Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

[ErikH]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

Erik,
Can you run the combo as a head if you wanted too? Can you disconnect the amps speaker? If so maybe this would be the way I'd go. I've been looking for a nice backup or alternative amp. A combo would work graeat sometimes and other times I'd just use my 2x12.

Yep, sure can. There is an external speaker out (8 ohms) on the AD50VT combo. When you plug a speaker cable in there, it disconnects the internal speaker. I've only hooked it up to my 4x12 a couple times. I like the speaker it came with. The sucker throws, I'll tell you that.

Point well taken.

:9:

 

[innerdreamrecords.co]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

That's also a very big selling point with the Blue series. If they actually had all that in print, they'd probably lose sales of those amps to the BBQ grill models. Did you run both through the same speakers? That makes a big difference.

I ran the 100w BBQ and a 60w Blue through the same 4x12 and to my ears the Blue is more 3 demensional and closer to an all valve amp. The BBQ sounds really good for a modeler but is a little flat sounding side by side. I have read enough about them both and I'd bet there is more under the hood in the Blue series. Your point is taken though on the sales factor.

 

[ErikH]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

Just got an email back from Korg USA about the models in the Chrome being the same as those same models in the Blue.

"While some models are omitted on the AD##VT "chrome" amps, yes the models are the same in the "chrome" and blue cloth Valvetronix amps."

Just wanted to put that to rest.

I wonder of the stompbox model and cab model banks are having an effect on that 3D sound in the Blues. The Chromes don't have any of that.

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

I will say I like the power selector on the BBQ series head better, as it's a continuous knob that allows you to go down to 0.1 watts and up to 100 watts.

 

[daemon barbeque]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

Scott i played the ad50 with 8 ohm V30 cab!And it was perfect.Than i searched the Eminence equivalent fot the V30 tone.Mike recommended me the Eminence Governor ,and man that thing ripps!It's much louder than the celestion wich was installed ,The Marshall tones are really usable now.My bandmate Julian plays a Modded JCM900.When i use the Marshal 800 model ,the sounds are allmost similar.Not better or worst ,just a little bit different.l
And the Ac30 tone is sooooo heavy and crunchy now.Big defference.
You own a head so it's not a problem for you.But i hate to plug my Combo to a 4x12 all the time.the new Eminence ripps.I don't know how it's going to sound in some months.
Great Purchase dude ,you will love it more and more.As i said ,try the rotary speaker and adjust it to a low speed.hit the Boutique OD ,and see what happens!Magic!!!

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

Just got an email back from Korg USA about the models in the Chrome being the same as those same models in the Blue.

"While some models are omitted on the AD##VT "chrome" amps, yes the models are the same in the "chrome" and blue cloth Valvetronix amps."

Just wanted to put that to rest.

I wonder of the stompbox model and cab model banks are having an effect on that 3D sound in the Blues. The Chromes don't have any of that.

That makes me feel better.

 

[innerdreamrecords.co]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

Just got an email back from Korg USA about the models in the Chrome being the same as those same models in the Blue.

"While some models are omitted on the AD##VT "chrome" amps, yes the models are the same in the "chrome" and blue cloth Valvetronix amps."

Just wanted to put that to rest.

I wonder of the stompbox model and cab model banks are having an effect on that 3D sound in the Blues. The Chromes don't have any of that.

With all due respect you're not asking the right question. Ask them if the "hardware" the circuit's etc. and the modeling technology is different e.g. the Korg technology.

 

[ErikH]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

With all due respect you're not asking the right question. Ask them if the "hardware" the circuit's etc. and the modeling technology is different e.g. the Korg technology.

Gotcha, I see what you mean. I just shot the question off.

We could also say that once the drummer kicks in, nobody will know the difference. :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

 

[innerdreamrecords.co]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

Gotcha, I see what you mean. I just shot the question off.

We could also say that once the drummer kicks in, nobody will know the difference. :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

Yes, because he'll be out of time and people we'll be hearing that!

I suspect they don't want to let out what is really going on in those amps with out pressing them on it, I wonder if you'll get a real answer?

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

I just sent Korg a follow-up to Erik's email, asking more explicitly if the modeling technology is the same between the cloth and the BBQ.

- Keith

 

[ErikH]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

Yes, because he'll be out of time and people we'll be hearing that!

Bwahahaha....nice. :laughing:

I suspect they don't want to let out what is really going on in those amps with out pressing them on it, I wonder if you'll get a real answer?

Well, here's what they said.

"The digital modeling and analog Valve Reactor circuit is the same."

Same guy answered that responded to me the first time. I've talked with him before too. Very knowledgable.

Looks like Keith emailed them too because he replied to Keith's question (basically the same as mine) and cc'd me. :laughing:

 

[innerdreamrecords.co]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

Bwahahaha....nice. :laughing:

I suspect they don't want to let out what is really going on in those amps with out pressing them on it, I wonder if you'll get a real answer?

Thanks for doing that, that is interesting too. Maybe you're right about the extra bells on the Blue series making it more dimensional?

