the bridge and the bridge PU slanted the wrong way, haven't helped matters any. So many guys buy a Strat "because everyone else has one" and then subject audiences to an ear-piercing onslaught of treble. And maybe Strats just are more versatile than Gibsons, but you'd never know it listening to the average knucklehead in the local bar (and even some on CD). Strats aren't something you can put into the hands of millions and expect the majority to come up with something that sounds nice. Some guys will figure it out, but most will have the neighborhood dogs howling.
In the right hands, Strats can sound wonderful. Unfortunately most Strat owners don't understand how to get a good tone, that it takes a little extra effort. You sound like one of the minority, one of the guys that know what they're doing. I wish more players did. A couple of Leo's blunders, no tone pot on the bridge and the bridge PU slanted the wrong way, haven't helped matters any. So many guys buy a Strat "because everyone else has one" and then subject audiences to an ear-piercing onslaught of treble. And maybe Strats just are more versatile than Gibsons, but you'd never know it listening to the average knucklehead in the local bar (and even some on CD). Strats aren't something you can put into the hands of millions and expect the majority to come up with something that sounds nice. Some guys will figure it out, but most will have the neighborhood dogs howling.
