Question for Duncan the company

[darthphineas]

Re: Question for Duncan the company

Marketing campaign? A magazine asked for some items to test, and most likely send back. Not at all the same thing.


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[DarkMatter]

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What exactly is the problem here? I'm sure this is not the first time SD or any company has declined to take part is such a comparison test, even if they have a relevant product.

And why would anyone think that Mr Duncan, in his only forum post, would come on here and lie?

 

[Securb]

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Marketing campaign? A magazine asked for some items to test, and most likely send back. Not at all the same thing.


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That is where you are wrong neither of us know the level of participation that was involved. Social Media support, sponsorships, cross-site promotions - and as Derek said deciding on which pickup would represent SD. There is extra work involved it is not as simple as putting a pickup in a box and hoping for the best. If that is the case the promo or event really isn't worth doing. Throwing inventory to the wind (no they do not get the pickups back) and hoping for the best is not a sound business decision or smart marketing. The bottomline is the question was asked and answered.

 

[uOpt]

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Don't be this guy

Probably in Massachusetts.

That would mean there are opening hours saying they are open right now posted next to the guy, while the door is closed.

 

[Agileguy_101]

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Probably in Massachusetts.

That would mean there are opening hours saying they are open right now posted next to the guy, while the door is closed.

IIRC The guy said he was trying to get into a Canadian mall.

 

[Evan Skopp]

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The disrespectful language to other members is going to have to end. Now. Please.

 

[darthphineas]

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That is where you are wrong neither of us know the level of participation that was involved. Social Media support, sponsorships, cross-site promotions - and as Derek said deciding on which pickup would represent SD. There is extra work involved it is not as simple as putting a pickup in a box and hoping for the best. If that is the case the promo or event really isn't worth doing. Throwing inventory to the wind (no they do not get the pickups back) and hoping for the best is not a sound business decision or smart marketing. The bottomline is the question was asked and answered.

I'm not wrong you are. And this is the Internet, so what I said has to be true. And of it's not true its on the SDUGF, so it's still true.

But if you want to blow a blood vessel totally over thinking something that you just admitted you don't know about, have one on the house. It would be disrespectful toward me for you not to.


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[jon the art guy]

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SD pickups are good! I like the loud ones. Premier Guitar is a magazine, I understand.

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[El Supremo]

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That is where you are wrong neither of us know the level of participation that was involved. Social Media support, sponsorships, cross-site promotions - and as Derek said deciding on which pickup would represent SD. There is extra work involved it is not as simple as putting a pickup in a box and hoping for the best. If that is the case the promo or event really isn't worth doing. Throwing inventory to the wind (no they do not get the pickups back) and hoping for the best is not a sound business decision or smart marketing. The bottomline is the question was asked and answered.

That is if Duncan chooses to make it an extensive marketing campaign and the meeting about what pickup to sent was apparantly already held. Some people disagree with the decision and the reasons for it and that's all there's to it. You're getting overly hyped up over some people simply having an opinion on something. And it certainly is not about "how we think Duncan should be run". It's only about "we would have really liked to see a Duncan in this comparison, there's no reason for us why not to have one included".

 

[ItsaBass]

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I'm sorry, Derek. I meant every bit of the underlying content of what I said, but I shouldn't have said it so cynically and meanly. I do have a lot of respect for the company and anyone involved in it.

 

[Securb]

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If any of you think I am getting hyped over this you are way off base. I just think it is funny some of you people dont understand marketing 101. Like I said if you think you can do a better job send SD your resume. Hell, send it to me I might hire you for my company.

That is if Duncan chooses to make it an extensive marketing campaign and the meeting about what pickup to sent was apparantly already held.

Once again none of us know what the level of involvement or commitment was. They decided to pass, end of story. You seem to be the one stressed that SD made a business decision that frankly has nothing to do with you. How did SD not being in the shootout change your life?

 

[Myaccount876]

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I'm just imagining how this thread must look to outsiders of the forum. Poor form.

 

[DreX]

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Ever notice how you might have one guy named Bad Apple, and then ten people who call out Bad Apple, ten people who ultimately do more to derail the topic than Bad Apple had?