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

Ha! Yeah, he copied you on the response. I didn't even notice that.

 

[ErikH]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

Ha! Yeah, he copied you on the response. I didn't even notice that.

Now I can torture you with NY Yankee stuff. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

Now I can torture you with NY Yankee stuff. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

I mean this in the nicest possible way: You rat-bastard!

 

[ErikH]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

I mean this in the nicest possible way: You rat-bastard!

:chairfall

 

[BluesGuyJ]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

So I just called up the local GC and they have an AD120VT combo for $800 and I think an AD60VT combo for cheaper. I am going to bring in my Mesa Mark III blue stripe, do youthink I can get a straight up trade for the Vox? I've done so much reading and listening to clips of the Vox that I know its what I am looking for. That power selector is going to be a nice welcome seeing as how I live in a dorm and I'm an RA so I have to "model" good behavior and not blast away my Mark III. Do you guys think that replacing the speakers in the combo with vintage C30s will do well or should I hold off and get a cab with C30s to improve the tone of the Marshall models and what not?

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

Man this thing smokes! TheOdie was less than enthused when he heard about it. He thought "oh great! Another crappy amp to check out for Scott..". After the first few chords played through the presets, he was hooked. He dialed and tweaked on it like a madman getting all the sounds to be just so. I left TheOdie's place even more impressed with it than before. He has it now as a matter of fact as he would probably enjoy messing with it and I don't need to beat it up further in the truck while I travel for work. It loves Vintage 30 speakers. It really loved TheOdie's 4x12 loaded with original V30's specifically. My port city had good bass, but no punch or focus compared to the 4x12. Still sounded good, but it does lose punch being a ported 2x12. There is no substitute for a 4x12. You can get close, but you still won't be there. There is no replacement for displacement so to speak.

This thing has really good marshall clone tones that impress both myself and Theodie. The clean tones were excellent. The mesa clone tone was also very very good. Nothing was perfect but all were close enough to be fun and most of all USEFUL. No fluff on this amp. Everything sounds really good and could be useful to a performing musician. The tone is excellent and the feel can fool even the most hardened tube-head. Most folks wouldn't know you weren't playing an all tube head without seeing it for themselves.

Here's the cool part. I spent a total of $480 for the head out the door with the 3 year GC extended warranty. Turns out that GC is closing out the heads to make room. It's a great time to get a fantastic head for the exact same price as the Chinese made BBQ grill head.

Gearjoneser had his first and then I bought the VHT 120 Head shortly after it came out and the matching Vox AD 2x12 cab.....I Loaded my cab with V30s also and it's great...This is my fulltime gigging setup also!

 

[iekobrid]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

It's basically your POD with a nice power section attached.

Ooh, an opportunity to paste semi-relevant content from a year old post! :dance:

Title: PODxt into an AD120VTH : I finally tried it

The good news is that changing the Vox's preamp model ~does~ affect its power amp stage, and thus the sound of the Line 6 plugged directly into the fx return. Switching from the AC15 model to the 'Black 2x12' model to the 'Tweed 1x12' really did make significant changes in how the POD's signal was amplified.

The bad news is that most of the Vox's amp settings had more or less identical sounding power amp modelling. From 'UK Blues' right around the dial to 'UK Modern' its 4xEL34 after 4xEL34 after 4xEL34, and even some of the 4xEL84 and 4x6L6 models seemed to have little or no distinct sonic identity. Also, when I switched from a high Valve Reactor output setting on the Vox to a lower one and turned the master up to get roughly the same volume (in theory, simulating cranking up a lower wattage tube amp), the tone just got fuzzier and unusable.

I can't say I was happy with the way the POD sounded through any of the Vox power amp models or output settings, but I think this is attributable to the fact that the PODxt is already modelling a power amp stage, even with cabinet modelling turned off, so I was listening to a modeller modelling the sound of a model through a model of a... you get the idea. All the 'artificiality' people dislike about digital modellers, but squared.

I think there may still be merit to the idea of using the Vox's power amp section by itself, though -- just not to drive another modelling device. I'd like to try out what the Vox PA does with a tube preamp or a decent od/disto pedal.


Tangent --

Of all the heads/combinations I tried this Saturday, here's how they ranked:


* semi-disabled VHT Hundred CLX into a Genz Benz 1x12

* Peavey XXX into the GB

* PODxt into a beat up TubeWorks rack power amp into the GB

* PODxt into the XXX's fx return into the GB

* Vox AD120VTH into a no-name 2x12 and a no-name 4x12

* PODxt into the Vox's fx return into the no-name cabs

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: Purchased Vox AD120VTH Head plus port city cab.

I've got (and love) the 120VTH as well. If you've got a couple of cabs laying around spread the speakers out and run it in stereo. The only complaint I really have with the amp is the lack of a solid low end when run through 2x12s. Other than that it's a blast to play through.

No low end problems in my case using either the matching AD 2x12 cab loaded with V30s or my Marshall Vintage 30 4x12 cab...Really benefits from the closed back cab!