Re-cone 2x G12-65s or Buy New WGS ET-65?

[fretburner]

I'm thinking about buying a re-cone kit for my already re-coned G12-65s because it rattles. The previous owner said that it was sort of a DIY job by a good tech, so I don't know what the tech used to re-cone it. The paper used, though having the right grooves/riffles, it's a LOT thicker than the original cone. While it's useable and sounds good, it does rattle.

Rather than try to get it to a tech and repair it, I'm thinking if I should just buy a couple of re-cone kits and bring it to a tech so I know it has the right parts and restore it to its "original" condition?

Or should I just buy 2x ET-65s ($70 each) from WGS?

The re-kits are going to be less expensive ($53 each kit), but I might end up with the same costs consider what I will pay the tech. However, I should end up with an "original" Rola Celestions.

On the other hand -- the WGS route will give me a chance to try their recommendation of ET-65 + Veteran 30 combo (which sounds like a good idea), and get them in 16ohm versions. The re-cone kit is only available in 8 ohms.

Comments and suggestions?

 

[Hellion]

Re: Re-cone 2x G12-65s or Buy New WGS ET-65?

I've only had one speaker reconed in my lifetime, mainly because it was a sweet sounding speaker. It cost me almost as much to recone it as it would have for me to just buy a new speaker. If you're asking my opinion, I'd say toss it and buy a new one.

 

[Luke Duke]

Re: Re-cone 2x G12-65s or Buy New WGS ET-65?

I had 4 old heavy mag celestions reconed by weber...and I'd do it again because they were oddball undesirable g12-80. Not a V30 and not a classic lead. Just a weird hybrid. I had ted do the 65 voicecoil with 2 speakers have 55Hz cones and 2 with 75Hz cones. The bass cones got the small dustcaps, the treble cones got dome style. Add it to a heavy mag and you've got a THICK speaker. Kinda wish I had some regular 65s to compare.

BTW if you decide to trash the speakers I'd be interested in the frame/mag structure if the shipping didn't murder me.

Luke

 

[fretburner]

Re: Re-cone 2x G12-65s or Buy New WGS ET-65?

I've only had one speaker reconed in my lifetime, mainly because it was a sweet sounding speaker. It cost me almost as much to recone it as it would have for me to just buy a new speaker. If you're asking my opinion, I'd say toss it and buy a new one.

I don't want to "toss" the speakers because they're early 80's "vintage" Rola Celestions.

I had 4 old heavy mag celestions reconed by weber...and I'd do it again because they were oddball undesirable g12-80. Not a V30 and not a classic lead. Just a weird hybrid. I had ted do the 65 voicecoil with 2 speakers have 55Hz cones and 2 with 75Hz cones. The bass cones got the small dustcaps, the treble cones got dome style. Add it to a heavy mag and you've got a THICK speaker. Kinda wish I had some regular 65s to compare.

BTW if you decide to trash the speakers I'd be interested in the frame/mag structure if the shipping didn't murder me.

Luke

If ever I decide to go WGS, I'd probably still keep the speakers and have it re-coned at some point in time. I do plan on having an all-mahogany 1x12 cab built for my JCM900 4501, and only 1 of the 2 speakers "rattle".

do you think the ET65 and V30 pair be a good idea? Or should I go 2x ET65s?

 

[Hellion]

Re: Re-cone 2x G12-65s or Buy New WGS ET-65?

I don't want to "toss" the speakers because they're early 80's "vintage" Rola Celestions.

Okay, then recone them. I've never heard a reconed Celestion that really sounded the same as it did prior to the blowout, but I understand the sentiment.

 

[sosomething]

Re: Re-cone 2x G12-65s or Buy New WGS ET-65?

On the other hand -- the WGS route will give me a chance to try their recommendation of ET-65 + Veteran 30 combo (which sounds like a good idea), and get them in 16ohm versions. The re-cone kit is only available in 8 ohms.

Comments and suggestions?

I can't comment on the recone bit, but I have that exact combo of speakers from your quote in a 6x12 cab (3 of each) and it sounds like planets colliding. In a good way.

 

[Agileguy_101]

Re: Re-cone 2x G12-65s or Buy New WGS ET-65?

6x12 cab

PICS

WE DEMAND PICS

 

[sosomething]

Re: Re-cone 2x G12-65s or Buy New WGS ET-65?

ah yes

let me see

 

[Agileguy_101]

Re: Re-cone 2x G12-65s or Buy New WGS ET-65?

holy jeebus crust

Funny, that 6x12 is probably only six inches taller than my vertical 2x12. Mine is 40" tall

 

[fretburner]

Re: Re-cone 2x G12-65s or Buy New WGS ET-65?

Okay, then recone them. I've never heard a reconed Celestion that really the same as it did prior to the blowout, but I understand the sentiment.

Bummer. Even if the kit comes from Marshall?

Although I do understand that you need a really skillful tech to recone it as the factory would.

I can't comment on the recone bit, but I have that exact combo of speakers from your quote in a 6x12 cab (3 of each) and it sounds like planets colliding. In a good way.

Cool stuff! But do you think I'd get the planets colliding thingy as well with only a 2x12?

 

[sosomething]

Re: Re-cone 2x G12-65s or Buy New WGS ET-65?

Cool stuff! But do you think I'd get the planets colliding thingy as well with only a 2x12?

It's a good speaker combination.

 

[SrDeMaFp]

Re: Re-cone 2x G12-65s or Buy New WGS ET-65?

ah yes

let me see

:eyecrazy: Nice, dude!