 

[Agileguy_101]

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Since when is it a crime to get off topic?

 

[DreX]

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You mean to go off topic to flog a single member of the forum?

 

[Agileguy_101]

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You mean to go off topic?

Yes.

 

[DreX]

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Well, there are no written laws concerning the matter, but nevertheless we've gone from talking about the conduct of Seymour Duncan, a well regarded pickup making company in business nearly forty years, to talking instead about the conduct of some anonymous internet hero.

 

[El Supremo]

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You seem to be the one stressed that SD made a business decision that frankly has nothing to do with you. How did SD not being in the shootout change your life?

As you might well understand, a comparison video like GP's might be really helpful and informative when making a purchase. So, it has something to do with me and all of us who buy pickups actually (unless you don't care for these articles obviously). I like to be as well informed as can be about how a product might meet my particular needs/tastes before making a purchase. Apart from helpful forum post, some extensive comparison videos on tubes, speakers, etc. have led me to me to make the right decision without trying numerous models, over an extensive period of time, paying extensive shipping costs.
So, if I'm feeling some dissapointment about being denied information in a format that has proven so helpful for me in other situations, and personally find that the reason and explanations given make no sense or conflict with one another, does that suddenly make me a wannabe CEO? It merely makes me a musician who craves straight up info (and lots of it) before spending his hard earned cash (and maybe a bit of a whiner).

It's not about the business side of things from Duncan's perspective. It's about a comparison video being as complete as possible. You do see the difference in intent I hope?

 

[Securb]

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As you might well understand, a comparison video like GP's might be really helpful and informative when making a purchase. So, it has something to do with me and all of us who buy pickups actually (unless you don't care for these articles obviously). I like to be as well informed as can be about how a product might meet my particular needs/tastes before making a purchase. Apart from helpful forum post, some extensive comparison videos on tubes, speakers, etc. have led me to me to make the right decision without trying numerous models, over an extensive period of time, paying extensive shipping costs.
So, if I'm feeling some dissapointment about being denied information in a format that has proven so helpful for me in other situations, and personally find that the reason and explanations given make no sense or conflict with one another, does that suddenly make me a wannabe CEO? It merely makes me a musician who craves straight up info (and lots of it) before spending his hard earned cash (and maybe a bit of a whiner).

It's not about the business side of things from Duncan's perspective. It's about a comparison video being as complete as possible. You do see the difference in intent I hope?

I do see the difference and I am not hostile or stressed. What a lot of the posters don't understand is it is impossible for SD to engage every opportunity that comes their way. They decided to pass on this one. I found some of the comments directed towards Derek and the company completely out of line and downright insulting. There is no conspiracy here, SD isn't trying to hide anything. The people that think all that was involved was dropping a pickup in a box know little about what goes into marketing a product. Marketing will get a budget and that will include advertising, staff, tradeshows and demo units among other things. In this case they decided not to spend that budget on this opportunity. Just because marketing and manufacturing are in the same building it doesn't mean marketing has unlimited pickups to ship out whenever they would like. Keep in mind also SD is in the middle of revamping their website. It is not as simple as changing a Wordpress theme, a lot goes into a site with ecommerce and dynamic content. I am sure the marketing folks at SD have their hands full already.

 

[El Supremo]

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I do see the difference and I am not hostile or stressed. What a lot of the posters don't understand is it is impossible for SD to engage every opportunity that comes their way. They decided to pass on this one. I found some of the comments directed towards Derek and the company completely out of line and downright insulting. There is no conspiracy here, SD isn't trying to hide anything. The people that think all that was involved was dropping a pickup in a box know little about what goes into marketing a product. Marketing will get a budget and that will include advertising, staff, tradeshows and demo units among other things. In this case they decided not to spend that budget on this opportunity. Just because marketing and manufacturing are in the same building it doesn't mean marketing has unlimited pickups to ship out whenever they would like. Keep in mind also SD is in the middle of revamping their website. It is not as simple as changing a Wordpress theme, a lot goes into a site with ecommerce and dynamic content. I am sure the marketing folks at SD have their hands full already.

Okay, then we understand each other.